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The_Mac23

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Anyone find its ending kind of sad? Harbinger just leaves it to its own mind to watch the final few seconds of its life before blowing to pieces.

If you watch this ending, it seems for a few seconds that the general did indeed have a mind of its own. You think it was empty like a husk? Or could there have possibly been something alive inside it?
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Why? The thing was repurposed by the reapers to do whatever. If anything , it was probably happy to not be under control anymore and glad to be blown to bits


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I felt bad for it, the poor giant flea. 
 


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Flaine1996

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Well harbringer the reaper controlling it made me want to kill him then when i saw how lost and confused it looked at the end... I felt bad :T



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The Collectors are just creepier and more intelligent husks. I don't think it felt anything. But who the hell knows. If it felt anything at all, death must have been release more than anything else after thousands of years of slavery and suffering. I find your compassion admirable, though.


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They didn't ask for the suffering the Reapers put them through. I agree. Death would have been a release, just as it was for Saren. But the Reapers were truly monstrous and I yearned to destroy them after seeing what they did to humans, protheans, collectors, etc. Thanks Vanilka!
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Strangely, he looks more insect-like than the other Collectors, who at least have a Prothean silhouette. The genetic alterations were, probably, far more extreme on him than on the other Collectors.
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The_Mac23

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Yeah, his was a sad story. I bet he was once like a Javik. Clearly had to be a very high ranking general in the times of the Protheans.
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I felt the same, At least you ended it's misery. I don't know how intelligent or self aware the collectors were, but honestly i think they were like roaches, They probably felt no pain or emotion of any kind. Just a husk, Jeez what a depressing thread :c



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The_Mac23

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I know, right? It's threads like these that should make us all the more bitter we never personally got to wreck Harbinger.
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Vanilka

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They didn't ask for the suffering the Reapers put them through. I agree. Death would have been a release, just as it was for Saren. But the Reapers were truly monstrous and I yearned to destroy them after seeing what they did to humans, protheans, collectors, etc. Thanks Vanilka!

 

Indeed. The Reapers' methods tell me everything I need to know about them: That they all must go down.


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If we take ME3 and even ME3 MP lore to consideration, while the Collectors 'don't have lives', they might have something in their genetic composition that could carry an ancestral memory, a legacy that the Collector General might have 'felt' before death.

 

So yes. Sad.


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Jeremiah12LGeek

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Collector general?

 

I hardly know 'er!

 

 

 

 

To my knowledge, I've never made that joke in the ME 2 forum, so now I can cross that one off of my bucket list.



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I felt the same, At least you ended it's misery. I don't know how intelligent or self aware the collectors were, but honestly i think they were like roaches, They probably felt no pain or emotion of any kind. Just a husk, Jeez what a depressing thread :c


How do you know that roaches don't feel pain and emotions? #stopjudging2k15

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How do you know that roaches don't feel pain and emotions? #stopjudging2k15

they are insects... :P



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I felt the same, At least you ended it's misery. I don't know how intelligent or self aware the collectors were, but honestly i think they were like roaches, They probably felt no pain or emotion of any kind. Just a husk, Jeez what a depressing thread :c

They certainly feel pain and emotions such as fear, or they wouldn't panic when caught on fire. If not, they'd respond to it the same way as geth, mechs and some (but not all) husk variants do by ignoring it.

Roaches are sentient as are all animals. They've a sensory body and a nervous system so can feel pain. Their emotions are likely much more rudimentary than a human's or even advanced nonsapient animals like mammals, though.

They're still creepy and must be squashed, though.


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I thought it was sad, but not because I think the collector general has any appreciable level of self-awareness left. It looking dumbly at the explosion doesn't mean anything, a cat would do that after waking up from a nap, but the fact of its existence and that it has been in Harbinger's thrall for the entirety of it only to be abandoned and have a few seconds of independent reaction before the end is sad enough on its own.



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how i look at it as a mercy kill, i am sure that he welcome death fully. Each Collector or Husk that I kill, it is a mercy kill. Releasing from its nightmare/slavery.



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It is canonically sad. They are now slaves, as your squad mates say in the first collector ship. And while EDI rebukes their further lamenting about the protheans by stating that they are so genetically rewritten that they can't be considered Protheans anymore, Bioware went ahead and wrote a dossier for awakened collector adept in ME3 Multi-player that is all about "remembering and honoring the past of its species," which means they still should be thought of as the descendents
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