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[Ariella]

Plus, DAI was a while ago and gamers have the attention span of a fruit fly.

Gamers? I'd say the human race in general.

[DanielCofour]

No idea how Witcher 3 wasn't even be nominated for best audio.The  soundtrak is fantastic.  The Bloody Baron nomination for "best moment" was also strange considering it's a whole (long) questline, without any really outstanding moment.(the questline as a whole is great) Though there are other moments in the game, which would have deserved it, so at least the right game won. Not surprised Dragon Age didn't win anything or didn't even end in the top 3 for best game. 2015 was a year with many decent games and not full of mediocrity like 2014.

 

Yeah, the soundtrack in the Witcher is one the best I've heard in years(including movie soundtracks), and if the award category was "Best Soundtrack" it probably would've won. But it wasn't Best Soundtrack, it was "Best Audio". And sadly, the audio design overall is not that splendid: subpar effect audio, varying sound levels and all that.

[Heimdall]

Well the show is over! Unfortunately, DAI did not win any of the awards they were nominated for. After winning 130+ awards in 2014, you would think they would win something here. But they did get runner up to Witcher 3 in the category of Best Visual design!

Not really surprising at all, 2015 has been a year of high quality, highly anticipated titles.  DAI was awhile ago, and a gem in the sea of mediocrity that was most of the 2014 game lineup.  This time it was amidst a sea of newer gems.

 

Still some of the nominations are weird.  I would have voted for TW3 for best soundtrack, and using the whole baron questline instead of an actual moment like the other nominations seems unfair.  (The questline is phenomenal as a whole, but I don't think I can pick any particular standout moments)

[k177sh0t]

The music that was playing during "A Towerful of Mice" was quite moving/sad

 

*Spoiler* *Spoiler

[Majestic Jazz]

2015 has been a much stronger year overall for major game releases, so DAI was up against much stiffer competition than in the annual awards last year. None of the games it was up against for GotY last year (Bayonetta 2, Dark Souls 2, Shadow of Mordor, etc.) seem to have even gotten nominated for these awards. Plus, DAI was a while ago and gamers have the attention span of a fruit fly.

 

True, but come on, DAI swept 2014. You would think they would win something!? I always said that the only reason why DAI swept the 2014 GOTY awards was because it was a weak year and not because it was THAT great of a game, but people always countered that by saying that 2014 wasn't weak. I am just surprised that DAI didn't do better but not shocked that TW3 nearly swept the categories that they were nominated in.

[correctamundo]

Not really surprising at all, 2015 has been a year of high quality, highly anticipated titles.  DAI was awhile ago, and a gem in the sea of mediocrity that was most of the 2014 game lineup.  This time it was amidst a sea of newer gems.

 

Still some of the nominations are weird.  I would have voted for TW3 for best soundtrack, and using the whole baron questline instead of an actual moment like the other nominations seems unfair.  (The questline is phenomenal as a whole, but I don't think I can pick any particular standout moments)

 

I kind of liked when the "baron" hung.

[Abyss108]

I'm not really surprised DA doesn't win any awards when nobody I know has even heard of it. I mention Skyrim or The Witcher or Mass Effect and everyone knows what I'm talking about, but for some reason people don't even know DA exists.

[Darkly Tranquil]

I'm not really surprised DA doesn't win any awards when nobody I know has even heard of it. I mention Skyrim or The Witcher or Mass Effect and everyone knows what I'm talking about, but for some reason people don't even know DA exists.

This also doesn't help. DA has a much lower profile than ME. None of my friends would know about DA except for my ranting about it.

[Cantina]

It does not surprise me DAI did not win any of these awards being up against Witcher 3.

 

2014 did not offer a lot of good games, which made it an easy win for DAI several times over. As soon as Witcher 3 was released - game over.

 

Witcher 3 was an amazing game. The Baron storyline highly deserves the reward. I consider it to be the most emotionally powerful and rememberable quest in any game I have played to date.

 

DAI is not a bad game. It just needed a lot more work. Instead of letting the current rewards they do have go to their heads. They should take notes on the success of Witcher 3.

 

IF DAI was released in 2015 they surely would have lost all their rewards to Witcher 3.

[IanPolaris]

It went about the way I thought it would.  As others have already mentioned DAI was not all that great a game, but 2014 was an exceptionally weak year, and DAI was an highly anticipated game that was shiny and new right at the end of 2014.  As a result, it got a ton of awards.  I have always felt that DAI getting GOTY was a joke and IMHO this result justifies that feeling.  It also confirms (at least in my mind) that when the shine started to wear off of DAI and then the better Witcher-3 came out in 2015, it was essentially game-over for DAI.

[Bfler]

No surprise. Witcher 3 is the game of the year 2015 and nobody cares two hoots about DA:I any more. Ori is a fantastic game, therefore it's good that it has also won something.

[Cantina]

It went about the way I thought it would.  As others have already mentioned DAI was not all that great a game, but 2014 was an exceptionally weak year, and DAI was an highly anticipated game that was shiny and new right at the end of 2014.  As a result, it got a ton of awards.  I have always felt that DAI getting GOTY was a joke and IMHO this result justifies that feeling.  It also confirms (at least in my mind) that when the shine started to wear off of DAI and then the better Witcher-3 came out in 2015, it was essentially game-over for DAI.

 

It begs me to wonder if that was Bioware's plan all along: get DAI out before PoE and W3. Otherwise their sales probably would not have been as good. 

 

Would explain the excessive amount of content cutting with DAI.

[Giantdeathrobot]

I'd put more stock in such things if it wasn't a poorly disguised popularity contest among the fringe of gamers who actually bother voting on stuff like that.

 

I actually don't think Inquisition flat-out deserves a win in any particular category, but let's be honest here, The Witcher won because it's hip and cool to like The Witcher now, just like Fallout 4 would have won if the contest took place in 1-2 months because then it would have been hip and cool to like Fallout 4. 

 

For myself, best visual design goes to Ori and the Blind Forest, absolutely no contest. Dragon Age and The Witcher have great graphics, but the sheer artistry of Ori trumps them both.

 

Best Storytelling, ehhh. I guess The Witcher, but I haven't played neither Life is Strange nor Tales from the Borderlands.

 

Audio design, don't rightly know. Witcher has a great soundtrack but I'd actually put Alien:Isolation here, it managed to have great sounds and atmospheric music which is highly important in this type of game, with Ori as a runner up.

 

Best gaming moment, I'd put In Your Heart Shall Burn vs the Botchling quest in TW3. Botchling probably wins by a bit.

 

Game of the year, I suppose tie between Dragon Age and The Witcher for me.

 

I also dislike that the awards are all about Oscar-esque categories, but nothing about the gameplay, which is the meat of a video game. Yes, I also love story and cutscenes and art design too, but gameplay that marries itself to those elements is what makes a game truly shine. I guess it's because gameplay is too nitty and gritty for an award that tries to be prestigious, but it's still very important and almost always ignored in those types of awards.

 

And in that department, while Dragon Age has a bit of a chance (albeit it doesn't win either), The Witcher loses to half the games on the list as far as I'm concerned. And the rest of the list is stuff like Tales from the Borderlands/Life is Strange and *shudders* Destiny.

[IanPolaris]

It begs me to wonder if that was Bioware's plan all along: get DAI out before PoE and W3. Otherwise their sales probably would not have been as good. 

 

Would explain the excessive amount of content cutting with DAI.

 

That is certainly possible.  We know for a fact that DA2 was rushed.

[Wulfram]

DAI was delayed for a year

[IanPolaris]

DAI was delayed for a year

 

Sure it was, but that doesn't mean what Cantina was speculating about wasn't true as well.  Apparently during that year, the team almost completely dismantled DAI and started over.  The DAI that emerged in 2014 was almost nothing like the DAI that was previewed in early 2013.  Really.  It's also true a LOT of stuff was cut from DAI which was supposed to include much of the cancelled Expansion Pack, "Exalted March" for DA2 [the Arbor Wilds mission is still a legacy of that, and IMHO it's pretty clear that Morrigan is a stand-in for Merrill there.]

[Morroian]

True, but come on, DAI swept 2014. You would think they would win something!? I always said that the only reason why DAI swept the 2014 GOTY awards was because it was a weak year and not because it was THAT great of a game, but people always countered that by saying that 2014 wasn't weak. 

 

Don't see why it just confirms how weak 2014 was for games.

 

I'm not really surprised DA doesn't win any awards when nobody I know has even heard of it. I mention Skyrim or The Witcher or Mass Effect and everyone knows what I'm talking about, but for some reason people don't even know DA exists.

 

Er they consistently trumpet winning 130 GOTY awards.

[Ariella]

It begs me to wonder if that was Bioware's plan all along: get DAI out before PoE and W3. Otherwise their sales probably would not have been as good. 
 
Would explain the excessive amount of content cutting with DAI.

Witcher 3 was moved back twice. It was supposed to come out around the same time, then it was pushed back to Feb then May. So unless you're claiming that Bioware convinced CDPR to hold Witcher back...

[Abyss108]

 

Er they consistently trumpet winning 130 GOTY awards.

 

OK? Various websites/awards shows/etc giving it awards don't mean the general public knows about the game. I've never met anyone who knows about it unless I introduced them to it. And these were all people who knew Mass Effect.

[Giantdeathrobot]

 

Sure it was, but that doesn't mean what Cantina was speculating about wasn't true as well.  Apparently during that year, the team almost completely dismantled DAI and started over.  The DAI that emerged in 2014 was almost nothing like the DAI that was previewed in early 2013.  Really.  It's also true a LOT of stuff was cut from DAI which was supposed to include much of the cancelled Expansion Pack, "Exalted March" for DA2 [the Arbor Wilds mission is still a legacy of that, and IMHO it's pretty clear that Morrigan is a stand-in for Merrill there.]

 

 

Witcher 3 also had loads of stuff cut, especially in Act 3. The Hunt was supposed to attack Novigrad, for one thing. 

 

Cut content is a natural part of game development. Especially when making those big, sprawling RPGs with dozens of quests and a hundred+ hour of content, sometimes some ideas don't pan out. It is the natural way of things, no different than an author trimming the fat in his novel.

 

And while it is true gameplay ideas from the 2013 leaked fottage didn't make it in Inquisition, Witcher 3 also looked nothing like its 2013 in-engine trailer at release either. The downgrade was quite significant, albeit understandable.

 

Fact is both games were delayed. Both games had cut content. Both games were different from early footage to some degree. 

[hoechlbear]

 

I actually don't think Inquisition flat-out deserves a win in any particular category, but let's be honest here, The Witcher won because it's hip and cool to like The Witcher now

 

Or maybe people just thought it was a damn good game? I never had any interest in playing TW before, but decided to give TW3 a chance after hearing all the reviews about how wonderful the story, worlds and characters were. I played it without having played the previous games and what I found in TW3 was exactly what I was looking for in DAI but was completely absent (I don't have to say what things were those because it has been said over and over again). Only after having played TW3 for the first time, it was when I went back and played the previous games and even read the books and now I consider myself as a TW fan too. TW3 will remain one of my top favorite games for years to come and I won't forget about it just because it won't be hip and cool anymore. Like me, there's probably a lot of people that experienced the same thing. People who didn't know TW existed, or weren't interested in it before or even didn't like the previous games and with TW3 that all changed because it's a pretty damn good game.

 

 

Well the show is over! Unfortunately, DAI did not win any of the awards they were nominated for. After winning 130+ awards in 2014, you would think they would win something here. But they did get runner up to Witcher 3 in the category of Best Visual design!

 

It makes you think, doesn't it? Had DAI been released in 2015, how many awards would've actually won then?

[Kroitz]

Spoiler

[dreamgazer]

Inquisition was released a full year ago and racked up last year's awards, Arkham ended up being wildly underwhelming, and no Fallout or Tomb Raider in sight. Unsurprising results.

[Giantdeathrobot]

 

 

 

Or maybe people just thought it was a damn good game? I never had any interest in playing TW before, but decided to give TW3 a chance after hearing all the reviews about how wonderful the story, worlds and characters were. I played it without having played the previous games and what I found in TW3 was exactly what I was looking for in DAI but was completely absent (I don't have to say what things were those because it has been said over and over again). Only after having played TW3 for the first time, it was when I went back and played the previous games and even read the books and now I consider myself as a TW fan too. TW3 will remain one of my top favorite games for years to come and I won't forget about it just because it won't be hip and cool anymore. Like me, there's probably a lot of people that experienced the same thing. People who didn't know TW existed, or weren't interested in it before or even didn't like the previous games and with TW3 that all changed because it's a pretty damn good game.

 

 

 

It makes you think, doesn't it? Had DAI been released in 2015, how many awards would've actually won then?

 

 

The (relatively) fringe amount of people that bother rating games on such awards liked the game, sure. 

 

But when folks talk about the lack of competition, well look at the other candidates (sans the GOTY category, where I'm surprised MGSV didn't win). Life is Strange? Alien Isolation? Telltale game? I'm saying nothing on the individual merit of those games, but in terms of AAA popularity they are below what big studios like CDPR and Bioware can achieve. Once in a blue moon an indie or small scale game gets the popularity to tackle the big boys (like Journey in 2013) but that's fairly rare. 

 

Thus, as I said, it's often a popularity contest among a specific demographic of people moreso than anything else I feel. I don't think TW3 is anywhere near a bad game, it's a very good one, but I personally consider the Golden Joystick awards and its like mostly fluff. Just like I do for the Golden Globes and Emmys and Oscars and all that. And yes, I would have said the same had Inquisition won awards.

[dreamgazer]

It makes you think, doesn't it? Had DAI been released in 2015, how many awards would've actually won then?

It makes me think what Witcher 3 would've been like, both technically and commercially, without the numerous delays it enjoyed into a dead release month.