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'Well, Yoda did have Luke lift those rocks with the Force during his training on Dagobah'.

 

Haha!

 

Anyway, I don't like it when there are rocks randomly floating on planets. One thing I dislike about Halo now is how Forerunner structures are just floating above the ground. Meh.



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I'm dying to see some info myself on N7 day. They need to start their marketing campaign already. We need actual gameplay footage including MP
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'Well, Yoda did have Luke lift those rocks with the Force during his training on Dagobah'.

 

Haha!

 

Anyway, I don't like it when there are rocks randomly floating on planets. One thing I dislike about Halo now is how Forerunner structures are just floating above the ground. Meh.

The Forerunner structures make sense since they are artificial constructions and have antigravity built into them. Natural rocks however have no excuse. 



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I know why they're floating, I just don't like it. And you're right, rocks have no excuse.

 

You hear that, you damn rocks!!?

 

Anyway, regarding the floating rocks in the trailer with the planet full of giant, flying birds. For all we know there could be some gravity-whatever machine in the mountain, I dunno. I hope there is a reason beyond 'they're just floating rocks. Cool, huh? It's sciiiiiiiiiiiiii-fffiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii'.


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I know why they're floating, I just don't like it. And you're right, rocks have no excuse.

 

You hear that, you damn rocks!!?

 

Anyway, regarding the floating rocks in the trailer with the planet full of giant, flying birds. For all we know there could be some gravity-whatever machine in the mountain, I dunno. I hope there is a reason beyond 'they're just floating rocks. Cool, huh? It's sciiiiiiiiiiiiii-fffiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii'.

Hopefully you're right. 



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Regarding the "floating rocks" scene from the trailer, to me it appears to be an asteroid about to hit the planet or an asteroid orbiting the planet.. Not sure this has anything to do with Luke or Yoda or anything from Star Wars lol but I agree that this game is a sci-fi come to life from the imagination of the writers lol I don't think in the game need scientific backing or needs to make sense for the simple fact that this is a fictional game.. I doubt purple dragons that can talk in heavy sarcasm are real, but people still enjoy playing Spyro lol 

 

 1 week and 2 days left until N7 Day!! I cannot wait to get more info on ME:A!! 



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Well, since you asked, it's going to blow harder than the big bang because:

 

1) It's set in the Andromeda galaxy. The Milky Way had a lot of post-Reaper War potential but BioWare just tossed that out the window. The Milky Way civilization also lack the technological and economical capacity to travel that far, especially if you consider the immense infrastructural damage inflicted upon them by the Reapers. It will take centuries before the Milky Way species are back to pre-Reaper War levels. Add to that a few more centuries to develop the technology to travel 2.5 million light years within a reasonable timespan, and you're quickly approaching year 3000. This of course assumes galactic peace will last that long - any galactic war erupting in the intervening centuries is just going to delay the development of the "Ark" even longer.

2) The protagonist is human. A lot of fans wanted to play as one of the alien species, made evident by how popular ME3MP was. A locked human protagonist is inevitably just going to end up being compared to Shepard, which goes against the whole point of the new game's agenda to stand alone from the original trilogy.

3) We aren't going to visit any of the old locations, so we aren't going to see how the galaxy has been rebuilt since the Reaper War and how the species have evolved, technologically, economically and culturally since we last saw them.

4) Going by the leak, ME:A is going to have Reapers 2.0 and shallow, repetitive, Inquisition-like open world content that in no way adds to the narrative.

5) It's made by the same people who made the Omega DLC, which was by far the weakest of ME3's DLCs.

6) Super MAC, one of the chief architects of ME3's abysmal ending, is working on the game and he now has more creative power than he did in ME3.

7) Going by what we saw in the announcement trailer, particularly the floating rocks, ME:A is abandoning any semblance of adherence to scientific principles and is now well underway in its transformation to Star Wars: The Local Group. This may just be me but one of the reasons I fell for Mass Effect was because it wasn't outlandish like Star Wars or Star Trek, and actually tried to make its lore and technobabble as scientifically accurate as possible. This gradually eroded away over the course of Mass Effect 2 and 3, and I am not confident ME:A is going to break that trend, an observation which is supported by the physics-breaking nonsense in the announcement trailer.

 

I could probably go on, but this will do for now.

 

Ah I see.

 

Although a majority of that is both subjective and pure speculation of course though, to which they are coherent arguments is a bit problematic. I can understand why you might not like it now at least, although adopting the wise mans approach of "well see" makes sense here. 

 

Although I am getting sick and tired of the hatedick on Mac Walters...I have never seen people so venomous over someone for something so minute...it's like he shot everyone's pet dog while we had to watch. I just don't get it sometimes with people, its like a blood feud.

 

As for the scientific accuracy...Mass Effect was always a space opera...i'm not sure why people are surprised by this. 



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I think they mean the floating rocks on the mountain and forest planet(the one with the giant flying creature).

At 0:30-0:33.

This is what I meant.

'Well, Yoda did have Luke lift those rocks with the Force during his training on Dagobah'.
 
Haha!
 
Anyway, I don't like it when there are rocks randomly floating on planets. One thing I dislike about Halo now is how Forerunner structures are just floating above the ground. Meh.

Well at least they are hyper-advanced, artificial structures. Natural rock formations floating around have no excuse. One of the biggest things that irked me about James Cameron's Space Smurfs.
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This is what I meant.

Well at least they are hyper-advanced, artificial structures. Natural rock formations floating around have no excuse. One of the biggest things that irked me about James Cameron's Space Smurfs.

 

 

I'm not sure about that.  How does element zero manifest in natural environments? I can potentially see a element zero laced rock floating especially if in conjunction with magnetic effects in this setting.

 

Admittedly it is the dumbest thing I saw in that video and I hope its just concept art that gets dropped but its far more believable to me than sheps resurrection or heck even N7 shadows for this setting.



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Is eezo going to appear in Andromeda? I don't know much about it. What if it's only found in the Milky Way? Someone clarify?



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Although I am getting sick and tired of the hatedick on Mac Walters...I have never seen people so venomous over someone for something so minute...it's like he shot everyone's pet dog while we had to watch. I just don't get it sometimes with people, its like a blood feud.

To be absolutely fair, I gave him the benefit of the doubt after ME2's decline in writing quality. I thought, "Well, he's new to this whole lead writer thing. Hopefully he will have learned from his mistakes when making ME3."

Hoo boy was I wrong.
 
Even his comics, which he wrote completely on his own, were atrociously written, filled with clichés, plot holes and just badly paced and badly structured in general.
 
It got even worse after I read Geoff Keighley's Final Hours of Mass Effect 3. Mac's BioWare career is a classic case of cronyism. Casey and Mac knew each other from before Mac joined BioWare. His first game was Jade Empire. Mass Effect, his second. By his third game he was made lead writer after Drew left, even though there were a lot of other writers who'd stayed with BioWare longer, with more games under their belt. Three games aren't enough experience to be made lead writer of a AAA franchise.

He pushed Cerberus superhard since the first game and turned them from a minor villain into the Mass Effect equivalent of the goddamn Sith Empire. It's a problem when a minor villain from the first game ends up overshadowing the main villains of the franchise. They are now the textbook example of a plot tumor.
 
Bottom line, Mac's contributions to the Mass Effect franchise aren't good enough to justify him being in the position of power he has attained.
 

As for the scientific accuracy...Mass Effect was always a space opera...i'm not sure why people are surprised by this.

It wasn't like other space operas though. Right from the start they had the agenda to make Mass Effect more grounded than sci-fi's like Star Wars and Star Trek.

Former Mass Effect writer Chris L'Etoile fought really, really hard to keep Mass Effect as scientific as possible, but he was constantly hamstrung by devs on a higher payroll level than him. As an example, he wanted to avoid the pinocchio syndrome with Legion and EDI. He was particularly opposed to the idea of Legion having an obsession about Shepard, but was forced to write it in anyway and tried his best to write it so it made some sense. He also thought the notion of Reapers being literally made from organic goo was a bad idea, so he pushed another idea that they were purely machine but incorporated information stripped from organic DNA into their code structure, but the higher-up (never mentioned by name, maybe Casey, maybe Mac, maybe someone else we don't know of?) ruled in favor of the goo = Reaper scenario. There are way more examples of perfectly good, scientifically accurate writing being arbitrarily tossed in the bin for the sake of coolness factor or just someone's personal tastes.

What's obvious is that neither Casey nor Mac gave even the tiniest sliver of a f**k for scientific accuracy when they churned out the abomination some have taken to call the ending of Mass Effect 3.
 

Is eezo going to appear in Andromeda? I don't know much about it. What if it's only found in the Milky Way? Someone clarify?

IIRC eezo is a byproduct of stars dying, so it ought to exist in the Andromeda as well.


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'IIRC eezo is a byproduct of stars dying, so it ought to exist in the Andromeda as well'.

 

Okay. Thank you.

 

(Why, oh WHY can my IE not quote people on these forums? Grr!)