go back to play silver/bronze
you can learn thing there by at least know how to do objective ,
where to hide and shoot
enemy spawn point ,
effective character build,
especially if you do missile on 1 phantom , geth prime
you won't learn thing by dying and let people revive you
My question is: I know Gold should be played only when you can be useful to the team, but a the HA do most damage with BEs, would it be advisable to try more Golds as this class now and then?
That's up to you, I don't have a problem with that, if you like playing human adept and you do a lot of damage with biotic explosion you may as well stick to that kit, and adjust to the difficulty with that kit until you get used to playing on gold.
I literally did just that, except I spammed the GI back then when I was moving up from silver to gold, with my trusty claymore.
The best advice, I can give when you start playing gold regularly, is to be on point with your kit, don't be afraid to use cover, abuse right hand advantage, or if it helps, you can be a little campy and funnel enemies into you or watch some youtube videos to see how other people play particular class like the human adept.
And if you plan on playing the human adept on gold more often, here's some tips I could give, if you didn't know already:
Spec Cluster Grenades without the extra grenade evolution and equip Grenade Capacity Gear V (giving you +5 grenades).
With 2 Cluster Grenades, you are going to run out all the time. The DA is still awesome without Cluster Grenades because of his great weapon damage, but if you have crappy weapons (as the OP does), you're going to need more grenades. I think a lot of people here forget what it was like to have a crap manifest.
Ultimately, 2 Cluster Grenades plus a biotic explosion is going to clear all the mooks in a Gold spawn if you hit it right, regardless of whether you take Rank 5B. The only difference Rank 5B is going to make is how much damage is done to whatever boss enemies were there (assuming they were the ones hit with Reave). I'd rather have 4-5 grenades than 2-3 in that situation. Having 2-3 grenades means that you have to race to ammo boxes all the time. But it's not like it's going to be bad, no matter what evo you choose.
After I made the question I realized that it was the item gear.
IanLai: First off I don't missile these. I missile if I can kill multiple bosses.
Second I'm not dying all the time anymore. In fact I was impressed in the last games how little I died.
I've read quite some a bit before I even started the game, so I didn't started playing thus completely unadvertised. Additionally I ask questions here and people are kind enough to help me.
Lastly, I'm a big God of War fan and I learned how to roll well in those games. Sometimes when I close to dead I just roll like mad until I find cover. Saved my life many times. About the spawn points, I already downloaded all of Fuent's images to my phone.
Volus, thank for the tips. I'll put them to use.
no offense
i don't know how you play anyway
may be you are 1 of the genius out of 10 thousands that can solo platinum when first play the game with avenger
more than 80% of the players in PUG that can't hold themselves on gold and wait for revive
they have no equipment, wrong set up etc , never use med gel
for me if i am host, i am fine with anyone, i can carry people
the worst case is i solo the whole platnium game.
off host to carry people is another story.
carry people is more difficult than solo
specific character build can be found easily here with search
actually correct set up , good build etc is independent of difficulties
that's why i ask you back to lower difficult to learn
i saw some of the post is character specific build , but idk what you want according to the topic
if you think you are good to play on gold. then no need to ask for tips , just play
Start Gold when you get a reasonably good character. Or just be awesome and play as a level one human which somehow you might be able to do.
Start Gold when you get a reasonably good character. Or just be awesome and play as a level one human which somehow you might be able to do.
I have the Human Adept, Drell Adept and Geth Jugg that are viable for Gold. The rest is not ready yet.
My first Gold was when I played as the Salarian Engineer with the Avenger. I just energy drained everything to recover my shields over and over again.
Ok, so from what I currently have, those are good candidates for Gols with new manifests:
- HA
- DA
- Jugg
- HE
- SE
- KSA
Other possibilities:
- HV
- AV
Thanks guys and gals!
My first Gold was when I played as the Salarian Engineer with the Avenger. I just energy drained everything to recover my shields over and over again.
HOLD THE LINE!!!
HOLD THE LINE!!!
Ok, so from what I currently have, those are good candidates for Gols with new manifests:
- HA
- DA
- Jugg
- HE
- SE
- KSA
Other possibilities:
- HV
- AV
Thanks guys and gals!
for me all characters are viable for gold
just enjoyable or not
the only type that i feel bad is volus . due to their lower shield and low POV
some character like korgan vanguard, warlord,some of the grenade spam class i also don't like to play because they are lack of technique
most of the weapons are good for gold. even some of them like raptor , incisor ,
i can due with them on gold with top score by proper setup of combo and consumable
only very few weapon that i totally find it not enjoyable , include all starter weapon .
you can use them on gold , but only find yourself get nothing to kill
DA imo is not easy for beginner to play on gold. you need to be very careful or you die faster than anyone .
and your most dangerous threat come from high rate of fire enemy like marauder , collector captain . especially i believe you won't have grenade capacity 5
i recommend you use him more on silver b4 move to gold
other class you have are fine for gold . especially KSA. good for beginner
i assume you know what is combo according to some of your post .
vanguard is also good , but not recommend for beginner . you can try it on gold. but don't always use biotic charge to nowhere .
especially you don't know the enemy spawn point. never charge them inside.charge when you know you can escape or kill all the things
again try it on silver . nothing harm on silver
nova vanguard, you can do it with common build. i have read about other thread you want to make shockwave nova. just no
not only because you are not easy to detonate . also shockwave can be buggy and not trigger properly especially off-host
do it ordinary with BC and nova. until you can handle yourself.
do it with 1 nova , not 2. so it drain half of your shield .you can stay alive and BC 1 nova> BC 1 nova.
btw i recommend you don't do some strange build as a beginner. you can do it later on
gold is not the place for testing build. do it on silver or bronze
try the most common build first , don't need to rush yourself to try everything at the beginning .relax and play.
if anyone tell you do no fitness build , don't do it at the moment and i don't recommend it unless you only play as host
the only type that i feel bad is volus . due to their lower shield and low POV
lol
for me all characters are viable for gold
just enjoyable or not
the only type that i feel bad is volus . due to their lower shield and low POV
some character like korgan vanguard, warlord,some of the grenade spam class i also don't like to play because they are lack of technique
most of the weapons are good for gold. even some of them like raptor , incisor ,
i can due with them on gold with top score by proper setup of combo and consumable
only very few weapon that i totally find it not enjoyable , include all starter weapon .
you can use them on gold , but only find yourself get nothing to kill
DA imo is not easy for beginner to play on gold. you need to be very careful or you die faster than anyone .
and your most dangerous threat come from high rate of fire enemy like marauder , collector captain . especially i believe you won't have grenade capacity 5
i recommend you use him more on silver b4 move to gold
other class you have are fine for gold . especially KSA. good for beginner
i assume you know what is combo according to some of your post .
vanguard is also good , but not recommend for beginner . you can try it on gold. but don't always use biotic charge to nowhere .
especially you don't know the enemy spawn point. never charge them inside.charge when you know you can escape or kill all the things
again try it on silver . nothing harm on silver
nova vanguard, you can do it with common build. i have read about other thread you want to make shockwave nova. just no
not only because you are not easy to detonate . also shockwave can be buggy and not trigger properly especially off-host
do it ordinary with BC and nova. until you can handle yourself.
do it with 1 nova , not 2. so it drain half of your shield .you can stay alive and BC 1 nova> BC 1 nova.
btw i recommend you don't do some strange build as a beginner. you can do it later on
gold is not the place for testing build. do it on silver or bronze
try the most common build first , don't need to rush yourself to try everything at the beginning .relax and play.
if anyone tell you do no fitness build , don't do it at the moment and i don't recommend it unless you only play as host
About weapons, I only have crappy weapons or heavy weapons. I have some rare weapons but they're all I to III.
My DA has 5 grenades because I specced it to max grenades and I have a Shocktrooper I.
Not sure what you mean by "nothing harm on Silver". Depending your kit, you can die on Silver if you're careless. Mainly with a vanguard. charge into a spawn point with 8 enemies... That should get you kill 
I already gave up on Shockwave with the HV.
And yes, I don't intend to try things out on Gold. Mainly because I don't be good gear/consumables yet. Most of what I have is lvl I.
I'm close to max out my Sentinel, meaning I'll have all classes at lvl 20. I don't intend to promote anyone right now, so that means I'll have a few classes to play on Gold. I'll probably stick more with the HA, I really liked him.
I like the humans because they actually ROLL to all directions. Some of them slide, make acrobatics. ROLLING reminds me of God of War and I rolled so many thousands and thousands of times on the game, playing on Very Hard.
Not sure what you mean by "nothing harm on Silver".
i think you get it , i mean you can do whatever build, whatever try on silver or bronze.
i think you get it , i mean you can do whatever build, whatever try on silver or bronze.
In that case, yes. I thought you meant Silver is so easy that you're kind of invincible and harmless
Which is not the case. You can fall if you're careless.
In that case, yes. I thought you meant Silver is so easy that you're kind of invincible and harmless
Which is not the case. You can fall if you're careless.
sure you will die if you careless
but you will not affect the succeed of the game just by you
and people don't need to use equipment on silver , so even fail, they lose nothing
another things i would like to remind you about jugg
this is a common mistake for many people, you may not necessary the one ,still worth to notice
some people they think this guy is invincible without any cyclonic(no difference if you go open anyway) move to open area and do heavy melee drain energy
they think the energy drain faster than enemy DPS. 100% will die when 2 banshees + 2 ravages .
what you expect when you die in this situation, no one can revive you or need at least 1 rocket.
1 jugg can't take cover , but you can still find something to block enemy attack , even 4 marauders can be deadly
2 don't rely on heavy melee too much , it is slow to kill and you can't move . you should rely on your weapon to do damage not heavy melee
i only do heavy melee when phantom approach. but i will not use heavy melee to kill her . instead drain a little part of her barrier then release and shoot her . this can make her can't block power while i can do fire explosion by my gun fire + shoulder missile
3 its ability shield also block friendly fire , it take damage from teammate . so don't place it in front of teammate that is shooting
4 do objectives when you are close. but ignore it when they are far.(activate device, escort , kill target) draw enemy away and stay alive
hacking still move to the position.
eg. map dagger . if you need to do escort on the lower side while you are on the upper side.
ignore the objective. but if the drone pass though your way, sure you do the objective
another things is try to land head shot , i know it is bull-sh it
but some weapon like avenger , GPR . they suck, but they are stable. you can land HS by align your cursor.
yes i know you are console which is suck for HS. but still suck weapon still have their way to survive
sure you will die if you careless
but you will not affect the succeed of the game just by you
and people don't need to use equipment on silver , so even fail, they lose nothing
another things i would like to remind you about jugg
this is a common mistake for many people, you may not necessary the one ,still worth to notice
some people they think this guy is invincible without any cyclonic(no difference if you go open anyway) move to open area and do heavy melee drain energy
they think the energy drain faster than enemy DPS. 100% will die when 2 banshees + 2 ravages .
what you expect when you die in this situation, no one can revive you or need at least 1 rocket.
1 jugg can't take cover , but you can still find something to block enemy attack , even 4 marauders can be deadly
2 don't rely on heavy melee too much , it is slow to kill and you can't move . you should rely on your weapon to do damage not heavy melee
3 its ability shield also block friendly fire , it take damage from teammate . so don't place it in front of teammate that is shooting
4 do objectives when you are close. but ignore it when they are far.(activate device, escort , kill target) draw enemy away and stay alive
hacking still move to the position.
eg. map dagger . if you need to do escort on the lower side while you are on the upper side.
ignore the objective. but if the drone pass though your way, sure you do the objective
Yeah, the Jugg is the most survivable character, but he's surely not invincible. I read a lot about that guy. Played it a few times too. He's actually better against bosses then against large groups of mooks.
On Silver, a Jugg can manage 3 bosses, but not 4. And on Gold, 2, I'd say.
The heavy melee is good to draw the attention of bosses to yourself, allowing your teammates to focus fire the bastard. But yeah, it doesn't deal that much damage.
Are you saying that hex Shield allows me to fire through it, but not my allies?? I didn't know that.
Yeah, the Jugg is the most survivable character, but he's surely not invincible. I read a lot about that guy. Played it a few times too. He's actually better against bosses then against large groups of mooks.
On Silver, a Jugg can manage 3 bosses, but not 4. And on Gold, 2, I'd say.
The heavy melee is good to draw the attention of bosses to yourself, allowing your teammates to focus fire the bastard. But yeah, it doesn't deal that much damage.
Are you saying that hex Shield allows me to fire through it, but not my allies?? I didn't know that.
your fire+ your teammate fire also damage the hex shield
you can try to shoot it. it disappear faster
Depending your kit, you can die on Silver if you're careless. Mainly with a vanguard. charge into a spawn point with 8 enemies... That should get you kill
you can try with nova guard when you are host
nova roll nova roll give him I-frame and he won't take damage
so even 8 enemies . you will not die
but this is not advise for beginner and off host
Depending your kit, you can die on Silver if you're careless. Mainly with a vanguard. charge into a spawn point with 8 enemies... That should get you kill
you can try with nova guard when you are host
nova roll nova roll give him I-frame and he won't take damage
so even 8 enemies . you will not die
but this is not advise for beginner and off host
I'm aware of nova cancelling, though I've never tried it rolling, only meleeing.
Why are you typingfor me all characters are viable for gold
just enjoyable or not
the only type that i feel bad is volus . due to their lower shield and low POV
some character like korgan vanguard, warlord,some of the grenade spam class i also don't like to play because they are lack of technique
most of the weapons are good for gold. even some of them like raptor , incisor ,
i can due with them on gold with top score by proper setup of combo and consumable
only very few weapon that i totally find it not enjoyable , include all starter weapon .
you can use them on gold , but only find yourself get nothing to kill
DA imo is not easy for beginner to play on gold. you need to be very careful or you die faster than anyone .
and your most dangerous threat come from high rate of fire enemy like marauder , collector captain . especially i believe you won't have grenade capacity 5
i recommend you use him more on silver b4 move to gold
other class you have are fine for gold . especially KSA. good for beginner
i assume you know what is combo according to some of your post .
vanguard is also good , but not recommend for beginner . you can try it on gold. but don't always use biotic charge to nowhere .
especially you don't know the enemy spawn point. never charge them inside.charge when you know you can escape or kill all the things
again try it on silver . nothing harm on silver
nova vanguard, you can do it with common build. i have read about other thread you want to make shockwave nova. just no
not only because you are not easy to detonate . also shockwave can be buggy and not trigger properly especially off-host
do it ordinary with BC and nova. until you can handle yourself.
do it with 1 nova , not 2. so it drain half of your shield .you can stay alive and BC 1 nova> BC 1 nova.
btw i recommend you don't do some strange build as a beginner. you can do it later on
gold is not the place for testing build. do it on silver or bronze
try the most common build first , don't need to rush yourself to try everything at the beginning .relax and play.
if anyone tell you do no fitness build , don't do it at the moment and i don't recommend it unless you only play as host
Yeah, the Jugg is the most survivable character, but he's surely not invincible. I read a lot about that guy. Played it a few times too. He's actually better against bosses then against large groups of mooks.
On Silver, a Jugg can manage 3 bosses, but not 4. And on Gold, 2, I'd say.
The heavy melee is good to draw the attention of bosses to yourself, allowing your teammates to focus fire the bastard. But yeah, it doesn't deal that much damage.
Are you saying that hex Shield allows me to fire through it, but not my allies?? I didn't know that.
A Jugg can manage any number of bosses on any level. You just need to learn how and when to use your Hex Shield and get really good at walking through levels backwards.
more than 80% of the players in PUG that can't hold themselves on gold and wait for revive
But 99% of PUGs don't use BSN and are completely unaware of important gameplay mechanics, strategic do's and don'ts, and so on. Simply having a little bit of know-how goes a long ways.
Pretty much. Even though I don't like the Volus and very rarely play them, I'd have to say they are one of the more tanky kits in MP because of shield boost and the temporary TC. Throw soft cover and Geth Scanner in the mix and you have something that will almost never die.lol
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