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Will ME4 feature the Milky Way Galaxy at all?


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#101
Chealec

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What's a few billion years to an immortal God like Shepard? Or beings like Reapers and Leviathan? Lol

For that matter. What are 4 billion years? You are speaking and thinking about this entirely from the aspect of a terrestrial Earth perspective. And within the constraints of time and life as defined by Earth years/months/weeks/days/minutes/seconds and etc. A galaxy that travels and organizes itself around faster than light physics, Mass Relays, Life in dark space, would exist around completely different references for space, time continuums. What would 4 billion years evn mean for an Asarian or Geth? Your response suggests that you are thinking about the looming Milky Way & Andromeda dustup purely from an Earthly human perspective, circa 1950-2015 timeframe. Certainly not from a Mass Effect viewpoint.

 

 

I'm not talking from an Earth perspective, that would be silly, the Earth is only 4.5 billion years old. The age of the entire universe is estimated to be less than 14 billion years... you're lacking a sense of perspective here I feel. 4 billion years is a really, really, really, really long time - 29% of the entire age of all the matter and energy itself released from the Big Bang.

 

What would 4 Billion years mean for an Asari? Well let's see - 50,000 years ago they were basically blue Greeks being uplifted by the Protheans so their culture was a little more advanced than that of humanity (they had maybe 45000 years on us)... multiply that level of regression (50,000 years) by 80,000 times. Given the fact that Thessia is only slightly further out than Earth from the galactic core it's reasonable to assume it's no more than perhaps a billion years older than Earth, so 4 billion years ago it would just be cooling down - the very first seas might just be beginning to form; the Asari would probably still be a good 3.999 Billion years away from even evolving into something recognisable as Asari.

 

Even with Mass Effect's slightly dodgy grasp on timescale, the first Reapers only came into being about 1 billion years ago.

 

Oh, and the game hints at Dark Energy destroying the star of Haestrom faster than expected - which sort of ties into the Big Rip theory in which Dark Energy eventually overwhelms all other forms of energy and rips every single atom apart destroying the entire Universe in one gigantic singularity event... the estimated timeframe for this? Only a mere 22 billion years in the future.

 

What are a few billion years? Only potentially the entire life of the Universe from the very beginning to the very end in a mere 36 billion years total... does that help put it into perspective?



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'Dark Energy eventually overwhelms all other forms of energy and rips every single atom apart destroying the entire Universe in one gigantic singularity event...'

 

I'd want front row seats for that! As long as I'm outside of the Universe, of course. :ph34r:


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Eaware is abandoning the original trilogy and all the toxic controversy with it.

 

Deal with it.

No they are not. Im sure whole andromera thing was already planned while they made me3. :wub: And luckily asari will be leading us again because it was their idea to put plans in motion to ensure continuity of their race and culture. :) 

 

I actually think that in next 3 mass effect(4-6), we are creating huge fleet in andromera and fly back to milky way to defeat reapers. B) That would even the letting harvest us ending could be canon.(dat stargazer looks like prothean so maybe some protheans escaped andromera too and we are seeing them in the ending) Or they might just follow us to the andromera and destroy us again. :P

 

It takes long time to harvest us in our galaxy so there is plenty of time to gather ships enough to destroy reapers. :)



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Considering the game is called Andromeda...

 

I'd say no.

 

If it does, however, then perhaps in 'flashbacks' from some of the crew members or maybe the protagonist, I suppose.



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No they are not. Im sure whole andromera thing was already planned while they made me3.

 

I'd be quite surprised if that was true since it was supposed to be a trilogy until they discovered money...



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Hanako Ikezawa

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I'd be quite surprised if that was true since it was supposed to be a trilogy until they discovered money...

It isn't true. During the development of ME3, Me3 was planned to be the last Mass Effect game. That's why the choices are as different and galaxy-shaping as they are since no need to worry due to there not being sequels. Planning for Mass Effect: Andromeda didn't start until around the time they were working on the Citadel DLC. 



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IMO they didn't take a definitive stance on an ending for a simple reason. Nothing ended in any of the choices. Every single ending is MW "Canon".


Nothing ended? So the Reapers are still around?

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Nothing ended? So the Reapers are still around?

In 2-3 of the 4 endings, yes. 



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@Chealec:

Sorry it took me awhile to respond to your comment above. Been pretty busy during this stretch. When I mentioned "Earth perspective", I meant it from more than just a time reference. Obviously those who played the game a certain way (Destroy & Refusal choices), and yearn for a Shepard, human continuum, with a Reaper defeat would view time just as you expressed it. But those who preferred Synthesis or Control choices see it and time very differently as the ME saga evolves. In those 2 outcomes, Shepard has essentially become a "Timeless" God like being. One with hegemony over the continued evolution of Synthetic, Spiritual and organic life. He blasted past the known time/space/force/dimensional restraints that bedeviled "Catalyst". To such a life force, Time as you expressed it would truly be irrelevant. I stand by what I said. Especially since ME resides 100% in the realm of imagination. No different for that matter than Herbert's excellent novels on "Dune". Which explored completely different dimensions of time based upon an emerging theoretical thought process in Physics that is only now considering his premise. Meaning, "Speed of Thought" as the ultimate threshold for speed. The theoretical "Spice" in those novels enabled certain beings to fold space and warp time itself to travel vast interstellar distances in an instance based on focused thought. Even the Bible suggests that time has completely different values to different entities. "A day for God is as 1000 years with man". By that standard, an Asarian life cycle would be 1 day old in God time. But who said they even measured time and life like earthlings? Blue goo indeed.

 

In the end it doesn't matter. Because Bioware flipped everything on its rear with those endings. By turning Shepard into a God, whereby a few billion years forward, sideways, or backwards would literally mean nothing. It would just be a thought with God Shep. Unless one selected the human solution whereby Shepard died. And life in the entire Galaxy got stuck and recycled into the same frustrating endless loop again. Just like an old obsolete audio tape cartridge.

 

I look forward to the ME Andromeda challenge. Just because it broke away from the stifling end games that occurred in ME-MW Trilogy. Andromeda is a much bigger Galaxy, with potentially much bigger threats than Reapers. MW life better hope God Shep is up to the challenge with his stewardship of MW life in the distant future. Because Andromeda is coming. And its bringing whatever threats we are presented with in the new saga. And perhaps its coming at "the speed of thought" from Shepard's pov.