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[Qun00]

Some say that defeating the Arishok as a warrior is difficult because you're facing him directly.

However, that's not the real problem. The problem is that you simply deal very little damage and it takes so long to deplete the Arishok's health bar that you inevitably will fall before he does.

My Hawke is a lvl 16 two-handed warrior with 4~5 stars equipment and acessories increasing strength and defense. His spec is Berserker.

Even so, I was forced to set difficulty to casual.

[Duelist]

Liberal use of Second Wind, Cleave and Pommel Strike helped me although Warrior Hawke vs the Arishok remains the only fight in the series I've yet to play on anything higher than Normal.

This fight is so much easier as a Rogue, even on Nightmare.

[straykat]

I haven't played Hawke warrior in a long time (so take this with a grain of salt), but I went with Berserker (like you) and Reaver. It's mostly just strong basic attacks (with Vanguard as well). I don't use much stam this way. You have to run and kite a bit, just like other classes though. And be liberal with the potions.

 

I'd agree other classes have it easy. It's cheap on my rogue. Arishok looks like a fool up against a Shadow.

[themikefest]

Its been awhile since I played as a warrior. I don't recall having too much of a problem fighting the arishok

[Vegeta 77]

Using the Dog in the fight can be useful to have the Arishok target him and take pressure of you.

 

Get in close when you can use your warrior moves Cleave and Pommel Strike when you can then run until you can use them again.

[Qun00]

Do the other classes deal more damage or are you in for a long fight regardless?

[straykat]

Do the other classes deal more damage or are you in for a long fight regardless?

 

Not particularly long. Cold spells and Force mage/gravitic ring keeps him at bay well.. and you can unload even more spells on him this way.

 

Shadow just puts a dummy in place and he ends up looking like an idiot. As a rogue, he's at your mercy.

[Duelist]

Do the other classes deal more damage or are you in for a long fight regardless?

Rogue Hawke deals a lot more damage than his/her warrior counterpart.
The Duelist/Shadow combination worked best for me.

[themikefest]

I killed the guy very quickly when playing as a mage.

[caradoc2000]

Also, if you are running out of stamina as a warrior, remember that bolster has no cooldown making it highly spammable.

[Gimme H]

yeah i was attempting it on nightmare yesterday but i wasn't specced right, he was immune to everything i had plus i had no knockdown resistance. plus dog just wasn't hitting him enough or doing enough damage to get his attention even once, beating him would have meant a painstaking hour of sidestepping his attacks.

 

the thing that makes it really frustrating is his defense being so high, so even when he's ran himself headfirst into the wall, and seems helpless, most of your strikes do nothing nomatter what.

 

i'm assuming the 100% knockdown resist from the Defender tree keeps you on your feet if he hits you?

[renfrees]

First of all, you're kinda low level for this stage of the game. Secondly, you won't win head-on fight with the Arishok as any class, unless you're playing on Casual. Put skill points in Bolster and Cleave, use Cleave, Scythe and Mighty Blow in quick succession, then kite till cooldowns are up, regaining your mana with Bolster in the meantime. It'll be the longest fight of all classes, but that's how I beat him on Nightmare as a warrior. And yeah, Berserk spec is utterly useless for this engagement on anything higher than Casual. Respec if you have Black Emporium.

[sjsharp2011]

Using the Dog in the fight can be useful to have the Arishok target him and take pressure of you.

 

Get in close when you can use your warrior moves Cleave and Pommel Strike when you can then run until you can use them again.

 

 

yeah that's what I tend dto do set my dog on him that often gets his attention then you can catch him by surprise and nail him that way. You'er in for a long fight anyway as it is always pretty hard no matter what you do. Fighting him 1 on 1 though is a lot easier than taking all the Qunari on anyway.

[Qun00]

Is the sword + shield warrior any better?

Maybe the only advantage to 2H is that you hit more enemies at once, while 1H deals more damage as it focuses more on taking down enemies individually.

[renfrees]

Nope, S&S warrior will never deal comparable damage simply by the fact that 2H weapons have greater base damage and DPS. It's suited for tanking but you won't be able to tank Arishok.

[straykat]

Is the sword + shield warrior any better?

Maybe the only advantage to 2H is that you hit more enemies at once, while 1H deals more damage as it focuses more on taking down enemies individually.

 

What renfrees said.

 

However, it's still fun (in general). I think 1h was already an improvement before DAI. Except you already have a badass with Aveline and she's fine on tactics.

[KaiserShep]

I never got past the prologue as a warrior. When I got to the Arishok fight as a rogue or a mage, I thought to myself how I'd never want to do this as a warrior. 

[Jaison1986]

There is a fail proof strategy for every class regarding the Arishok duel: Combustion grenades. You can buy them at the black emporium, the smuggler guy at the hanged man if you did Isabela quest in his favor, or craft it yourself if you have the right materials.

 

They have a 100% stun chance for 15 seconds or so. Enough to spam your best abilities. Here is what you can do with a warrior: Hit the Arishok with a combustion grenade. Activate might from the vanguard tree for a 10% extra damage, then use both assail and cleave for more 85% extra damage. Then use all your skills from the two handed tree on the Arishok (use a stamina potion if you need to). That should do some mean damage to him. Then run around waiting for the combustion grenade to cool down. You might want to keep 4 or 5 of them in your inventory, since the Arishok might ocasionally use health potion, wich makes the fight go longer.

[Cecylio19]

It is too hard. Rogue or Mage - much easier. I did it last time I played, Maker it was nearly impossible. Especially his knockdown/knockback combos. Annoying! But I had to do this solo, for Isabela

[GoldenGail3]

Liberal use of Second Wind, Cleave and Pommel Strike helped me although Warrior Hawke vs the Arishok remains the only fight in the series I've yet to play on anything higher than Normal.
This fight is so much easier as a Rogue, even on Nightmare.

I don't know.... Beating the Arshock as a Mage is pretty epic, if you ask me.

[Dovakiin_N7]

Nope, S&S warrior will never deal comparable damage simply by the fact that 2H weapons have greater base damage and DPS. It's suited for tanking but you won't be able to tank Arishok.

 

Not true at all. I beat him on nightmare without dying and without any real troubl. Took a little longer than Rouge but I never felt any real threat many times a faced him head on. My warrior would shrug off his high damage dealing attacks that would quickly kill a mage and a rouge or seriously injure 2H warrior. I would Stun him back and heal back with Devour. I was berserker /reaver.  I did not even need bombs.

Your problem may be you are too low level. i was level 19-20.

[Beregond5]

I don't know.... Beating the Arshock as a Mage is pretty epic, if you ask me.

Well... not *every* time...XD

 

[KCMeredith]

He reminds me of one of those Dark Soul bosses who look really difficult to beat but are super easy once you got his pattern right. On my second playthrough I already knew when to jump in for a few hits and when to keep running around in circles

[Scuttlebutt101]

Beating the Arishok as a warrior wasn't really hard to me, but it just took forever. I was a 2H Reaver and relied on Fervor a lot, so without the mobs to speed me up I was slow as hell. The basic formula of this fight as a warrior is fairly simple though - hit him until his attack animation starts, move 90 degrees to the side, resume. Use talents when you can (you probably have time for exactly one between his attacks), autoattack when on cooldown. 

 

The fight was a lot more fun with archer rogue, but my SH/creation/force mage mopped the floor with him in about 3 minutes, somehow.

[GoldenGail3]

Well... not *every* time...XD
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=qLPSV0fb9vQ

lol, that's what I did as Mage Hawke. Was that I went around in Circles as he tried to bash me, he failed and ended up going into a corner himself when he did his running dashing thing. It was fun to do for hours.