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Battle Of Denerim.. A Fool's Errand?


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Riordan should have gone with our Warden's party instead of trying to fight archy himself.


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Riordan should have gone with our Warden's party instead of trying to fight archy himself.

Would have worked out MUCH better
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Riordan should have gone with our Warden's party instead of trying to fight archy himself.

 

 

Would have worked out MUCH better

 


If he didn't go after the AD solo it wouldn't have been forced to land at Drakon. His sacrifice created the opportunity for The Warden to end the Blight.


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Riordan should have gone with our Warden's party instead of trying to fight archy himself.

Not only that,the stupid thing was lose time by march on redclieffe first and then return to Denerim



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If he didn't go after the AD solo it wouldn't have been forced to land at Drakon. His sacrifice created the opportunity for The Warden to end the Blight.

 

I'm unsure about this,the archdemon would have probably wounded eventually by some arrow or  balista attack and another opportunity could have  been created,there was no need for his foolish kamikaze attack,which ultimatly was just a way to force the sacrfice of someone of the party.



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Aren,I agree his solo attack was foolhardy at best and could have caused the defeat of Denerim since the 'Army' was weak and couldn't last long against the horde-that's by his word as well as Sten and Oghren  thoughts.

 

I never bought his story about all three wardens being in a group would alert the AD after all in the past blights the Greys attacked in AD in large numbers.  

 

DA:O reeks of a suicide mission. Lady Luck, Andraste and the Maker must have smiled on our pitifully small group though out the game.



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I'm unsure about this,the archdemon would have probably wounded eventually by some arrow or  balista attack and another opportunity could have  been created,there was no need for his foolish kamikaze attack,which ultimatly was just a way to force the sacrfice of someone of the party.

 

I disagree, but there is no proof that your idea is incorrect.



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Yes, it was a fool's errand. There was no way our forces could win.

 

But remember, the goal was not to win the battle for Denerim. The goal was for the soldiers to clear a path for the Wardens so they could reach the Archdemon.


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Yes, it was a fool's errand. There was no way our forces could win.

 

But remember, the goal was not to win the battle for Denerim. The goal was for the soldiers to clear a path for the Wardens so they could reach the Archdemon.

Had Loghain allowed the Orlesian Greys to enter the country instead of turning them back at the boarder there would have been no need for the Battle of Denerim. The Ferelden Army would have been intact instead of being wasted in a needless civil war.

 

I suspect the battle would had taken place at or near Redcliff or Lothering.



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Had Loghain allowed the Orlesian Greys to enter the country instead of turning them back at the boarder there would have been no need for the Battle of Denerim. The Ferelden Army would have been intact instead of being wasted in a needless civil war.

 

I suspect the battle would had taken place at or near Redcliff or Lothering.

 

And then the chevaliers would have marched in Ferelden and a new Orlesian occupation would have begun.

 

After the battle was finished, who would tell the chevaliers to march back to Orlais? And who guarantees they would listen?

 

Seeing as how this is exactly how Orlais conquered numerous other nations in the past - such as Nevarra and the Anderfels -, using the Blight as an excuse to move Wardens to other nations escorted by the Orlesian army, Loghain was right not to let them come in the first place.

 

Or,you know, he could just sacrifice his entire army to save Cailan and see the king marry Celene, who would then take over Ferelden through marriage.

 

Take your pick. 



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My pick is easy.. Allow the Greys into Ferelden and end the blight.

 

The Wardens swears no fealty to any king or  country. The wardens main goal is to fight Darkspawn and end blights. The real threat was where the blight would head next should Ferelden fall and thanks to Loghain it almost did. The blight would have not stop within Ferelden as proved in the DA book 'The Last Flight' it would have spread to other countries as blight history also proved..

 

Loghain's hate for the Orlesians and his continual denial of the blight  blinded him to the real threat.



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My pick is easy.. Allow the Greys into Ferelden and end the blight.

 

The Wardens swears no fealty to any king or  country. The wardens main goal is to fight Darkspawn and end blights. The real threat was where the blight would head next should Ferelden fall and thanks to Loghain it almost did. The blight would have not stop within Ferelden as proved in the DA book 'The Last Flight' it would have spread to other countries as blight history also proved..

 

Loghain's hate for the Orlesians and his continual denial of the blight  blinded him to the real threat.

 

Or maybe the betrayal of the Wardens that nearly resulted in Maric's untimely death in The Calling gave Loghain good cause not to trust the Order.

 

I still don't swallow Genevieve's excuse to go looking for her brother in the Deep Roads as a valid reason for forging an alliance with a rogue darkspawn that can talk and a mage that can control the taint.



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Or maybe the betrayal of the Wardens that nearly resulted in Maric's untimely death in The Calling gave Loghain good cause not to trust the Order.

 

I still don't swallow Genevieve's excuse to go looking for her brother in the Deep Roads as a valid reason for forging an alliance with a rogue darkspawn that can talk and a mage that can control the taint.

 

Meric did what he wanted and he knew the danger.. IMHO Maric was more of a adventurer then King but, without that trip there would be no Alistair.

 

I agree. Genevieve's excuse was weak since all Wardens face the calling and  the alliance is highly questible.