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[mgagne]

I'm in the midst of the 4th playthrough and I confess this is getting *really* tedious.  I've been skipping whole areas now but the time gated war table missions are preventing me from rushing to the end game.  I'm not motivated to do 'Jaws of Hakkon' or 'The Descent' (which Ive done before) since I can craft better stuff myself and since I have all the schematics already anyway.  Alright, there's veil quartz in the Frostback basin but I'll be damned if I start farming - MMO style - just to have enough of it to outfit my people.  Thanks to a few hair/cosmetic mods Xenon's mirror is no longer accessible and besides - he doesn't even sell tier 4 mats other than the dragon stuff.  And the companions are starting to get on my nerves.

 

This feels just like a loved one whose flaws you're starting to find unavoidable to notice...

 

But ye gawds there's nothing else to play!

 

I've done DAO more times than I can count - DA2 once and that was enought;

I've done Skyrim to death and back - unmodded and modded to the gilt - I even wrote a 400 pages fan fic about it;

I've done Witcher 3 and while it *is* a great game it's not DA - we had Geralt' story - but it wasn't *our* story;

I have no interest in futuristic stuff so the ME series is out of the question;

I've tried Pillars of Eternity and it was a snore fest.

 

What else is there?

 

Old school stuff?  I've done BG - BG2 - IWD - several times over back in the day.

 

I suppose I want a world that is a viable alternative to the 'shiity one' we live in. 

[thats1evildude]

Dark Souls? Bloodborne?

[straykat]

Try Divinity:OS or Shadowrun. Or maybe FO4 will be decent...who knows.

[LightningPoodle]

In less than two weeks, Fallout 4 will release. I think it's set in the future by a couple hundred years but the precedent for the world's setting is what the world would have been like if things went another direction during the golden age, and then nuclear war on top of that. So it is but it isn't, futuristic.

You could try something that isn't an RPG? Lots of enjoyable games out there.

[vbibbi]

Charades?

[straykat]

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[Cantina]

Why not Dragons Dogma?

 

Good game. It needs a bit of polish. But man the fights are fun. Nothing like climbing up on top of a  monster's back and shoving a sword in his kidney.

[htisscrimbliv]

Why not Dragons Dogma?

Good game. It needs a bit of polish. But man the fights are fun. Nothing like climbing up on top of a monster's back and shoving a sword in his kidney.

+1. Played until 200

[Arvaarad]

The best way to get out of a videogame rut is tabletop RPGs, IMO.

 

Cutscenes getting predictable? Banter getting stale? Quests getting that dusty sheen of familiarity? In tabletop RPGs, anything is possible if you convince the GM it's possible. Your game experience is guaranteed to be fresh, even if (for some reason) you play the exact same module ten times. And a lot of tabletop RPGs are in a fantasy setting, so it's right up your alley. 

 

If you've never played before, hit up your local boardgame/CCG/miniatures store. They'll point you to what you need to get, and they often host gaming groups that you can join up with.

[Big I]

Why not Dragons Dogma?

 

Good game. It needs a bit of polish. But man the fights are fun. Nothing like climbing up on top of a  monster's back and shoving a sword in his kidney.

 

Good game, but what a weird story.

[IanPolaris]

The best way to get out of a videogame rut is tabletop RPGs, IMO.

 

Cutscenes getting predictable? Banter getting stale? Quests getting that dusty sheen of familiarity? In tabletop RPGs, anything is possible if you convince the GM it's possible. Your game experience is guaranteed to be fresh, even if (for some reason) you play the exact same module ten times. And a lot of tabletop RPGs are in a fantasy setting, so it's right up your alley. 

 

If you've never played before, hit up your local boardgame/CCG/miniatures store. They'll point you to what you need to get, and they often host gaming groups that you can join up with.

 

Unfortunately that's a lot easier said than done these days.  Being an avid table-top RPGer myself, I agree that it's a wonderful hobby that helps address many of these concerns, and ten years ago (and maybe even 5-6) I'd have endorsed this post wholeheartedly.

 

However, increasingly the best gaming groups with the best GMs and players tend to be longstanding ones, and unfortunately they tend to be the most insular.  Not only that but there are fewer and fewer FLGS' (Friendly Local Gaming Stores) out there and the ones that do exist cater more and more to graphic novels, board games, and comic books.  With this trend, I've found fewer and fewer stores are now willing to post (or help) with contact information to help you find a new group if you are on the outside looking in.  The groups that are easiest to join are the organized play groups sponsored by Wotc and Paizo (Adventure's League---D&D 5e and Pathfinder Society--Pathfinder respectively).  Unfortunately IMX and IMHO all too often you get exposed to the very worst of gamers (both players and GMs) in such events.

 

My best advice if you want to branch into table top is to find local gamers into the same using social media (and bear in mind that tabletop covers a LOT of ground so make sure you find people you like and a game all of you like!)

[Il Divo]

Dark Souls. It always begins and ends with Dark Souls.

 

But alternate possibilities: you mentioned old school games like BG, I'm guessing you've also tried Planescape: Torment?

[Arvaarad]

Unfortunately that's a lot easier said than done these days.  Being an avid table-top RPGer myself, I agree that it's a wonderful hobby that helps address many of these concerns, and ten years ago (and maybe even 5-6) I'd have endorsed this post wholeheartedly.

 

However, increasingly the best gaming groups with the best GMs and players tend to be longstanding ones, and unfortunately they tend to be the most insular.  Not only that but there are fewer and fewer FLGS' (Friendly Local Gaming Stores) out there and the ones that do exist cater more and more to graphic novels, board games, and comic books.  With this trend, I've found fewer and fewer stores are now willing to post (or help) with contact information to help you find a new group if you are on the outside looking in.  The groups that are easiest to join are the organized play groups sponsored by Wotc and Paizo (Adventure's League---D&D 5e and Pathfinder Society--Pathfinder respectively).  Unfortunately IMX and IMHO all too often you get exposed to the very worst of gamers (both players and GMs) in such events.

 

My best advice if you want to branch into table top is to find local gamers into the same using social media (and bear in mind that tabletop covers a LOT of ground so make sure you find people you like and a game all of you like!)

 

Hm, that's a shame to hear. I have a group that I hang with regularly, so the only time I join unfamiliar groups is at cons. And con groups have been, almost universally, pretty wonderful.

 

Although come to think of it, the least fun group was at one of the Pathfinder Society events, so I guess that lines up with your experience. At cons I usually go with a mix of more offbeat games like Fiasco, Paranoia, and lots and lots of homebrew systems. So maybe that exposes me to more laid-back/silly groups.

 

As far as gaming shops' focus, I think that depends on what area you're in. When Pathfinder came out, it really rallied some shops around PnP games. D&D 5e helped with that momentum as well. In the areas I've been, I've seen more of a focus on PnP games, not less, in recent years.

[AFA]

Dragon's Dogma

Divinity: Original Sin

Neverwinter Nights 2 for an older game

 

Nier is also one of the most underrated games of last gen. 

[Tainted]

Dark Souls? Bloodborne?

Bloodborne worked for me

[Swordfishtrombone]

I know the feeling - Bioware almost has a niche of it's own. There simply aren't enough games of the type Bioware makes. I briefly tried The Witcher 2, but my poor finger dexterity made the learning curve for combat too steep for me to be willing to learn it enough to be comfortable - had it been possible to completely pause the game during combat, that might have made it bearable. Add to that that I'm much more interested in creating a character of my own, rather than playing out the story of a pre-made character, TW2 just wasn't the game for me.

 

I'm in a slightly better situation though that I don't have anything against a futuristic setting; the mass effect series, especially the first two games, was very good. Though the ending of the third was so atrocious, that it destroyed my interest in the series completely for about a year, and even now I'm kinda lukewarm about it.

 

I'd recommend giving mass effect 1 a chance despite your misgivings about the genre; it may just suck you in. Getting the hang of combat took a while, but once I got to the Citadel, I knew that I really liked the game. 

 

Right now I'm giving DA:O yet another whilr... sort of not very committed one though. Whether I'll see it through or abandon it I don't know. Lots of different mods to spice things up, trying the Dalish mage origin (enabled by a mod). 

[Ghaleon]

You can cheat on the war table missions by moving whatever you play on clock forward.

Lots of other  good games out  also

Assassin's Creed  Syndicate( Pretty good way better than unity)

Until Dawn, Fallout 1, 2, 3, and New Vegas
Star wars  KOTOR 1 and 2
Jade  Empire.
Dishonored
Bioshock 1 2 and 3

Really depends on genre  you prefer but lots of good games, would need to know your preference to suggest  more

[Vegeta 77]

Witcher 2.dragon dogma,dark souls,bloodbornre,oblivion. And if you are really bored risen.

[Nixou]

In less than two weeks, Fallout 4 will release.

 

 

In less than two years, most glitches will have been ironed out. Until then, I'd advise refraining from touching that game

[mgagne]

Thank you all for the suggestions - and not one snide comment (almost ) so far.

 

I think the fatigue comes from how unbalanced the game is.  It would have made more sense to gate these checkpoints: complete the venatori missions before you can assault Adamant for instance.  But once you've walked the Fade you can go straight to the endgame.

 

Be that as it may, I forgot to mention that I quite loved Jade Empire and Nevewinter Nights.  Never tried those other suggestions but I've heard good, if frightening things about Dark Souls; it's so hard you want to pull your hair out - EVE grade hard I'm told.  But the feeling of accomplishment is incredible apparently. 

 

However an engaging story is more important to me than the satisfaction derived from beating game mechanics.  I'm not a console person so I dislike shooters and I loathe anything requiring precise & coordinated dexterity; many keyboards have ended in the recycling bin over the years whenever I've tried one of those...

 

Maybe Assassin's Creed - it has a historical setting after all.  Or I could go back to my beloved Crusader Kings 2.

[Heimdall]

Like old crpg type stuff? Maybe give Pillars of Eternity a try. I enjoyed it anyway.

[Ariella]

I'm surprised so many recommended Dark Souls. I tried both one and two, found the graphics off putting and just too stupidly hard.

I'd recommend Kingdoms of Amalur which I think came our for both 360 and PS3. A fun game, you should be able to find it used.

[Redemption2407]

I'm in the midst of the 4th playthrough and I confess this is getting *really* tedious.  I've been skipping whole areas now but the time gated war table missions are preventing me from rushing to the end game.  I'm not motivated to do 'Jaws of Hakkon' or 'The Descent' (which Ive done before) since I can craft better stuff myself and since I have all the schematics already anyway.  Alright, there's veil quartz in the Frostback basin but I'll be damned if I start farming - MMO style - just to have enough of it to outfit my people.  Thanks to a few hair/cosmetic mods Xenon's mirror is no longer accessible and besides - he doesn't even sell tier 4 mats other than the dragon stuff.  And the companions are starting to get on my nerves.

 

This feels just like a loved one whose flaws you're starting to find unavoidable to notice...

 

But ye gawds there's nothing else to play!

 

I've done DAO more times than I can count - DA2 once and that was enought;

I've done Skyrim to death and back - unmodded and modded to the gilt - I even wrote a 400 pages fan fic about it;

I've done Witcher 3 and while it *is* a great game it's not DA - we had Geralt' story - but it wasn't *our* story;

I have no interest in futuristic stuff so the ME series is out of the question;

I've tried Pillars of Eternity and it was a snore fest.

 

What else is there?

 

Old school stuff?  I've done BG - BG2 - IWD - several times over back in the day.

 

I suppose I want a world that is a viable alternative to the 'shiity one' we live in. 

Well if you dislike the Perfect Demi Godlike Pillars of Eternity perhaps you will also dislike the Godlike Neverwinter Nights 2. In this case I suggest modded DAO.
Divinity Original Sin Enhanced Edition, Wasteland 2 Director Cut and Shadowrun Hong Kong all marvelous are out but you don't seem to like good games.
As a last resort do what I did to Inquisition plan 60 (up until 80hours tops) hours playthroughs. Basically I choose the main quests in each map, quit exploring and wasting time with minor stuff (by now you should know how to do quests quickly), companion quests and DLCs. 60 hours is bearable for a DAI playthrough and it becomes really robotic after a time since game does not require you to think or even know what is happening on the screen, but since this game is as awful as a game can be robotic is great, I'm actually happy it pains a lot less. I will never have the joy of stopping each nanosecond to listen to dialogue and make amazing decisions like in DAO, or have the fun of building my character as in NWN2, but I can just watch my favorite series and play browser games in my notebook while I ignore what is happening in DAI while I keep mashing mouse button and 12345678 on keyboard.
If you don't like amazing games (Pillars of Eternity) you could try awful ones like Sword Coast Legends. The perfect mix of the worst in Diablo in Dragon Age.

[Ariella]

If you're into older stuff, the original Divinity is on GoG, and is quirky and fun. And lacking a need for high end computer graphics. I'd also recommend the Quest for Glory series, which is also in a bundle on Gog. Truly old school rpg with twisted humor a lot of fun. And in the fourth installment John Rhys Davis as the narrator and a very young Jen Hale.

[Il Divo]

Be that as it may, I forgot to mention that I quite loved Jade Empire and Nevewinter Nights.  Never tried those other suggestions but I've heard good, if frightening things about Dark Souls; it's so hard you want to pull your hair out - EVE grade hard I'm told.  But the feeling of accomplishment is incredible apparently. 

 

However an engaging story is more important to me than the satisfaction derived from beating game mechanics.  I'm not a console person so I dislike shooters and I loathe anything requiring precise & coordinated dexterity; many keyboards have ended in the recycling bin over the years whenever I've tried one of those...

 

Being honest, the difficulty of Dark Souls is kinda overstated. Admittedly, I tried to return it the exact same day I picked it up because of this exact reason, but I decided to give it one last shot. Once I realized the thrill of killing my first boss solo, the addiction took hold.

 

Regarding story, Dark Souls has a surprisingly complex, if unconventional, narrative. Most of the story is revealed through the environments, item/spell descriptions, and whatever small scraps of dialogue the npc's are willing to give you. It's more like archaeology, trying to work out how all the little bits and pieces fit together, what character is telling the truth, lying, etc. If you're interested mainly in Bioware style narratives, then admittedly it might not be that appealing.