*eyes widen* Well good luck with it there is some amazing stuff coming and some really weird stuff.
I know. I spoiled myself on some stuff. It's going to be quite the ride! Right now I have committed myself to completing DAI and all its DLC, then I will see how much I can get done in Witcher. I want to play Ciri (female Hawke was my first DA PC and her VA is so good as Ciri)!
I would say for Origins what it did bette then Inquisition was the general quality of the side quests, and how those side quests often integrated in and supported the main themes/ plot of the over all work. This is someting DA 4 needs to look at. Other then that, I pretty much agree Inquisition did everything better.
I know. I spoiled myself on some stuff. It's going to be quite the ride! Right now I have committed myself to completing DAI and all its DLC, then I will see how much I can get done in Witcher. I want to play Ciri (female Hawke was my first DA PC and her VA is so good as Ciri)!
IDK I loved her as Fem Hawke but there is something wrong about her performance as Ciri. I like it, a lot, but there is just some annoying tic in it. Oddly enoug I do not even blame her it just sounds like for some of her lines the audio recording itself messed up. Hard to explain, I do not have the words, just a feeeling of wrongness.
I would say for Origins what it did bette then Inquisition was the general quality of the side quests, and how those side quests often integrated in and supported the main themes/ plot of the over all work. This is someting DA 4 needs to look at. Other then that, I pretty much agree Inquisition did everything better.
This. DAI side quest were average tbh, Origins definitely trumps there.
This. DAI side quest were average tbh, Origins definitely trumps there.
Yeah. Some were good, some were horrible. Only three games I feel had consitantly good side quests/ side content. Origins, Witcher 3, and Skyrim. But the latter only because the plot was so mediocre and non exisistant it was hard for the side quests to not be better.
Troll confirmed.
Spend some time on the MEA forum if you want to eliminate all uncertainty.
IDK I loved her as Fem Hawke but there is something wrong about her performance as Ciri. I like it, a lot, but there is just some annoying tic in it. Oddly enoug I do not even blame her it just sounds like for some of her lines the audio recording itself messed up. Hard to explain, I do not have the words, just a feeeling of wrongness.
Could it be because we are used to her as Hawke? I found I had trouble seeing her as Ciri and kept seeing her as Hawke, but with a lower voice.
You're absolutely right. The opinions of those of us who found flaws within the game do not matter when stacked next to the heap of GOTY awards.
Lol what?
The GOTY awards speak for themselves bub, the gaming community thinks highly of DAI and it has the awards to show for it bub. What do the opinions of the members of this toxic forum where the devs go outta their way to avoid matter?
DAI was a great game, Biowares best game and the awards clearly show it.
*sigh* I see where this is going.
I asked for a few points regarding your opinion about why DAI is the best game ever. You responed with an image with game of the year written all over it, and a trailer for DAI's GOTY edition. My point being, that a random image with the names of well-known gaming magazines and a trailer for an edition of the game answers none of my questions.
When you say a game is so good that it should be THE standard for future titles, I think it's only fair to elaborate your opinion, like what were those particular aspects that you found great or how they could be improved even more or used in other titles, not just say something is good because people like it, plus I found some random images as evidence.
Could it be because we are used to her as Hawke? I found I had trouble seeing her as Ciri and kept seeing her as Hawke, but with a lower voice.
...you know this just might be it.
You're absolutely right. The opinions of those of us who found flaws within the game do not matter when stacked next to the heap of GOTY awards.
Who said they haven't seen flaws in the game? Both the OP (and myself) have found flaws in the game. This does not effect our enjoyment. I mean I really do not think that the OP called the game flawless or attacked anyone for their contrary opinions. The only attack posts I see are them calling him a troll for advancing an opinion, sure you can be a troll advancing an opinion but I usually do not pull that trigger unless I see a lot of compelling evidence to support the claim.
Or as the OP said 'lol wut?'
Lol what?
The GOTY awards speak for themselves bub, the gaming community thinks highly of DAI and it has the awards to show for it bub. What do the opinions of the members of this toxic forum where the devs go outta their way to avoid matter?
DAI was a great game, Biowares best game and the awards clearly show it.
As a member of this toxic forum community that does not think DAI is the best BioWare game to date, my opinion does not matter because of a bunch of GOTY awards.
As a member of this toxic forum community that does not think DAI is the best BioWare game to date, my opinion does not matter because of a bunch of GOTY awards.
Im talking about some of the members here not everyone in general bub. The bsn is toxic because they pan games for no reason other than the fact its a bioware game.
As a member of this toxic forum community that does not think DAI is the best BioWare game to date, my opinion does not matter because of a bunch of GOTY awards.
You just need to start handing out your own GOTY awards. They'd be as legitimate as any of the others.
You just need to start handing out your own GOTY awards. They'd be as legitimate as any of the others.
I do but I rarely play more then one new game a year so that's cheating. 
Origin was good but vastly overrated. Nostalgia is the reason why people knock DAI in favour of Origins when in reality, DAI is vastly superior to it in every way(bar villains).
I don't think Origins is overrated.
No, Origins isn't, objectively speaking, as good -- by current videogame standards -- as we remember it to be; nostalgia does play a role.
But the important thing is that Origins was fantastic at the time it was released. I played it and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a true BioWare experience.
For all of its new-fangled improvements (and there are many), I can't say the same for Inquisition. Therefore Origins remains "superior".
For inquisition to be considered as good as Origins, it should have been as enjoyable to play upon release as Origins was to play on its release. It failed.
It was 2014 GOTY and won various accolades from the gamin community, the bsn is the forums where this game gets panned. This is the turning point for Bioware and the rest of their games should look @ DAI and follow suit.
Which is why i think ME:A taking notes from Inquisition is a good thing. Just wanted to post this as a thanks to bioware for such an amazing game, easily their best and not it isnt up for debate.
Anyway should future bioware games takes ntoes from Inquisition? I mean why wouldnt they?
Sorry to burst your bubble but:
Mass Effect: Andromeda Won't be like Dragon Age: Inquisition
The GOTY awards speak for themselves bub, the gaming community thinks highly of DAI and it has the awards to show for it bub. What do the opinions of the members of this toxic forum where the devs go outta their way to avoid matter?
DAI was a great game, Biowares best game and the awards clearly show it.
Well DAI will be competiting against the likes of MGS5 and Witcher 3 for the Golden Joystick GOTY which is voted on by us, the gamers. Results will be shown on 30 Oct 2015. If DAI is so great with the gaming community, then no doubt that DAI will win correct?
Speaking of those, I finally found after three play thrughs where you store the things in Skyhold I was like. 'oh how cool'. Actually makes me want to find em all.
I always make a stop by the bottles when home in Skyhold, and then a quick dip in the vault (when available) =D.
Inquisition is not just the best product BioWare has ever produced but it is my favorite game in my roughly 18 year video game 'career' that I have ever played. It has a really solid foundation to build upon for future games and now that they have worked out their kinks, take fan feedback into consideration, and fully utilize the tech available I think this franchise has nowhere to go but up. Which is kinda scary. Open World or more linear (like Trespasser) I believe BioWare can pull it off. And give us less repetition in the quests.
So now it looks like I'm stalking you because I'm responding only to your posts 
I can agree that DAI has set a foundation for future games and hope that Bioware builds on it. I don't give it a pass, though, because Bio was using a new engine and trying to learn about open world as they went. They are professional game developers, if I were a game critic I would say "well this self contained game has some flaws, but I'm still rating it highly because I can see how this was putting the structure down for the next game in the series." I look at DAI and don't see anything narratively cutting edge or all that original. The rifts are basically from TES: Oblivion.
For all of the flaws in DA2, and there are many, I at least respect Bio for trying a different story structure and focus than their usual games.
I know its pulling a technically but many people do call DA I open world. At least open world ish. I mean granted you can't go from one end of the map to the other, but then strictly speaking you can't in Witcher.
I've just started playing TW3 and the differences in the maps/zones are noticeable. The DAI zones are just larger maps that don't use the corridors of the previous games. We can't keep walking north in the Emerald Graves and eventually enter the Exalted Plains.
I'd even go with the Villains. The Archdemon/ Darkspawn are one of the most boring video game monstrosities ever created
Agree that the darkspawn are nothing special, pretty generic orc substitutes. The broodmother and darkspawn infection do make it more interesting. But even if you don't like Loghain as a villain, how is he worse than Erimond, Florianne, Lucius, Idiot-Commander Clarel, Samson-I'm-killing-my-men-but-it's-on-my-terms-not-the-Chantry's, and Cory himself? Most of them are cardboard villains or had the idiot ball surgically planted inside them.
I've just started playing TW3 and the differences in the maps/zones are noticeable. The DAI zones are just larger maps that don't use the corridors of the previous games. We can't keep walking north in the Emerald Graves and eventually enter the Exalted Plains.
I reached the edge of the map in TW3 many times. Either Geralt or words on the screen will warn you. With DAI we have the little world map exit arches. I think that's what confused me about TW3.
So now it looks like I'm stalking you because I'm responding only to your posts
I can agree that DAI has set a foundation for future games and hope that Bioware builds on it. I don't give it a pass, though, because Bio was using a new engine and trying to learn about open world as they went. They are professional game developers, if I were a game critic I would say "well this self contained game has some flaws, but I'm still rating it highly because I can see how this was putting the structure down for the next game in the series." I look at DAI and don't see anything narratively cutting edge or all that original. The rifts are basically from TES: Oblivion.
For all of the flaws in DA2, and there are many, I at least respect Bio for trying a different story structure and focus than their usual games.
I've just started playing TW3 and the differences in the maps/zones are noticeable. The DAI zones are just larger maps that don't use the corridors of the previous games. We can't keep walking north in the Emerald Graves and eventually enter the Exalted Plains.
Agree that the darkspawn are nothing special, pretty generic orc substitutes. The broodmother and darkspawn infection do make it more interesting. But even if you don't like Loghain as a villain, how is he worse than Erimond, Florianne, Lucius, Idiot-Commander Clarel, Samson-I'm-killing-my-men-but-it's-on-my-terms-not-the-Chantry's, and Cory himself? Most of them are cardboard villains or had the idiot ball surgically planted inside them.
Wait till you get to Skellige.
Rather then, bar Florianne, I felt probably more of a connection with them then I did with Loghain. I found Corypheus far more interesting philosophically then Loghain. Which is saying something given his releative lack of screen time.
I see DAI getting bashed on plenty of forums outside of BSN.
I'm just not sure how fans like Al Foley can so staunchly defend a game that is so obviously lacking in things - I mean glaringly so. I only take issue with it because in afraid the series will only continue to make these mistakes based on this support when I've invested so much of myself these past few years into this world and I want that world to continue but in quality. It's like physically injuring a part of me ;__;
Because the whole experience for me was very satisfying, more then just that. And because what Inquisition does right is more then what it does wrong, and in fact a lot of what it does right cancels out what it does wrong. Sure it has made a lot of mistakes, but what hasn't? And furthermore most of the mistakes with Inquistion I feel are easily fixible and aren't major concerns, especially since BioWare has done some of the stuff I think they should fix already in the past...in Origins.
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