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Nope. I am more attached to Stroud than I am to Hawke.

 

Edit: I should say I don't actively dislike her, I just don't find her as interesting to play as the Warden and the Inquisitor.



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NO!
 
Don't even think it.
 
Among other things, all the revelations of elven history and lore (which makes up the entire second half of the game and most of 2/3 story-based DLC) would NEVER have meant HALF as much to a required human noble. The story for a Dalish Inquisitor going through Inquisition and Trespasser (particularly a female elf who romances Solas) is far superior than anything than Hawke could deliver as far as I'm concerned.
 
Heck, race selection in general trumps anything Hawke could possibly offer as far as I'm concerned. Qunari Inquisitor? That alone is better than Hawke. No comparison.


So... are you saying that all of the players, and their characters, that played something other than the elf PC didn't really care about any of the elven lore revelations in DAI? You know that's almost everyone, right?

Hell, for all you know someone could have role played their Hawke as a total bookworm nerd who got seriously into elven lore and culture because of their friendship or romance with Merrill. The background of a restricted race doesn't have to be so limiting if the player doesn't allow it to be.

You may have felt that the elf stuff had more meaning while playing an elf, but I'm sure that's not the case for everyone.


Every time I played the Temple of Mythal, I think to myself "Morrigan is usurping Merril's role!" Since Gaider confirmed that that quest was initially going to be in Exalted Marches, I think the idea was to have Merril in this role. I don't mind Morrigan, but the meta knowledge that Merril would make more sense is frustrating.


This is why the devs typically keep mum about this kind of stuff.
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Probably.

Cassandra and Leliana were after Hawke .Cassandra and Hawke would have been hilarious , in some case she's fangirling about him/her .

Besides there could have been great tension between Hawke , Cass , Leliana and Cullen , they were all aware of the situation in Kirkwall and they all fail at their jobs.

 

Hawke released Corypheus and brought back red lyrium to the surface , both are threatening the world in DAI .

 

Hawke was there when the spark of war began between mages and templars.

 

Hawke met and was saved by Flemeth .

 

Hawke dealt with Eluvian via Merrill .

 

Hawke knew Samson , in some case he can help him out.

 

Etc, etc...we could have played a character who had a bit more reflection about things around him beyond the whole Herald of Andraste business.

 

I won't cry about it though , I enjoyed playing an elven Inquisitor a great deal.


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Those who keep saying no... For real, why? For those of you saying Hawke can't lead an army... Why is the Inquisitor such a better option? With Hawke, the story was personal. We played as this person and experienced the beginning of the crap storm that is in Inquisition. Can't argue that he has a place in this universe whereas our Inquisitor just feels like a copy and paste form of a character with a 4 sentence backstory.
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Those who keep saying no... For real, why? For those of you saying Hawke can't lead an army... Why is the Inquisitor such a better option? With Hawke, the story was personal. We played as this person and experienced the beginning of the crap storm that is in Inquisition. Can't argue that he has a place in this universe whereas our Inquisitor just feels like a copy and paste form of a character with a 4 sentence backstory.

 

Because Hawke doesn't want the responsibility of leading an army, or city, or organization. That is kind of extremely evident in DA2. They are a broken mess by the time of DAI anyways.

 

Hawke's only real accomplishment was (possibly) killing the Arishock in single combat, the rest is either personal success or crap Varric made up. 


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But all that being said... That's still much more of an accomplishment than the Inquisitor just so happening to stumble upon a magical artifact and somehow living, etc.

By your logic, Loghain would make a terrible Grey Warden because he originally hated them. Alistair would be a terrible King, because he didn't yearn to rule. Depending on our choices, these two can be great Wardens or Kings. Just as I believe Hawke could have been a great Herald.

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Except Hawke already had her day in the sun, in DA2.


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Except Hawke already had her day in the sun, in DA2.

 

This is pretty much how I feel about it. I did over a dozen full plays of DA2. I had male Hawkes, female Hawkes, all three classes, and I enjoyed it immensely. If they had the Exalted March expansion as it was originally planned to be written around Hawke I would have liked that too (er... well probably, anyway). But for me Hawke was done. I would have preferred that they not be in DAI at all. I feel the same about my Warden.

 

And you know... I REALLY like my Inquisitor. In fact, he is my favorite character out of all the DAI games. If we had Hawke then I wouldn't have gotten to create him, because who he is is very much based around his background and Hawke wouldn't have had that.

 

Plus there's the whole romance angle. An expansion like DAA where the romance doesn't carry over is one thing, but a completely new game would have been quite a bummer. MANY players would have been disappointed if their Hawke's LI was not in the game, regardless of who it was.

 

And you know, some people just don't want Hawke. There doesn't have to be an actual reason why.



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I think Hawke had too much baggage to make them a good protagonist for DAI. I'd have wanted to see all five of the love interests, just for starters, and their sibling if alive, and if everyone else is visiting then Aveline might as well drop in too. That doesn't leave much room for other returning characters.
 
I strongly prefer getting a new character for each installment. I'd rather have someone different save the country/city/world each time, and I love having race selection back.


Thiiiisss.

And narratively speaking, I HATE the idea of Hawke as the Inquisitor. Hawke is the every(wo)man, the failure hero, the only protagonist in this franchise who isn't The Chosen One... they're just a person mired in horrible crap trying to protect their family and friends and survive shitty Kirkwall. And that's why I love them.

Hawke being the Herald of Andraste is just... no. So much no.

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I'm not a huge fan of Hawke, but I'm even less of a fan of the Inquisitor.

That being said, I think having Hawke as the main character would be a mistake.  An advisor would probably be a better role for him as he's had first hand experience with some mage/templar conflict.

If the Inquisitor's rise to power and ability to actually act like a leader were improved, I'd like the Inquisitor more than Hawke I think.



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Thiiiisss.
And narratively speaking, I HATE the idea of Hawke as the Inquisitor. Hawke is the every(wo)man, the failure hero, the only protagonist in this franchise who isn't The Chosen One... they're just a person mired in horrible crap trying to protect their family and friends and survive shitty Kirkwall. And that's why I love them.
Hawke being the Herald of Andraste is just... no. So much no.

Actually I'm playing with this. And as much fun as it is, you have a very good point, and I'm glad they didn't use Hawke.

There are some very interest changes that would have been made, however which woukd have been neat.

Adamant is the biggest. It would require a little bit of futzing with the party, but it's not unknown to take a mandatory companion. So you end up having to choose between Stroud and someone else who feels keenly responsible for Cory.

Would make for lots of drama.

Honestly though, this kind of thing works better as a fic, not in the actual context of DAI. As much fun as playing with the what if as I'm having, a clean slate is better since I don't think Hawke's horror and resultant insanity could be caught in a game format, even with GRR Martin writing it :)