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[iM3GTR]

Am I the only one who thinks there should have been no actual explanation of where the Reapers came from?

[Treacherous J Slither]

This is so true. Also, Sovereign was leaving when he first appeared. We didn't really get to know what the heck it was, but we knew it was dangerous. When we talked to him, I loved Sovereign's arrogance and utter disdain for Shepard and Organics generally. When he attacks the Citadel, he just rams the Citadel ships in his way, showing how powerful his hull is. How can we hope to damage something like that? It's only in a later cutscene that we see Sovereign actually use a weapon and it annihilates a ship in one hit. We only win because of that weird feedback problem (too bad that never came up again.) and even though Shepard resolves to beat the Reapers, we have no idea how that will be accomplished. ME2 has a lot to do and a lot of room to do it.

I totally get the idea of making Harbinger a more personal villain. Maybe it could have worked. However, Harbinger was damaged by several things. The Harbinger collector was visible right away on Horizon, so there was no impact the first time you saw him "assume control" on the battlefield. When you did fight him, he's not that much more dangerous than a normal collector. He's really only a threat because he can knock you out of cover for all of his mooks to gun you down. Then we kill him over and over and over (again, are we giving Harbinger a headache each time?) You can't hope to harm Sovereign but you bear Harbinger one hundred times.




I do like those first two lines but I never liked the "salvation" idea. Sovereign had utter disdain for Organics. It wasn't just that Reapers were better, it's that everything else was nothing. I like Shepard's machines can be broken line because it fits with what he knows at the time. He hasn't seen the Reaper's true power. Sovereign is beyond Shepard's comprehension and I love Sovereign's response, correctly identifying Shepard's line as "confidence born of ignorance."

As for the "not really alive", that's really because the "AI can be alive" idea was pushed more in ME2, but in-universe you could chalk it up to Shepard learning from his experiences with EDI and possibly Legion.

Holy crap; we found actual character development for Shepard!



But, as Sovereign says, it is "Confidence born of ignorance."



At the time it didn't seem unnecessary, particularly if you consider Vigil's ideas. The Reapers sleep out in Dark Space to preserve energy or do what they do with the technology they collect and be safe from discovery in that state. Based on what we knew at the time, coming from Dark Space would have taken a very long time without a Relay, not merely 2 and a half years.

Safe from discovery?

What would it matter if they were discovered? What do you think would happen?

[SuperJogi]

Safe from discovery?

What would it matter if they were discovered? What do you think would happen?

 

They could be forced to fight and end the cycle prematurely.

 

On the other hand, the galaxy is really big and the relay network only gives acces to a tiny part of it. It should be no problem for the reapers to find a star very from the network so that the chances of accidental discovery are practicly zero. Like the collector base, except without a suspiciously red glowing relay leading to it.

[Natureguy85]

Safe from discovery?

What would it matter if they were discovered? What do you think would happen?

 

Well if we follow with what Vigil says, they are shutdown to preserve energy and are therefore vulnerable. Or something like in Freespace where shields don't work in subspace so you can kill the enemy dreadnaught there. There are several things you could do. Especially because in my ideal Mass Effect, there would be more reverse engineering from Sovereign and things like the Thanix cannon would go farther in making the Reapers easier to kill.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Couldn't they just lie dormant?

Or pretend to not be evil? Nobody knows about them. They could say anything.

[The Real Pearl #2]

Am I the only one who thinks there should have been no actual explanation of where the Reapers came from?

that would have made the ending even more stupid. 

[Remix-General Aetius]

Those two clowns got nothing on Sluggard.

[iM3GTR]

that would have made the ending even more stupid.

I hardly think it's worse than saying immortal space squids created an AI which decided to make more AI to kill all organics to stop them being killed by their AI.
The Reapers were never going to work whatever explaination the writers gave them.

[Natureguy85]

that would have made the ending even more stupid. 

 

I don't think so. Where they came from or why they do their thing isn't all that important. What they are doing is reason enough to oppose them.