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ROBOTICSUPERMAN

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Which is more op?
An aiu with reegar and incendiary
http://kalence.drupa...34E57364!EF.ADO

Or an asari huntress with warp and reegar?
http://kalence.drupa...34E57364!E.0EDK

Or other?

Since warp delivers ~33% of its damage(clarification please) upfront, about 800 damage is added straight on to the incendiary glitch, and the reegar is adding 264 per shot to that, you will finish doing approximately 6600 per burn tick.

Where the aiu has no warp bonus so is it as effective?

Obviously the incendiary glitch is not as straight forward as my math, as there is no reliable way to calculate it(as far as I know) but do you think that the aiu or GI can out glitch it and do a more powerful dot?

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for me:

Geth Infiltrator with Piranha and AP

(and it is independent from the frame rate)


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Nothing can outdps a power with incendiary dots glitched with IA without using a power with incendiary dots glitched with IA. It's that simple.

 

It's not even close really, we're talking about an order of magnitude of difference here.


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Nothing can outdps a power with incendiary dots glitched with IA without using a power with incendiary dots glitched with IA. It's that simple.

It's not even close really, we're talking about an order of magnitude of difference here.

Hail the words of the italian stallion on the glitched power of a reegar on incendiary steriods. Cheese it and enjoy it!

(Since the AIU is somehow sync glitched , plus cryo glitched: the AIU is potentially the only triple glitched character when running with a incendiary reegar.)
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for me:

Geth Infiltrator with Piranha and AP

(and it is independent from the frame rate)

 

 

I've heard others mention this too. I can understand the GI, but what is it about the Piranha that makes it OP? 



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I've heard others mention this too. I can understand the GI, but what is it about the Piranha that makes it OP? 

Platinum speed run capabilities even for scrubs like me.



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I've heard others mention this too. I can understand the GI, but what is it about the Piranha that makes it OP? 

 

The Piranha is a very powerful gun with a good sized magazine and good fire rate, which makes it good at taking out multiple mook enemies without reloading, and also good at doing a ton of damage to a boss enemy in a very short period of time.  This is normally offset by the fact that it has a very large spread and isn't effective at any sort of range.  The GI has Hunter Mode, which increases the accuracy of the Piranha ("accuracy" for a shotgun determines how big the spread is), so it takes away the Piranha's one weakness.

 

Give it a try.  Cloak, fire a Proxy Mine at whatever you want to kill, and then shoot until it's dead, repeating as necessary.


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Sir Woodchuck

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But then again, how about Valkyrie with warp, incendiary ammo, reegar AND annihilation field 15% dmg bonus?

 

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Well, the Asari Huntress can actually be killed...


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Piranha better than Wraith. Claymoooar better than both.

I better go....

Run Gecko... run!!
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ROBOTICSUPERMAN

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But then again, how about Valkyrie with warp, incendiary ammo, reegar AND annihilation field 15% dmg bonus?

[color=rgb(187,187,187)][font=Roboto][size=2]https://youtu.be/yaWSsuTRduQ[/size[/font[/color] © Feneckus

cool. But I'm guessing cloak bonuses out weigh annihilation fields 15%
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cool. But I'm guessing cloak bonuses out weigh annihilation fields 15%


Not at all. Not even close.

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But then again, how about Valkyrie with warp, incendiary ammo, reegar AND annihilation field 15% dmg bonus?

 

© Feneckus

 

Banshee #2 was down to one ticking armor bar by the time the missile hit.  I lol'd


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^^^^^ I wish the reegar was like that on Xbox.


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Deerber

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Banshee #2 was down to one ticking armor bar by the time the missile hit.  I lol'd

Classic pug behaviour XD


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Not at all. Not even close.

got any maths to show why? Or is it just space magic? Cos I'm unsure how it could beat cloaks damage bonuses. :S
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Who gives a frack? Reegar is trash.


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ROBOTICSUPERMAN

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Deerber, is it because the 15% is multiplicative rather than the tactical cloaks aditive(?) bonus.

Does it increase the incendiary dot by 15% per tick that it's in range?

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I have no clue about the math, but I imagine it that way:

 

The tac. cloak bonus only applies for the impact and DOT of warp. There is no additional weapon damage bonus IIRC.

Annihilation field gives the buff of 15% for all damage dealt. It buffs the glitch itself.

 

But maybe I told you complete nonsense...



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Deerber, is it because the 15% is multiplicative rather than the tactical cloaks aditive(?) bonus.

Does it increase the incendiary dot by 15% per tick that it's in range?

I believe that it increases the overall damage taken by 15%

In my opinion the cloak bonus on warp has monstruous effects, with my claymore I need 4 shots to kill a pretorian on platinum and one (if aimed both at the head and at the weak point on the shoulder) to kill a scion.

Maybe the valkyrie can do the same but I doubt it.



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Deerber, is it because the 15% is multiplicative rather than the tactical cloaks aditive(?) bonus.

Does it increase the incendiary dot by 15% per tick that it's in range?


More or less, yeah. The point is that the glitched incendiary dot is pretty much independent of any weapon/power bonus you've got. Debuffs, on the other hand, affect it normally. That's why a 15% debuff is much more important than the TC bonus.

Sorry, I really don't feel like looking for a source right now, but it's been mentioned by Peddro more than once over the years.

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More or less, yeah. The point is that the glitched incendiary dot is pretty much independent of any weapon/power bonus you've got. Debuffs, on the other hand, affect it normally. That's why a 15% debuff is much more important than the TC bonus.

Sorry, I really don't feel like looking for a source right now, but it's been mentioned by Peddro more than once over the years.

Well the bug does depend on warp's base damage, am I right ?

I'm 100% sure it does (way) more damage on a huntress than on a human sentinel for instance



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   Methinks that field is more op, because for cloak buff I must push a button before I hit stuff, it's so much more difficult than just "press LMB to reegar". So good for scrubs like me!

   Also, cooldowns on cloak. And field gives you free shields!


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