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[Heimdall]

No, Hawke is enjoying a pleasant retirement in Kirkwall with her elfy waifu.

 

And she already faces the eternally frustrating task of turning the Bone Pit into a productive source of income.

[KaiserShep]

No, Hawke is enjoying a pleasant retirement in Kirkwall with her elfy waifu.
 
And she already faces the eternally frustrating task of turning the Bone Pit into a productive source of income.

I like to think that my Hawke turned the Bone Pit into an attraction for adventurous warriors. Pay a sovereign to test your mettle against the perils of the mine.

[Jaison1986]

No, Hawke is enjoying a pleasant retirement in Kirkwall with her elfy waifu.

 

And she already faces the eternally frustrating task of turning the Bone Pit into a productive source of income.

 

I'm somewhat disappointed Hawke didn't tried to sell the bone pit to the Inquisitor. 

[GoldenGail3]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I DONT WANT TO PLAY AS SOMEONE WITH A SET BACKGROUND!

[berelinde]

You needn't worry. They might do "optional" with side quests, romances, or follower recruitment, but something as major as the protagonist of the game will always be defined. Not "fixed" or "set" in the sense that Geralt is the Witcher or The Nameless One is the protagonist of Planescape: Torment, but something as big as "this individual was the protagonist of an entire other game"? They're never going to leave that to player whim.

[Heimdall]

I like to think that my Hawke turned the Bone Pit into an attraction for adventurous warriors. Pay a sovereign to test your mettle against the perils of the mine.

Maybe that's how she recruits guards for the miners 

[Ariella]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I DONT WANT TO PLAY AS SOMEONE WITH A SET BACKGROUND!

Uhm... technically speaking all the characters have set backgrounds. Yeah, in Origins you got to pick, unless you were a mage, but they were set.

DAI is actually the least set of all of them three sentences.

That being said, it'd be fun. And a nice fanfic but nah. I'm already having enough problems with those screaming for the IQ.

New PC each game. End of line.

[Abyss108]

None, Hawke has no reason to return. 

 

Inquisitor for DA4, to finish his/her Solas plot.

New protagonist for DA5.

[Technologica]

I want my Hawke to live happily ever after with his Anders, so nah.

[GoldenGail3]

Uhm... technically speaking all the characters have set backgrounds. Yeah, in Origins you got to pick, unless you were a mage, but they were set.DAI is actually the least set of all of them three sentences.That being said, it'd be fun. And a nice fanfic but nah. I'm already having enough problems with those screaming for the IQ.New PC each game. End of line.

No, DA2 was only game with one very set origin with a set class. DAO had no such thing. It had mutilply origins (it wasn't set). DAI had a ambigous Skyrim background coughs (WANNABE SKYRM FAIL!) coughs

[Ariella]

No, DA2 was only game with one very set origin with a set class. DAO had no such thing. It had mutilply origins (it wasn't set). DAI had a ambigous Skyrim background coughs (WANNABE SKYRM FAIL!) coughs

DA2 doesn't have a set class at all. The Origins are set backgrounds. You're Cousland or Amell or whatever. Yeah you get to pick one, but once you do, you don't get to dictate anything else about your character. Mom, Dad, etc are all provided for you. Thus set. And a mage doesn't even get to pick, human or elf, you're just in the Circle.

You think Bethesda came up with the idea of open ended backgrounds? And you do know we were going to get a set protagonist, but we got more races instead. How much do you want to bet that if we'd just had a human protagonist we'd have gotten more detail???

It's called trade off. If you want to get really detailed you have to limit certain variables. Hawke's origin and history are woven into the entire story. The Warden's family/situation gets mentioned and depending on your origin you come in contact with people from it. DAI deals with it in conversations and war table. But in DAI your mage can either be Circle, or Dalish, or an apostate for example rather than just a Circle mage. You can play Quanari this time.

Also claiming Skyrim has any detail in the character background is silly. There's none. You pick your name and race and that's it. It's not ambiguous it's non existent. Then again, if your character could actually have meaningful conversations with people in Skyrim, your background would matter.

[Cyrus Amell]

I would enjoy a setpiece where we play as Hawke, perhaps even as a tie in to our new protagonist's introduction or perhaps as something midway through the game. But I don't think Bioware will just go back to an old hero for a new game. It will depend on whether or not the facial data is actually transferable from DAI to DA4 than earlier, because I don't want to make Hawke's custom face a third time. This would also influence any cameo by our Inquisitor. 

[GoldenGail3]

DA2 doesn't have a set class at all. The Origins are set backgrounds. You're Cousland or Amell or whatever. Yeah you get to pick one, but once you do, you don't get to dictate anything else about your character. Mom, Dad, etc are all provided for you. Thus set. And a mage doesn't even get to pick, human or elf, you're just in the Circle.You think Bethesda came up with the idea of open ended backgrounds? And you do know we were going to get a set protagonist, but we got more races instead. How much do you want to bet that if we'd just had a human protagonist we'd have gotten more detail???It's called trade off. If you want to get really detailed you have to limit certain variables. Hawke's origin and history are woven into the entire story. The Warden's family/situation gets mentioned and depending on your origin you come in contact with people from it. DAI deals with it in conversations and war table. But in DAI your mage can either be Circle, or Dalish, or an apostate for example rather than just a Circle mage. You can play Quanari this time.Also claiming Skyrim has any detail in the character background is silly. There's none. You pick your name and race and that's it. It's not ambiguous it's non existent. Then again, if your character could actually have meaningful conversations with people in Skyrim, your background would matter.

Yes, it is ambigous actually. Skyrim has a ambigous background (in one of the DLCS you can dicuss your parents with the vampire lady that you save). And Hawke? You can only play as a human. A human that messes everything up even more. It's totally 100% set, you can't play anyone else besides Hawke, they don't have choices of who you can be. Origins has mutilply Origins, so it's not set, at all. You can be a Tabris, and Aeducan but with Hawke you can only be Hawke. That's a fixed, and set background where you can only be a human (of no other races). And you always start out in Lothering, fighting Darkspawn alongside your brother/sister. In DAO, at least you can start the game out differently. Yea, they are a set of a Origins, but Hawke? They're the queen/king of a set background.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

You think Bethesda came up with the idea of open ended backgrounds? And you do know we were going to get a set protagonist, but we got more races instead. How much do you want to bet that if we'd just had a human protagonist we'd have gotten more detail???

Actually when DAI was going to be human-only they had a few different backstories planned. When they added races, they incorporated those other backstories for use by the other races. Overall the backstory of the human protagonist was going to be the same depth before other races were added as after. 

[Ariella]

Yes, it is ambigous actually. Skyrim has a ambigous background (in one of the DLCS you can dicuss your parents with the vampire lady that you save). And Hawke? You can only play as a human. A human that messes everything up even more. It's totally 100% set, you can't play anyone else besides Hawke, they don't have choices of who you can be. Origins has mutilply Origins, so it's not set, at all. You can be a Tabris, and Aeducan but with Hawke you can only be Hawke. That's a fixed, and set background where you can only be a human (of no other races). And you always start out in Lothering, fighting Darkspawn alongside your brother/sister. In DAO, at least you can start the game out differently. Yea, they are a set of a Origins, but Hawke? They're the queen/king of a set background.

DLc, optional content added later, not in the base game. When you make your character. As I said, that's not ambiguous, it's nonexistent. Bethesda doesn't do that kind of character building in the TES games.

And the origins are set, they aren't as set as Hawke, but they are set, which is the point I'm trying to make. The more detailed they are, ie set they are, the more they can influence the story directly. However, the reverse is also true, the more ambiguous the history is, the more it gives the players a chance to build their own canon.

And Hawke a king? Only if he's in a Police song.

[GoldenGail3]

DLc, optional content added later, not in the base game. When you make your character. As I said, that's not ambiguous, it's nonexistent. Bethesda doesn't do that kind of character building in the TES games.And the origins are set, they aren't as set as Hawke, but they are set, which is the point I'm trying to make. The more detailed they are, ie set they are, the more they can influence the story directly. However, the reverse is also true, the more ambiguous the history is, the more it gives the players a chance to build their own canon.And Hawke a king? Only if he's in a Police song.

But it's still there. It's still there though.... And I hate ambigous backgrounds in DA. They don't belong there (it should stay in Skryim... Really, it should stay with Bethesda, they do a good job at it). DA shouldn't be ME's Shepard (Hawke), or a Skryim Wanna be (like DAI is). It should go back to origins.

[Pensieve]

No. No Hawke. Hawke had his/her game and it sucked.

[ottffsse]

I might be on board with this if someone turned hawke after their misfortunes already into a nug. Bring back hawke as a nug!