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[Terminator Force]

^ What's wrong with Frostbite? (I haven't read anything up on it yet)

[Mgamerz]

It's pretty proprietary. Unlike Bethesda who releases tools they use to make the game.

[Caineghis2500]

We'll just have to see now won't we?

[Maz6687]

In theory, MEA MP should be extremely easy to get right. All you need to do is stick to the same formula and fine tune it hear and there. (Coming from a collectible card game background, I love the booster pack economy).

 

But I don't know, based on several trends, I have a bad feeling. Metal Gear Online 3 is a shell of MGO2, and a lot of people complain about the new SW Battlefront won't be as good as BF2. I wouldn't be surprised if Andromeda turned out to be more like DAMP, which doesn't make any sense since I imagine ME3 had a winning formula.

 

It will upset me if they keep the card system yet still charge for MP DLC. Basically, the whole point of the card system was to fund the MP allowing the luxury of free DLC.

[Mgamerz]

In theory, MEA MP should be extremely easy to get right.

[akots1]

^ What's wrong with Frostbite? (I haven't read anything up on it yet)

The game, Andromeda, is officially positioned by now as action RPG. Which might mean anything and if it is something even remotely resembling DAIMP, you'd be better off playing Torchlight 2. At least, Torchlight is not buggy and glitchy and does not crash randomly. And you can actually connect to the games and have fun. It is, however, somewhat ... superficial and certainly silly, great for little kids though. Similar to DAIMP. In either game, there is no true combat feeling, no drama, nothing. They are funny but I feel nothing playing them whereas Mass Effect MP is more ... involving or so to speak. It is certainly individual.

 

Frostbite is very proprietary as Mgamerz said. There are no modding tools and those who tried to mod it complain about it being messy and complicated.

 

The only person I know is actively trying to do something with FB3/DAIMP is Wavebend. Needless to say, it does not go well and he confessed it is not feasible to fix all bugs and repair broken netcode.

[Dalakaar]

 you'd be better off playing Torchlight 2.

I had a lot of fun with Torchlight 2 for a few months after a Diablo 3 run. Played D3 as a Crusader then went through as a tanky engineer. Very similar playstyles. Nothing remotely similar to ME3MP but was a fun filler.

 

Right now I'm stuck on Rebel Galaxy. Heard it described best as Firefly meets Freelancer.

 

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OT:

 

Yes, yes it can very wrong. But I hope it doesn't. This is a chance to really stretch out the franchise to what it was originally intended. Was told a while back that apparently ME1 was supposed to have around 50 sentient races and a lot more story to it but much of that conceptual stuff got the axe when budget crunch came.

[Salarian Master Race]

If anything, I would expect MEAMP to fail because it tries to be a Warframe clone, rather than building upon the existing foundation of ME3MP.

 

I expect this, but would like to be pleasantly surprised after all

[Mgamerz]

WarrantyVoider (best ME3 hacker) is working on DAI but I haven't followed anything. I've seen few tools he made but idk if he made any progress.

[Pheabus2009]

I guess op haven't played much DAIMP , actually ME:AMP can get a lot of things wrong if Bioware doesn't make SUBSTANTIAL improvement.

The netcode (and the region-lock resulted from that), the bugs, mod-unfriendly engine, stats farming and even worse RNG drop rate, I can make a long list and those things have a high chance to return in MEAMP.

And you guys above didn't even mention a.i., among the factors that make ME3MP so fun, one of them is the enemy a.i., they take cover, they throw nades and try to corner the players, they act almost like semi-real human, and we all know Unreal Engine is notable for its robust a.i.. On the other hand, Frostbite enemy a.i. is utterly trash, they act like broken puppets and are simply not fun to fight.

[IanLai]

after reading a few post

 

so if they give you another stunlock  geth prime

double rocket shoot without looking at you

teleport syn-kill

850 damage of hand blast with DR flipping bit ch

laser shoot thought its ass without damage itself at the same time get soft cover penetration

etc

do you consider it success?

may be we need cheapness to make things good? idk

 

about DAMP

 

bioware make 1 fatal error

people love to spend money , not work to earn money

so no one like looting,  every one want to kill something and shopping

[Kenny Bania]

I guess op haven't played much DAIMP , actually ME:AMP can get a lot of things wrong if Bioware doesn't make SUBSTANTIAL improvement.

The netcode (and the region-lock resulted from that), the bugs, mod-unfriendly engine, stats farming and even worse RNG drop rate, I can make a long list and those things have a high chance to return in MEAMP.

 

We've got some of the same people working on it too, last I heard. There's a lot to be worried about.

[Operator m1]

a friend said that he was afraid Bioware might make the mistake to release an Andromeda MP

which is just a bad copy of ME 3.

 

I said that this would not be ANY problem for me.

 

Do not give them the OK to do this cop-out. They need to build, and improve off the foundation.

[TopTrog]

a friend said that he was afraid Bioware might make the mistake to release an Andromeda MP

which is just a bad copy of ME 3.

 

I said that this would not be ANY problem for me.

 

Because just imagine to get fresh maps, fresh characters, fresh weapons and gear, starting a new manifest.

Having a new player base that starts at "0".

 

And very importantly:  WEEKEND EVENTS and active support.

 

 

 

So basically Bioware cannot screw it up.    Can they ?????

Sure they can screw it up, but I am confident that they won´t. The developers should have a pretty good picture by now of what has worked and what has not and why. Keeping the simple basic formula and mechanics, adding fresh maps/characters/weapons and fixing the major well-known annoyances should do the trick for me .      

 

 

Not to mention, in case anyone forgot, EA owns Bioware. EA is literally the reapers when it comes to game developers.

Now it all makes sense . The RNG store was just a tool to communicate along the lines of "this hurts you" and "I know you feel this"  . 

[Pheabus2009]

We've got some of the same people working on it too, last I heard. There's a lot to be worried about.

Perhaps we need to make another thread in MEA section before it's too late... Maybe already too late:P

[Kenny Bania]

Perhaps we need to make another thread in MEA section before it's too late... Maybe already too late:P

 

 

I legitimately forgot that forum exists.

[Salarian Master Race]

Learn from their mistakes?  That's why they insisted DAMP was fine and permabanned people for saying otherwise.

 

Yeah, no worries.

[jerrmy13]

In theory, MEA MP should be extremely easy to get right.

>not using the jpg version

[Cryos_Feron]

 I wouldn't be surprised if Andromeda turned out to be more like DAMP, which doesn't make any sense since I imagine ME3 had a winning formula.

 

 

Wasn't DAI "Game of the Year" or something?

 

So, I am afraid for EA/Bioware it would make a lot of sense

 

How can a game that is so .....   be so successful anyway ? 

 

Edit: Don't bother, I can answer this question myself.

[Darth Volus]

Nope. If ME:A is just ME3 MP with new characters/maps/powers but retains the same old shitty netcode, the myriad of glitches, and the terrible RNG store I'm not going to sink any time into it no matter how fat and sexy the turians are. They don't necessarily need to majorly innovate the formula they have, they just need to make sure it works better. 

 

Besides if they listen to all the babbies and give fat Turians a dodge it'll be ruined IMO 

 

Not to mention, in case anyone forgot, EA owns Bioware. EA is literally the reapers when it comes to game developers.

 

You sure? 

 

 

I mean, just look at the fatness 

[TheTechnoTurian]

You sure? 

 

(snip) 

 

I mean, just look at the fatness 

 

What is he doing

 

tell that fat turian to get back in his fat turian armor 

[Darth Volus]

What is he doing

 

tell that fat turian to get back in his fat turian armor 

 

He says he won't, unless TTT promises to...ehem...play him in ME:A 

[TheShadyEngineer]

Wasn't DAI "Game of the Year" or something?

I think multiplayer had very little to do with that decision. The SP campaign was actually pretty good. For me at least.

[Mgamerz]

>not using the jpg version

jpeg version does not capture my expression fully.

 

If it was ME3MP with new chars/maps, I'd be okay with that, AS LONG AS IT GETS BETTER SUPPORT. The delay on the patches (over 2 DLCs!) for a small set of fixes was ridiculous, and it wasn't even a year. (Look at BF4). If MEA had something like the community test environment that BF4 has that would be excellent. Things like shockwave radius and tactical headshot should have been easy, 1 line fixes (since our decompiled code shows 1 line problems).

I don't feel like there was a lot of communication between bioware and the fans on MP, we were stuck in the dark for such long periods of time.

[Ashevajak]

I think multiplayer had very little to do with that decision. The SP campaign was actually pretty good. For me at least.

 

Yeah.  I enjoyed the SP, but the MP....

I tried to like it, and give it a decent go.  But the rubberbanding, glitches and ridiculous loot system made it totally unbearable.  And as a rule, I like Dragon Age more than Mass Effect (posting on DA boards nonwithstanding), so I was really excited for the MP.  It was a crushing disappointment after ME3MP.