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So, considering his father would risk turning Dorian into a drooling zombie to change his orientation all for the sake of keeping his bloodline alive, I had to ask:

 

-Why, in a world where people can rain fire from the sky, turn into animals and teleport across dimensions, can't two people of the same gender conceive a child?



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Apparently they can, since (now) Arl Eamon has two dads:blink: 


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Apparently they can, since (now) Arl Eamon has two dads:blink:

 

PLOT HOLE INTENSIFIES!!! 0_o



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I would love to know why the devs forgot they gave Eamon, Teagan, and Rowan a named mother and extended family. When they slipped up in Inquisition and messed up their father's name... why couldn't they have said Connor was Rendorn's middle name? Or first name? I have nothing against same-sex couples (and I'd love for Dorian/Bull and Sera/Dagna to get kids!) but the Guerrin family was already known.



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So, considering his father would risk turning Dorian into a drooling zombie to change his orientation all for the sake of keeping his bloodline alive, I had to ask:

 

-Why, in a world where people can rain fire from the sky, turn into animals and teleport across dimensions, can't two people of the same gender conceive a child?

 

Probably because it would be decried as "EVIL BLOOD MAGIC!" And we all know the Chantry would never let such a thing happen.



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There are loads of odd gaps in magical ability.  It's hard not to get the impression sometimes that life in the circle has stunted magical research - hence why circle mages are all shocked at Morrigan's shapechanging abilities.  The circle does not teach that for reasons that should be obvious, and there's probably a lot of other things they keep secret.

 

What's odder to me is the gaps in northern mages' and Morrigan's abilities.  Morrigan can become a cat, a wolf, a crow, and - circumstances depending - a spider, a swarm of locusts, and a dragon. She cannot, however, look like another human and her reasons are vague.  Something along the lines of her "already being a human."

 

What's more, shapeshifting to other human forms - while something that demons readily do - is impossible even for those Tevinter magisters.  For instance, Mae Tilani is a trans magister for whom no magical sex-reassignment surgery exists.  When you ask the series one other trans character, Krem, about magical SRS he says "He wouldn't let any magic like that near his body."  

 

The reason this is relevant is that it seems transmuting the body is incredibly dangerous for some unexplained reason.  To produce and gestate a child, someone would have to carry it, and that would mean some kind of physical transmutation.  

 

It's interesting that Thedas seems to lack so many of the basic forms of magic that are ordinary in other fantasy worlds.  Time magic's limitations are featured heavily in DAI.  There's no flying spell, no invisibility spell.  Healing is rare.  There is no teleportation, except slightly-bending-the-rule stuff like Fade Step, Stone's Throw, and Eluvians.  It's like they deliberately set out to avoid the usual spells you find in other fantasy universes.



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Although now that I think about it, there might be a workaround in an old Welsh myth.

 

Far shapechanging (other species) is fine in the DA universe, but close shapechanging (the same species, minor alterations) is dangerous.

 

In an old Welsh myth, two men were punished for a crime by being made to shapeshift into three different animal forms for three years - one year they were pigs, one year they were deer, etc.  One was male, one female in their animal forms, and they produced offspring in those forms.  When they changed back, their offspring changed back as well - and became strong and healthy men because they had had two dads.

 

(This is from the Mabinogion.)

 

I have no idea if this would work in the DAverse.  I don't think we know enough about shapechanging there.



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So, considering his father would risk turning Dorian into a drooling zombie to change his orientation all for the sake of keeping his bloodline alive, I had to ask:

 

-Why, in a world where people can rain fire from the sky, turn into animals and teleport across dimensions, can't two people of the same gender conceive a child?

 

Because nobody knows how.  I mean isn't that kind of like asking why if we can put a man on the moon, we can't cure the common cold?  Combining the genetic material of two women (much less men) to produce a child with aspects of both would require knowledge that they simply haven't discovered yet.  Morrigan's method of shapeshifting won't allow her to take on the form of another human being so no sex shifting, and Flemeth seems no more capable and the Circles are even farther away.