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#176
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Youre right they did not intend to make a 'good' ending, its the starchild that tells you synthesis is better but he may have his own selfpreservation motives . But all ending are pretty much a faith leap. 

 

Synthesis requires faith to believe its needed/possible on the spot. Specially since its the Reapers telling you to do it. The only unsolvable organic/synthetic conflict in eons we know of is their own and they did not do much to appear trustworthy. You also gotta believe/fear the inevitably of the Total War. 

 

Destroy needs you to have faith that conflicts can be solved in the future. I think the epilogue was too nice with the idea we would all just cooperate after the war. Most likely there will always be the need for ppl like Shepard to move things along. Good thing Shepard survived.

 

Control needs you to have faith Shepard wont turn on the galaxy after 50 000 years of trying to sort things out. Hopefully your Shepard was more patient than mine.

 

I don't know if we can talk about self preservation : the catalyst make Shepard reach him and he gives the destroy solution. He expose the synthesis solution as the best solution for him, but he doesn't tell anything about what Shepard should do.

The "faith" word is from the developers. Sure, the other need some kind of faith but this one (synthesis) was presented with a bigger reference to "Jesus" and the religion. That's why they talked about faith for this one, I think.

We can see the ending in a different way : destroy could be more about hope than faith, because it's about a new beginning. Synthesis could be more about faith than hope because it's the end of evolution, some kind of paradise lost that we finally reach.


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#177
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The ending wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad if it wasn't for 'starchild'. If it was a VI interface like Vigil, or even if it took the form of the crew member left on Virmire, I wouldn't have cared about the plot holes. The voice is so irritating it ruins the experience and makes me feel annoyed. If there was no random kid, especially in those dreams, I would have had hardly any problem with the game.

 

Plus, there should have been one Destroy ending, but a Paragon and a Renegade version of some  sorts. I also think the Reapers should have been organics who used the ships to conquer the galaxy, who were manipulated and indoctrinated by super intelligent AI, until they became part of the ship itself.



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I didn't have any issues with the Starchild.

 

I just stood there, listened to what he had to say, then proceeded to destroy the Reapers.

 

The Starchild wants to preserve the Reapers (keep them alive) and their plans, while Shepard wants to destroy them. It's a conflict of interest.

 

He's just a Reaper with a little kid's mask on him. You take the mask off, and you've been talking to the Reapers the whole time. The Extended Cut clarifies that it is a Reaper disguised as a little kid.



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SO BE IT



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The ending wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad if it wasn't for 'starchild'. If it was a VI interface like Vigil, or even if it took the form of the crew member left on Virmire, I wouldn't have cared about the plot holes. The voice is so irritating it ruins the experience and makes me feel annoyed. If there was no random kid, especially in those dreams, I would have had hardly any problem with the game.

 

Plus, there should have been one Destroy ending, but a Paragon and a Renegade version of some  sorts. I also think the Reapers should have been organics who used the ships to conquer the galaxy, who were manipulated and indoctrinated by super intelligent AI, until they became part of the ship itself.

The endings still would have sucked even without the Starchild.  The brat is merely a symptom of a greater ill.  It's more a focus than anything else



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The endings still would have sucked even without Starchild.

I know. I think it would have been less sucky, though.



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I know. I think it would have been less sucky, though.

I don't think so.  Like I said, the problem isn't the Starchild as such.  He's just a focus for the rage because he's the infodump.