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Golden Joystick Awards 2015 - DAI Nominated for 5 awards


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This news makes me very happy :D



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And Varric's chest hair. Scandalous!.

ROTFLOL Scandalous a 100 years ago maybe. Sounds like people are not getting out much. Some State have nude beaches. However, let's be honest some people are much better off keeping their clothes on. 

 

Where have you been?

 

Per the "free the nipple" movement that happened at Hampton Beach:

 

Nathan Searles, 30, of East Wakefield, arrived wearing his wife's bikini top while she went topless.
 
 
One hundred years ago men weren't allowed to expose their breasts and they managed to make that happen where they don't have to wear shirts. I think it's only fair. Our breasts are for breastfeeding and that shouldn't be a sexual thing. It's a natural thing,” said Searle's wife, Tracy."
 
 
Time to get out more.


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ROTFLOL Scandalous a 100 years ago maybe. Sounds like people are not getting out much. Some State have nude beaches. However, let's be honest some people are much better off keeping their clothes on. 

 

Where have you been?

 

Per the "free the nipple" movement that happened at Hampton Beach:

 

Nathan Searles, 30, of East Wakefield, arrived wearing his wife's bikini top while she went topless.
 
 
One hundred years ago men weren't allowed to expose their breasts and they managed to make that happen where they don't have to wear shirts. I think it's only fair. Our breasts are for breastfeeding and that shouldn't be a sexual thing. It's a natural thing,” said Searle's wife, Tracy."
 
 
Time to get out more.

 

I have so many mixed feelings on that particular 'movement'


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Why the need to bash a game? I like Witcher and Dragon Age yet i was no fan of Skyrim. I don't go around calling the game sh** or whatever. Is it so difficult to understand that people have different preferences? I can totally live with people not liking The Witcher, as it is there right to do so.


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ROTFLOL Scandalous a 100 years ago maybe. Sounds like people are not getting out much. Some State have nude beaches. However, let's be honest some people are much better off keeping their clothes on.

Where have you been?

Per the "free the nipple" movement that happened at Hampton Beach:

Nathan Searles, 30, of East Wakefield, arrived wearing his wife's bikini top while she went topless.


One hundred years ago men weren't allowed to expose their breasts and they managed to make that happen where they don't have to wear shirts. I think it's only fair. Our breasts are for breastfeeding and that shouldn't be a sexual thing. It's a natural thing,” said Searle's wife, Tracy."


Time to get out more.

Now i know how you know only teens play tw3. You no get? Ok you no get. I'm not offended by nudity in TW3 and you think I'm offended by that glorious chest hair? Who needs to go out now? You seem to be the only one who did not get it.

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Seriously? Every now and then I meet someone claiming how TW3 is "only porn" or "sexist" and I wish ESRB rating would include something like IQ requirement, or otherwise a test to make sure people dense enough to claim something like that don't experience products clearly far above their mental capacity.

 

Whining that TW3 is only about/its only selling point is "teen porn" is as dumb and generalizing as saying that DA series is only about "gay romances" or "pandering to SJWs". There's much more to both of those games, which is why they are currently considered the best and most praised RPGs of 2014 and 2015.

 

Also why is it always people who have clearly never played the game that moan the loudest? Come on.

Shockingly I think this is something that Glory would actually say. Now in my opinion? Its not really a surprise I do feel DAI could stand to take some things from the witcher 3 and I still hold the strong belief that releasing it on PS3 and xbox 360 was a mistake and held the game back. 


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Why the need to bash a game? I like Witcher and Dragon Age yet i was no fan of Skyrim. I don't go around calling the game sh** or whatever. Is it so difficult to understand that people have different preferences? I can totally live with people not liking The Witcher, as it is there right to do so.


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As it was said many times, 2014 was not as strong as a gear for gaming as 2015 is. Like I said, NO game this year will get 130+ goty awards cause the competition is too stiff. You just do not want to admit to that cause that would devalue you DICE award for DAI. You only want to bring validation to opinions that support your narrative and invalidate opinions that conflict with your narrative.


Its ok though. DAI is a game that represents what you want in a RPG so it onlg makes sense that you will defend it to its core. But just know this, DAI was an anomoly. It was what it was cause of many reasons that will be fixed when DAr roles around but you fail to grasp that as well. Example, DAI with limited cutscenes was as a result of Bioware wanting to add as much content as possible. However given the feedback, it is clear that people wanted quality and not quantity. However you actually believe that DA4 will continue the trend of limited cutscenes and a dull/blankstate protagonist when those were some of the many complaints over DAI but you ignore that cause you want to live under a rock and only believe your own opinions. You as well as that Sylvius guy....


One may be an anomaly; 130+ is fairly decisive. And the industry award makes it sweeter still.

Congrats to TW3 for the Golden Joystick. Too bad it's fans include those blinded by bias and prejudice.

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I have so many mixed feelings on that particular 'movement'

Naturally. Change does that. For me " Live and let live" as long as they don't force something on me. I wouldn't do it. I love sports. I need my top. The second reason is more an issue of professional image. No matter where you go in the world some images will not score points if you want to be taken seriously.

 

The second reason could be the most important. I traveled to Germany,Italy and South Korea before kids as an engineer and image is a major part of any society. If the beach is public, anyone can take camera shots. That image could end up everywhere around the world legally. That makes me camera shy.

 

If you are worried about teens, give them the whole scoop, and they may end up more conservative then yourself. My teens want a career with big money so they are very focused on the goal and camera shy. One already started College at 15. Likes debating with his professors and reads more news than my husband and I. 


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Eh, couldn't care less about awards especially awards where consumers vote. When that happens it turns into a popularity contest. Look at music awards where the fans vote. Mikey Cyrus, Justin Bieber, and One Direction win
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One may be an anomaly; 130+ is fairly decisive. And the industry award makes it sweeter still.

Congrats to TW3 for the Golden Joystick. Too bad it's fans include those blinded by bias and prejudice.

 

And what are they prejudice about? What do their bias represent?



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And what are they prejudice about? What do their bias represent?


For starters, that their opinion = fact. That 2014 was a weak year. That 130+ GOTY Awards are a fluke. That DAI was a critical failure. Etc.

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But they don't talk about the individual products. Not really. Unless you consider "best launch" to actually mean something. I don't know how to measure it against the Witcher. As for the reports, as long as EA is profitable in general, that's all that matters to the public or investors. The details are an internal concern. And I'm not saying that's necessarily bad.. it just makes talking about DAI's sales kind of pointless.

The only positive thing (to me) I'll say about this is that they've been doing whether it's good or bad news. At least they're not being selective.


Best "launch" is nebulous in that it's hard to say what counts as a "launch" window (first day sales? pre-orders? first week?) but the "best" claim isn't - we're all thinking units moved.

As for "profitable in general" that's not true. "Profitable" is actually the meaningless buzzword. A lot of factors matter, and all of them are predictive e.g., will investing in bonds yield a better return than EA stock. That EA makes money is irrelevant. If it wasn't profitable it would be insolvent, and that would be a different issue. A public company's performance is actually really hard to assess.
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This is from 2012 alone.
http://www.vgchartz....-sales-history/


That seems to count all sales up to 2002, by which point I think DAO was up to maybe 4 million units sold?

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Inquisition came out last year. Why is it up for 2015 awards?....
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Inquisition came out last year. Why is it up for 2015 awards?....


I think a lot of us are asking that. I'd guess the Joysticks have very weird elegibility rules.

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@Kroitz - Not sure if that's supposed to be a harmless joke or a slight insult, but either way, there is nothing "salty" about pointing out someone's childish intentions. One of those words I used wasn't even a curse, at least not to my understanding... (f.ap is bad). Anyway, I was rooting for Life is Strange, which had better storytelling in my opinion. Not at all surprised or mad that it lost the popularity contest.

 

My last post would seem aggressive towards hardcore witcher fans. I am not specifically calling anyone here one, but I do mean and believe in what I said. Yes, plenty of people loved the game for whatever reasons (visual design, soundtrack, etc.) but let's be honest here. Who plays a game for it's music and side quests? The gaming demographic is primarily made up of straight males (as is constantly screamed and asserted across this forum) mostly ranging from teen to young adults who are the majority who play these types of games. Witcher appeals to that audience and what they'd like; butt, boobs, women practically worshipping them, unlimited access to getting it on whenever the hell they want (the brothels may not be as huge as the romances, but knowing the character is having sex still gets people off). So among those types of fans, the majority, of course it would win the popularity contest / no brainer vote from them.

 

CDPR filmed a total of 16 hours of live sex acts for motion capture to implement in their game (nothing wrong with that) http://www.inquisitr...capture-acting/, but it says a lot about them and where their minds were when considering their target audience. The devs excuses quoted in the link are outright ridiculous considering how often they give Geralt the opportunity to screw around with other women (really sounds like he deeply cares for Yen). I understand players have choices, but if the devs were so keen on their claims, they wouldn't have given people the chance to alternate their story or ruin their own "fully fleshed, predefined character". So, selling sex? They definitely were, and they definitely picked a good market to sell their f.ap material to. Regardless, good on CDPR for being awarded for their work.


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Inquisition came out last year. Why is it up for 2015 awards?....


Joystick always have been Oct-Oct. Since dai came out november so it falls this year. Like FO4 will be in next year.

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For starters, that their opinion = fact. That 2014 was a weak year. That 130+ GOTY Awards are a fluke. That DAI was a critical failure. Etc.

 

If you compare 2014 to this year, yes 2014, was a weak year. I would not go that far and say DAI was a failure. I would however say they could have and should have done better.  DAI just did not feel like a Dragon Age game at all. They removed far too much just to meet the deadline. I could sit here for hours on end and write up everything wrong about the game, yet there are those who would dismiss it all simply because they refuse to believe a game given such high rewards cannot do no wrong.

 

The difference between Witcher 3 and DAI is: Witcher 3 was more for the adult gaming audience whereas DAI was more for the young teens. Throwing in a few swear words, showing off some boobs, does not make the game adult. What does make it adult is the stories that are told. Case in point the Baron quest.

 

Are Witcher 3 scenes considered porn? Uh no. I seen far worse on everyday T.V. Sure, CDRP may use sex as a means to promote their game. But who cares? Sex sells and has done so many years now. If there were no steamy romance scenes in Witcher 3, I'd still play it.

 

Many people don't like Witcher 3 and that is fine. Many people give DAI high praise. And that is fine too. We all have different tastes and opinions. 

 

While I am a bigger fan of Dragon Age over The Witcher, if I had voted, The Witcher would have gotten all my votes.


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@Kroitz - Not sure if that's supposed to be a harmless joke or a slight insult, but either way, there is nothing "salty" about pointing out someone's childish intentions. One of those words I used wasn't even a curse, at least not to my understanding... (f.ap is bad). Anyway, I was rooting for Life is Strange, which had better storytelling in my opinion. Not at all surprised or mad that it lost the popularity contest.

 

My last post would seem aggressive towards hardcore witcher fans. I am not specifically calling anyone here one, but I do mean and believe in what I said. Yes, plenty of people loved the game for whatever reasons (visual design, soundtrack, etc.) but let's be honest here. Who plays a game for it's music and side quests? The gaming demographic is primarily made up of straight males (as is constantly screamed and asserted across this forum) mostly ranging from teen to young adults who are the majority who play these types of games. Witcher appeals to that audience and what they'd like; butt, boobs, women practically worshipping them, unlimited access to getting it on whenever the hell they want (the brothels may not be as huge as the romances, but knowing the character is having sex still gets people off). So among those types of fans, the majority, of course it would win the popularity contest / no brainer vote from them.

 

CDPR filmed a total of 16 hours of live sex acts for motion capture to implement in their game (nothing wrong with that) http://www.inquisitr...capture-acting/, but it says a lot about them and where their minds were when considering their target audience. The devs excuses quoted in the link are outright ridiculous considering how often they give Geralt the opportunity to screw around with other women (really sounds like he deeply cares for Yen). I understand players have choices, but if the devs were so keen on their claims, they wouldn't have given people the chance to alternate their story or ruin their own "fully fleshed, predefined character". So, selling sex? They definitely were, and they definitely picked a good market to sell their f.ap material to. Regardless, good on CDPR for being awarded for their work.

 

Guess DA4 needs more brothels, that'll fix their chances for 2016.

 

For now the red baron sex-scene steals the best gaming moment 2015.



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@Kroitz - Not sure if that's supposed to be a harmless joke or a slight insult, but either way, there is nothing "salty" about pointing out someone's childish intentions. One of those words I used wasn't even a curse, at least not to my understanding... (f.ap is bad). Anyway, I was rooting for Life is Strange, which had better storytelling in my opinion. Not at all surprised or mad that it lost the popularity contest.

My last post would seem aggressive towards hardcore witcher fans. I am not specifically calling anyone here one, but I do mean and believe in what I said. Yes, plenty of people loved the game for whatever reasons (visual design, soundtrack, etc.) but let's be honest here. Who plays a game for it's music and side quests? The gaming demographic is primarily made up of straight males (as is constantly screamed and asserted across this forum) mostly ranging from teen to young adults who are the majority who play these types of games. Witcher appeals to that audience and what they'd like; butt, boobs, women practically worshipping them, unlimited access to getting it on whenever the hell they want (the brothels may not be as huge as the romances, but knowing the character is having sex still gets people off). So among those types of fans, the majority, of course it would win the popularity contest / no brainer vote from them.

CDPR filmed a total of 16 hours of live sex acts for motion capture to implement in their game (nothing wrong with that) http://www.inquisitr...capture-acting/, but it says a lot about them and where their minds were when considering their target audience. The devs excuses quoted in the link are outright ridiculous considering how often they give Geralt the opportunity to screw around with other women (really sounds like he deeply cares for Yen). I understand players have choices, but if the devs were so keen on their claims, they wouldn't have given people the chance to alternate their story or ruin their own "fully fleshed, predefined character". So, selling sex? They definitely were, and they definitely picked a good market to sell their f.ap material to. Regardless, good on CDPR for being awarded for their work.

Why play the witcher for that when they have Ride to Hell? Also, DAO ( you can screw every companions who would screw you and a threesome, ohh and random npcs as well) and DA2 has brothels and DAI is catering to all sexual orientations including bull's bdsm. Would you accuse bioware of selling sex too? Or the fact that those teen men could easily make a female toon in DAI to see their biggest girl on girl sexual fantasy action? Let us be fair here if you are capable of it. Sex is sex regardless of where and how you get there. Both games, you see people having it. While I hve not seen a single second of those 16 hrs sex scene in TW3 because I am not interested in sexing females even if my character is male, in DA world on the other hand I've had plenty. God knows how many times I've dragged Alistair to tent in every playthrough. Or got pinned up the wall by Fenris. Or barn actions with Blackwall. I'd add Solas too but the schmuck only wants me for my hand. What does that say?

Don't get me wrong, I still prefer bioware even though I love TW3, because I can make a character that's of my own gender and orientation. That's to say female and straight. I plunged into TW3 for the excellent reviews and was not disappointed.

For you to accuse people of liking the game mostly because they sell sex is an insult to me and others who genuinely loves it for the unadulterated presentation and stories it tells.

Like the Bloody Baron single handedly bagging the trophy without screwing anyone but his wife.

But... caŕry on :)
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If you compare 2014 to this year, yes 2014, was a weak year. I would not go that far and say DAI was a failure. I would however say they could have and should have done better.  DAI just did not feel like a Dragon Age game at all. They removed far too much just to meet the deadline. I could sit here for hours on end and write up everything wrong about the game, yet there are those who would dismiss it all simply because they refuse to believe a game given such high rewards cannot do no wrong.
 
The difference between Witcher 3 and DAI is: Witcher 3 was more for the adult gaming audience whereas DAI was more for the young teens. Throwing in a few swear words, showing off some boobs, does not make the game adult. What does make it adult is the stories that are told. Case in point the Baron quest.
 
Are Witcher 3 scenes considered porn? Uh no. I seen far worse on everyday T.V. Sure, CDRP may use sex as a means to promote their game. But who cares? Sex sells and has done so many years now. If there were no steamy romance scenes in Witcher 3, I'd still play it.
 
Many people don't like Witcher 3 and that is fine. Many people give DAI high praise. And that is fine too. We all have different tastes and opinions. 
 
While I am a bigger fan of Dragon Age over The Witcher, if I had voted, The Witcher would have gotten all my votes.


Am not aware of any game that is perfect. And 'feels' aside, that is once again an opinion; not fact.

TW3 has had as many patches as DAI; released it with hard coded control keys, lesser graphics than posted, and other bugs. Many are now fixed, but launch could have gone smoother.

And for this Baron quest I have heard so much about, thus far it seems to be about searching about for red spots and allowing banter to play out the supposed mystery. Toss in a cut-scene of said Baron, move him from downstairs to upstairs, and simply follow the Journal as it cues the next step. Though I have not seen it completed yet, thus far it is not so special.

And I have seen enough of cut-scenes that have to be done for every shopping run. Seems TW3 did not learn anything we did from DAO. And I much prefer to have the multiple dialogue choices in DAI than the usual couple seen for other titles. If one wants to play mini-games, TW3 has a popular one. But the best thing I have seen about it is that it is not mandatory.

Compare away, but this will not alter the fact that DAI has already won what TW3 hopes to win next.

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I just don't understand how 2014 was a weak year.

Dark Souls 2
Titanfall
Watch Dogs
Destiny
Shadow of Mordor ( swept the DICE awards ex for GotY. That went to Dragon Age)
Alien Isolation
Call of Duty Advanced Warfare
AC Unity
Grand Theft Auto 5


The last three came out the same month as DAI, GTA V was out the same day.

So we have releases from three huge franchises. Then games based on two extremely well known properties.

That alone should make it a strong year.
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For starters, that their opinion = fact. That 2014 was a weak year. That 130+ GOTY Awards are a fluke. That DAI was a critical failure. Etc.

Well the same can be said about the other side. That their opinion = fact. That 2014 was not a weak year. That 130+ GOTY Awards arent a fluke (as a result to being a weak year). That DAI is not a failure in the eyes of the consumers.

So it goes both ways.....

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I just don't understand how 2014 was a weak year.

Dark Souls 2
Titanfall
Watch Dogs
Destiny
Shadow of Mordor ( swept the DICE awards ex for GotY. That went to Dragon Age)
Alien Isolation
Call of Duty Advanced Warfare
AC Unity
Grand Theft Auto 5


The last three came out the same month as DAI, GTA V was out the same day.

So we have releases from three huge franchises. Then games based on two extremely well known properties.

That alone should make it a strong year.

It is a 'weak' year since DAI won many awards.


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