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[Jewellzify]

Not to be nitpicky, but SKyrim wasn't mentioned at all here until you brought it up.

 

And just because people are speculating that MEA isn't going to be all that and a bag of chips doesn't make it less "speculation"

 

Face it ME3 left a very bitter taste in a lot of people.  Even if you aren't one such person.  And their speculations are going to reflect that.  And I hope Bioware, at least, gets that.

 

I was speaking in terms of all threads, not just this one. I am aware I was the first to mention Skyrim here and its just an opinion like everyone else's that I don't think Bioware should make their games more like Skyrim or any other Bethesda game for that matter... 

 

Regarding the endings for ME3, could they have been better, sure; but I do not agree that the endings killed the franchise and that Bioware simply doesn't care.. Bioware wanted to end Shep's story and ME3 was the way they chose to do so.. Sure, they could have chose a different way to end the story of Shep, but that's not the way it worked out... And, yes; I am one of the few that enjoyed the endings (not so much the "do nothing" ending) for ME3.. 

 

I made this thread simply to speculate with others about the possible story plot, what they may be expecting.. yada yada.. and yes, I am aware that this opens up to people that dislike the franchise. But again with the point mentioned above, if you think that the game will be terrible and that ME3 completely destroyed the franchise, then why are you concerned about ME:A if you're already certain it's going to be terrible because ME3 left a "bitter taste" in your mouth.. Using logic here, if you played ME3 and said to yourself "Bioware destroyed the franchise!", I don't know about you, but I would not purchase another game by Bioware if that was my true feeling... So for people who supposedly dislike the franchise to take the time out of their days to come here and read the threads, they must be somewhat excited or at least a little curious..I just don't see the need to tear down the game when TBH we no nothing about it yet... Just sayin'

[7twozero]

"Haters are just confused fans"

[AlanC9]

I created the thread hoping to get everyone's speculations on what the game could be about, what they expect to see, what they are hoping for, etc.. Not to debate the purpose of the game taking place in Andromeda, but it seems that is where almost all threads end up. 

How else could such a thread go? If we're talking about what we expect to see in Andromeda, then of course the purpose of the game moving to Andromeda is in play. It would be stupid to try and guess what the writers will give us in ME:A by ignoring whar the writers are trying to do in ME:A.

[7twozero]

Jesus, man, with attitudes like that, no wonder bsn has such a crappy reputation. Just gotta take a dump on every possible ray of sunshine huh? "I'm excited for Andromeda" "Oh yeah well the writers are dumb, the story is dumb, you're dumb"

[AlanC9]

Hey, I didn't mean to sound like I was bothered by this. I actually agree with most of the OP's guesses. I just think that the part about getting word from the MW is unlikely, since if Bio was planning to open that up they likely wouldn't be moving the setting.

[MrMrPendragon]

ME:A is not real

 

We're still in the Indoctrination Theory.

[Jewellzify]

Hey, I didn't mean to sound like I was bothered by this. I actually agree with most of the OP's guesses. I just think that the part about getting word from the MW is unlikely, since if Bio was planning to open that up they likely wouldn't be moving the setting.

 

The reason I think Bioware will mention the events from the MW in codex or conversation is for the simple fact that if they refuse to mention it, then it would open the flood gate for the people that say Bioware doesn't care about player choices even if those choices will have no effect due to the fact that this story is taking place in a completely different galaxy.. 

[Jewellzify]

ME:A is not real

 

We're still in the Indoctrination Theory.

(First, I did take this comment as a joking reference; so I apologize if you were being serious that you're expecting the "Indoctrination Theory" for ME:A  )

 

Haha that's interesting.. I never really understood the whole indoctrination theory, but I have heard about it.. I don't think Shep was indoctrinated, however, in the end when s/he comes face to face with the Illusive Man he has ability to control others which he uses to shoot Anderson through Shep, but Shep can either talk the Illusive Man into shooting himself or Shep kills him; so for those actions being possible, I don't believe that Shep was indoctrinated and I'm pretty sure the protag for ME:A won't be either lol 

[MrMrPendragon]

(First, I did take this comment as a joking reference; so I apologize if you were being serious that you're expecting the "Indoctrination Theory" for ME:A  )

 

Haha that's interesting.. I never really understood the whole indoctrination theory, but I have heard about it.. I don't think Shep was indoctrinated, however, in the end when s/he comes face to face with the Illusive Man he has ability to control others which he uses to shoot Anderson through Shep, but Shep can either talk the Illusive Man into shooting himself or Shep kills him; so for those actions being possible, I don't believe that Shep was indoctrinated and I'm pretty sure the protag for ME:A won't be either lol 

 

I was only joking

[KaiserShep]

The reason I think Bioware will mention the events from the MW in codex or conversation is for the simple fact that if they refuse to mention it, then it would open the flood gate for the people that say Bioware doesn't care about player choices even if those choices will have no effect due to the fact that this story is taking place in a completely different galaxy.. 

 

Just imagine if they left during the Reaper war. 

 

"Yeah, we heard about what the reapers were doing, and we checked out of that roach motel of a galaxy. Final sensor readings picked up massive surges of energy coming from the relay network. Poor bastards. I hate to think what happened to them."

[LinksOcarina]

 

I will not curtail my opinions anywhere, the least of all here. BioWare has made themselves deserving of criticism, and I exercise my right to express that criticism on the forum they created specifically for the purpose of developer-consumer communication.

You cannot have a forum of fair discussion if you don't allow people to express negative opinions of the game. It's undemocratic.
 

 

 

So..where is the criticism you are bringing to the table? One poor joke about Mass Effect and the big bang doesn't really count.

 

I just see a bunch of BS instead. Hell, I may disagree with Iakus, Sylvius, Alan and the like for what they say all the time, but at least they make actual arguments. Ones that challenge myself and I bet a bunch of others to at least think outside the box.

 

One snide comment is not really doing that. Just makes you look like a schmuck who frankly, should be censured. 

[Jewellzify]

Just imagine if they left during the Reaper war. 

 

"Yeah, we heard about what the reapers were doing, and we checked out of that roach motel of a galaxy. Final sensor readings picked up massive surges of energy coming from the relay network. Poor bastards. I hate to think what happened to them."

 

TBH if the "Ark Theory" is the route Bioware is going for ME:A, I would guess that "Ark" departed during the Reaper War after Thessia, because when Shep returns to the Normandy to deliver the news to the Asari Councilor, the Asari mentions preparations to make for continuity.. That would be pretty funny to hear in an NPC conversation though lol   

[LinksOcarina]

I am probably one of the few people who actually thinks we will be in contact with the Milky Way.

 

The reason is simple; and it's the ships that come with us. 

 

If we go back to that leak, there were mentions of other ships going to Andromeda, ships with other aliens and factions and the like. My guess is that the whole effort is purposefully coordinated so that the Milky Way is somehow involved in the project, or at the very least, thats the plan until something horrible goes awry and were shipwrecked in another galaxy.

 

Not to mention the countless number of mercs and lawlessness we need to face, that was also mentioned in the leak. Unless they are all other alien species...my guess is the trips to Andromeda have been going on for a while...

[Jewellzify]

I am probably one of the few people who actually thinks we will be in contact with the Milky Way.

 

The reason is simple; and it's the ships that come with us. 

 

If we go back to that leak, there were mentions of other ships going to Andromeda, ships with other aliens and factions and the like. My guess is that the whole effort is purposefully coordinated so that the Milky Way is somehow involved in the project, or at the very least, thats the plan until something horrible goes awry and were shipwrecked in another galaxy.

 

Not to mention the countless number of mercs and lawlessness we need to face, that was also mentioned in the leak. Unless they are all other alien species...my guess is the trips to Andromeda have been going on for a while...

 

I really like this speculation and it's not one I have heard before. Do you think that the trips to Andromeda would have taken place before or after the Shep story? The only reason I ask this is for the obvious endings issue, specifically if someone chose the "do nothing" ending (for reasons beyond my comprehension lol), then all life would have been harvested by the Reapers and from what we understand from ME3 when I harvest is completed, either the race goes completely extinct (like the Protheans, except Javik) or the race has to begin life all over and rediscover technology. If the trips to Andromeda were taking place before the Shep/Reaper conflict, then we could assume that we were trying to establish life in Andromeda, during would be the "ark" theory, but after would bring in the endings issues. Or do you think that I'm overthinking the endings and they won't have an impact on the story? 

[LinksOcarina]

I really like this speculation and it's not one I have heard before. Do you think that the trips to Andromeda would have taken place before or after the Shep story? The only reason I ask this is for the obvious endings issue, specifically if someone chose the "do nothing" ending (for reasons beyond my comprehension lol), then all life would have been harvested by the Reapers and from what we understand from ME3 when I harvest is completed, either the race goes completely extinct (like the Protheans, except Javik) or the race has to begin life all over and rediscover technology. If the trips to Andromeda were taking place before the Shep/Reaper conflict, then we could assume that we were trying to establish life in Andromeda, during would be the "ark" theory, but after would bring in the endings issues. Or do you think that I'm overthinking the endings and they won't have an impact on the story? 

 

Most of it comes from the big leak back in April. 

 

Truth be told, I think the real trick to this is that they mention the ending without mentioning the ending; it's been X amount of years, and we all know about the Great Reaper War and the Legend of the Shepard.

 

That kind of stuff really. And with that they give passing reference to one of the three endings ("Remember when we figured out how to cloak our glowing green circuitry?" "Remember when the Shepard built the mass relays?" so on). Simple, a bit dated, but effective. Hell; Witcher 3 did it in the end, it seemed to work there. It's not really an overthinking issue, its just an importance issue; it wont have an impact but it will be mentioned. 

 

As for the Refuse ending, it's non-canon I bet, much like how Shepard dying in 2 was non-canon. 

 

So I think it will be after, and it will be a ton of ships out there; something like a colonization effort tends to take a lot of coordination to get started, or else the colony fails.

[Sartoz]

The reason I think Bioware will mention the events from the MW in codex or conversation is for the simple fact that if they refuse to mention it, then it would open the flood gate for the people that say Bioware doesn't care about player choices even if those choices will have no effect due to the fact that this story is taking place in a completely different galaxy.. 

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Player choices in the Mass Effect trilogy belong in the trilogy.

 

ME:A is a new game in a new setting that, in my view, has nothing to do with Shep. Bio made a mistake in having the Mako and the N7 logo because many now can't view a new game without a lifeline to Shep's universe.

[Jewellzify]

Most of it comes from the big leak back in April. 

 

Truth be told, I think the real trick to this is that they mention the ending without mentioning the ending; it's been X amount of years, and we all know about the Great Reaper War and the Legend of the Shepard.

 

That kind of stuff really. And with that they give passing reference to one of the three endings ("Remember when we figured out how to cloak our glowing green circuitry?" "Remember when the Shepard built the mass relays?" so on). Simple, a bit dated, but effective. Hell; Witcher 3 did it in the end, it seemed to work there. It's not really an overthinking issue, its just an importance issue; it wont have an impact but it will be mentioned. 

 

As for the Refuse ending, it's non-canon I bet, much like how Shepard dying in 2 was non-canon. 

 

So I think it will be after, and it will be a ton of ships out there; something like a colonization effort tends to take a lot of coordination to get started, or else the colony fails.

 

Thanks for explaining it to me! Honestly, I've been trying to hide from supposed "leaks" lol so this is the first time I have heard anything about this. It's definitely going to be interesting to see what Bioware has in store for ME:A I am super excited!!

 

 

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Player choices in the Mass Effect trilogy belong in the trilogy.

 

ME:A is a new game in a new setting that, in my view, has nothing to do with Shep. Bio made a mistake in having the Mako and the N7 logo because many now can't view a new game without a lifeline to Shep's universe.

 

I definitely agree with you that ME:A is going to be a new story in a new setting that should not be remotely concerned with the previous ME games with Shep's story. When I mention the player choices in this thread, it's because I know it is a standing issue for some that say, " well Bioware is taking this story to Andromeda because they don't want to address the endings for ME3." Which I can see their point on, but they fail to realize that this story is in no way shape or form a continuation of Shep's story and so the choices made for their Shep are simply the choices they made for Shep during his/her and are not going to affect this new protag (at least this is my hope). I would like to know however how the protag is in Andromeda as a sort of backstory for the protag: did they arrive on the "Ark", did they come with N7, did they join researchers and scientists?? That would be my main curiosity that I hope is answered.  

 

I agree as well about N7. When I first heard rumors of Bioware using N7 in the next game, my concerns were that they might be circling back and giving us another Shep type character just with a different name and I am still really hoping for a really good story as to why N7 will be in ME:A. Regarding the Mako however, I am soooo happy to have the Mako back because that damn Hammerhead   You could not sneeze in the shitty thing without making it blow to smithereens lol I was soo frustrated with the Hammerhead, so I am glad to have a more reliable vehicle back lol 

[Sartoz]

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I'm speculating on a new feature: The Pause Key!

[LinksOcarina]

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Player choices in the Mass Effect trilogy belong in the trilogy.

 

ME:A is a new game in a new setting that, in my view, has nothing to do with Shep. Bio made a mistake in having the Mako and the N7 logo because many now can't view a new game without a lifeline to Shep's universe.

 

I agree, although I have a feeling they need to do some sort of lip service to several choices.

 

I can kind of imagine a scenario where they are testing your knowledge of what happened in the past or something like that, to set up a "backstory" for the Reaper War.

[Arcian]

So..where is the criticism you are bringing to the table? One poor joke about Mass Effect and the big bang doesn't really count.

Well, since you asked, it's going to blow harder than the big bang because:

 

1) It's set in the Andromeda galaxy. The Milky Way had a lot of post-Reaper War potential but BioWare just tossed that out the window. The Milky Way civilization also lack the technological and economical capacity to travel that far, especially if you consider the immense infrastructural damage inflicted upon them by the Reapers. It will take centuries before the Milky Way species are back to pre-Reaper War levels. Add to that a few more centuries to develop the technology to travel 2.5 million light years within a reasonable timespan, and you're quickly approaching year 3000. This of course assumes galactic peace will last that long - any galactic war erupting in the intervening centuries is just going to delay the development of the "Ark" even longer.

2) The protagonist is human. A lot of fans wanted to play as one of the alien species, made evident by how popular ME3MP was. A locked human protagonist is inevitably just going to end up being compared to Shepard, which goes against the whole point of the new game's agenda to stand alone from the original trilogy.

3) We aren't going to visit any of the old locations, so we aren't going to see how the galaxy has been rebuilt since the Reaper War and how the species have evolved, technologically, economically and culturally since we last saw them.

4) Going by the leak, ME:A is going to have Reapers 2.0 and shallow, repetitive, Inquisition-like open world content that in no way adds to the narrative.

5) It's made by the same people who made the Omega DLC, which was by far the weakest of ME3's DLCs.

6) Super MAC, one of the chief architects of ME3's abysmal ending, is working on the game and he now has more creative power than he did in ME3.

7) Going by what we saw in the announcement trailer, particularly the floating rocks, ME:A is abandoning any semblance of adherence to scientific principles and is now well underway in its transformation to Star Wars: The Local Group. This may just be me but one of the reasons I fell for Mass Effect was because it wasn't outlandish like Star Wars or Star Trek, and actually tried to make its lore and technobabble as scientifically accurate as possible. This gradually eroded away over the course of Mass Effect 2 and 3, and I am not confident ME:A is going to break that trend, an observation which is supported by the physics-breaking nonsense in the announcement trailer.

 

I could probably go on, but this will do for now.

[Vespervin]

'floating rocks, ME:A is abandoning any semblance of adherence to scientific principles and is now underway in its transformation into Star Wars: The Local Group'.

 

How so? I don't remember seeing 'floating rocks' in Star Wars.

 

Edit: Unless you're referring to Makeb, which is in a video-game and isn't canon, so I personally wouldn't count it as Star Wars, just that BioWare team getting carried away.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

'floating rocks, ME:A is abandoning any semblance of adherence to scientific principles and is now underway in its transformation into Star Wars: The Local Group'.

 

How so? I don't remember seeing 'floating rocks' in Star Wars.

Well, Yoda did have Luke lift rocks with the Force during his Force training on Dagobah.

[CYRAX470]

I don't know much about astrophysics, but...couldn't those asteroids in the trailer be in geosynchronous obit of the planet? Or is that totally impossible? 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't know much about astrophysics, but...couldn't those asteroids in the trailer be in geosynchronous obit of the planet? Or is that totally impossible? 

I think they mean the floating rocks on the mountain and forest planet(the one with the giant flying creature).

At 0:30-0:33.

[CYRAX470]

I think they mean the floating rocks on the mountain and forest planet(the one with the giant flying creature).

 

Really? Looks like I missed that, time to rewatch,

 

EDIT: I see them, guess they're going for a Avatar Hallelujah Mountains thing...?