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Jesse the dragon slayer

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Yeah so Coryphespit can go into tainted creatures and the taint originates from the golden/black city so this has been bugging me why did the inquisitor kill him off like that he could be alive or dead is he dead or not it was a dumb move by the inquisitor and it bugged me that we couldn't kill him in another way are we gonna deal with him later?



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While I suppose it is possible for Corypheus to have survived, I'm going to assume no.

The Inquisitor opened a fade rift inside of his body. That would tear him apart. And given that Corypheus no longer had the power to body transfer, we can assume that killed him.

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And given that Corypheus no longer had the power to body transfer, we can assume that killed him.

Didn't he? All it said was that Corypheus's power was disrupted which is why Morrigan or the dragon depending on who drank from the well fought the red lyrium dragon at the same time you fought Corypheus I hope that he stays dead; hate killing the same villain and/or hero over and over I suppose if his power had reactivated we would of had to kill him over and over if the Inquisitor handled it differently, still bugs me not knowing.



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World ofThedas 2 suggests that there's still a conscious entity wandering the Fade that was Corypheus.  He has no power, and he can't reach the golden city, but the remnant there is likely still intelligent and could help another big bad if it chose, with information if nothing else.


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World ofThedas 2 suggests that there's still a conscious entity wandering the Fade that was Corypheus.  He has no power, and he can't reach the golden city, but the remnant there is likely still intelligent and could help another big bad if it chose, with information if nothing else.

Thanks good to know they addressed it



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Thanks good to know they addressed it

 

Reading it again and not quoting it from memroy, he seems even deader than I remember: "He is dead, or what passes for dead when a physical being is consumed by the Fade."  Without his anchor, his body dissolved, though it does seem implied his powerless consciousness survived.



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Reading it again and not quoting it from memroy, he seems even deader than I remember: "He is dead, or what passes for dead when a physical being is consumed by the Fade."  Without his anchor, his body dissolved, though it does seem implied his powerless consciousness survived.

Well, if Corypheus was more spirit than physical being (big if) it could be something similar to how Solas explains Wisdom's death. The Corypheus we squished is super gone but some fragment could be reborn in future. All kindsa ifs though.


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World ofThedas 2 suggests that there's still a conscious entity wandering the Fade that was Corypheus. He has no power, and he can't reach the golden city, but the remnant there is likely still intelligent and could help another big bad if it chose, with information if nothing else.

No, World of Thedas Vol. 2 makes it pretty clear Corypheus is gone. He is deader than dead.

From the book:

"Since the Breach, countless rifts have been examined, and the Fade searched by armies of mages in their dreams. All confirm that in his profound absence, Corypheus is no longer a threat. He is dead, or what passes for dead when a physical being is consumed by the Fade."

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WoT v2 says that, yeah, but everything in there can be taken in the same unreliable narrator pov that codex entries can. I don't doubt everyone believes he's dead. But believing it and it being true are two different things.

 

I doubt he'll ever appear in the game series again (except in maybe some kind of flashback scenario to the invasion of the Golden City or something), but the door is open for it if the writers want to go there one day, imo.


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Well, if Corypheus was more spirit than physical being (big if) it could be something similar to how Solas explains Wisdom's death. The Corypheus we squished is super gone but some fragment could be reborn in future. All kindsa ifs though.

 

If we're going by how Solas explained spirits (which I enjoy the lore there it's just complicated) everyone will have a spirit copy if the wisp of their emotions manages to last at least that's how I understand it.

 

No, World of Thedas Vol. 2 makes it pretty clear Corypheus is gone. He is deader than dead.

From the book:

"Since the Breach, countless rifts have been examined, and the Fade searched by armies of mages in their dreams. All confirm that in his profound absence, Corypheus is no longer a threat. He is dead, or what passes for dead when a physical being is consumed by the Fade."

 

Well the fades never fully explored and if Corypheus used his power to body jump he'd possess something in the golden city

 

WoT v2 says that, yeah, but everything in there can be taken in the same unreliable narrator pov that codex entries can. I don't doubt everyone believes he's dead. But believing it and it being true are two different things.

 

I doubt he'll ever appear in the game series again (except in maybe some kind of flashback scenario to the invasion of the Golden City or something), but the door is open for it if the writers want to go there one day, imo.

 

Flashback scenario sounds cool but if they do that they'll have to crush chantry lore more or confirm chantry lore a bit



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Well the fades never fully explored and if Corypheus used his power to body jump he'd possess something in the golden city

 

No. Killing his dragon disrupted his body surfing ability. This is implicitly stated in the game. And he didn't go into the Fade — the Fade ate him.

 

Corypheus is no more. He has ceased to be. He's expired. He's bereft of life. He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off this mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible. THIS IS AN EX-DARKSPAWN!


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People can't survive in the physical Fade without the Anchor.

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People can't survive in the physical Fade without the Anchor.


I wish this were a little better referenced in HLtA. If it's the Anchor keeping everyone safe, there should have been some mention of its influence extending a few yards, maybe Hawke shouting in combat not to stray too far from the IQ's side.

Is there a definitive source that says physically being in the Fade is harmful? I thought it was more that it's near impossible to reach the Fade physically, not that once a body arrived it would degrade quickly.

Before the Veil, all mortals would have been "in" the Fade so it can't be inherently toxic. Unless its power was diluted through the material world, and once it's cut off by the Veil, it's concentrated and builds to lethal levels.

This is irrelevant to Cory, as his body was split apart by the rift, not sucked into it.
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No. Killing his dragon disrupted his body surfing ability. This is implicitly stated in the game. And he didn't go into the Fade — the Fade ate him.

 

Corypheus is no more. He has ceased to be. He's expired. He's bereft of life. He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off this mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible. THIS IS AN EX-DARKSPAWN!

Disruption is temporary my first thought was that he was dead but around my third playthrough I noticed no matter what I did Corypheus was killed like that heck my third time I told my party to disengage from the red lyrium dragon and literally looked everywhere for Morrigan to revive and actually kill Corypheus in the proper place which is what has me seeing it as a likely possibility that he still lives.

I'm not convinced though because as with everything in the fade everything is complicated then throw Corypheus's level of complexity and anythings possible since it's not flat out answered.

 

I wish this were a little better referenced in HLtA. If it's the Anchor keeping everyone safe, there should have been some mention of its influence extending a few yards, maybe Hawke shouting in combat not to stray too far from the IQ's side.

Is there a definitive source that says physically being in the Fade is harmful? I thought it was more that it's near impossible to reach the Fade physically, not that once a body arrived it would degrade quickly.

Before the Veil, all mortals would have been "in" the Fade so it can't be inherently toxic. Unless its power was diluted through the material world, and once it's cut off by the Veil, it's concentrated and builds to lethal levels.

This is irrelevant to Cory, as his body was split apart by the rift, not sucked into it.

My understanding of the anchor was similar to this but I thought Corypheus was sucked into the fade practically through a paper shredder but still sucked through.



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Corypheus is no more. He has ceased to be. He's expired. He's bereft of life. He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off this mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible. THIS IS AN EX-DARKSPAWN!

 

So the Conductor of the Choir of Silence (Corypheus's title in World of Thedas 2) has joined the choir invisible, too?  Now he just needs to join the choirs unsmelt, untasted, and unfelt, and he's got the full set.

 

(Not meaning the beat a dead parrot with this senseless humour...)



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My understanding of the anchor was similar to this but I thought Corypheus was sucked into the fade practically through a paper shredder but still sucked through.

 

Well, yes, to my understanding. He was sucked through, but was destroyed in the process. It's not that his paper shredded pieces land in the Fade and he's somehow still alive. Whatever pieces come through will already be dead by that point.