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[massivegay]

if anyone out there loved me 1 like myself agrees that me2 is  mainstreamed post a reply......an amazing game that me1 was, although it needed some polish was a great space fairing rpg with platform and shooter elements to it. now all i seem to get is gears of effect. a stripped down class builiding system to an almost useless economy(no weapon and armor add ons) the customization is so limited to what you look like i expcected more then a dozen pieces of armor to interchange. The gun classes are to restricted what if i wanted to be an adept with an assult rifle i could in the first but not in me2 although i wouldnt be very proficent with it unless i equiped it after using it in a play though and getting the achievment ..... and thats a whole other story. in the first hour of play i had almost 20 achievments. the gunplay is much better along with the cover system altough trying to hurdle objects is a bit of a pain. the story so far is good although it seems like the only reason what hapens to shepard in the begining(no spoiler) is for a time filler to adavance the game whcih im sure there some better ideas out there than that. Event thoughthe mako was terrible and all planets had the same gravity and a million other quips about it the explortation was one of the fun things in me1 being in space and exploring the universe seeing whats out there. me2 you are so restricted in where you go and how you explore i like the probe mini game even though it is annoying to do it 30 times for a single planet. sorry for the rant but i am disapointed with this game and feel that bioware is really letting down fans of rpgs and more so mass effect fans. hopefully someone will read this high up and work to bring back me3 as an amazing rpg that it should and could be. if anyone agrees or disagrees post maybe im just seeing it wrong.

[ITSSEXYTIME]

ME1 was pretty damn mainstream itself.



ME2 is a radical difference and I have a lot to say about that, but it IS the better game.

[panos322]

QQ

[vertibird1]

nice username

[Crackseed]

Wow >_< *facepalm*

[hexaligned]

ME1 wasn't mainstream? Lawl.



Both are obviously developed for the twitch FPS consumers. I don't see why after playing the first one you would buy the second one expecting something other than a FPS with a good story.

[learningKnight]

I'm sick of these posts. Stop whining. If you don't like the game sell it back to gamestop or whatever. I don't care. It's an awesome game and I feel sorry for you if you don't enjoy it.

[StaticSilence]

Stanley Woooo, where are yoouuuuuu? drop the banhammer and lock this thread down- communist china style. The dissidents must be silenced! The internet morality must be maintained!

Modifié par StaticSilence, 28 janvier 2010 - 12:29 .

[VaguelyAware]

I love ME1... and I think ME2 improved on it in almost every way (aside from having to wear a helmet with any DLC armor).



*Better combat system

*More diversity in classes

*I don't have to spend 20 minutes converting 100 items into Omnigel every mission

*More diverse and colorful characters

*More customization with default armor

*No more barren planets to trek about

*Finally hired more architects to design buildings

[MMonkeyking]

...wow

[ITSSEXYTIME]

relhart wrote...

ME1 wasn't mainstream? Lawl.

Both are obviously developed for the twitch FPS consumers. I don't see why after playing the first one you would buy the second one expecting something other than a FPS with a good story.

Neither mass effect is a twitch shooter at all.

mass effect is a tactical third person shooter, the second one moreso with the new enemies and what not.  

[Juztinb42]

ME2 is very different from ME1, they are really two completely different games. I like them both for their different aspects.



ME1 was a much better RPG, while ME2 is a much better shooter.



ME2 is much more linear than ME1 was (no Mako) and there is really no exploration. That is a pretty bad part of nearly all of BioWare's games. That said, there are much fewer breaks in the action (action and combat are two different things) which, for the most part, is an improvement.



There are many more aspects of both games that separate ME2 from ME1 and don't necessarily make it better or worse (they just differentiate the games) but I won't get into all of them because I really feel like playing now.

[hawat333]

It's clear the people can't take any difference.

We just have to give them time to chill out and explore the true beauty of ME2.

Remember all those people crawling on ME1's boards after the release? OMG OMG IT'S NOT BALDUR'S GATE IN SPACE, RUN FER YER LIVES!!!



Well, there are things I miss. A lot. There are things, that shouldn't have been change. A lot of them. There are things, I'd made differently. Again, a lot of them.

But Mass Effect 2 is a better game than the first one. Don't forget to look upon all the improvements (and I'm not speaking about the combat here).

Or replay the first one and then jump into the second game. Then look at the storytelling, the world you're dropped into and the character progression, character depth.

You'll find that ME2 is as much (if not more) RPG in these aspects as the first one.

Those are the important things. Or do points really matter that lot? For some people certainly. But in my opnion, the character-driven, beautyful, sometimes touching storytelling is _everything_ when it comes to BioWare games.



Baldur's Gate 2 was -at least for me- the etalon of RPGs. It's a good old fashioned hardcore RPG. Mass Effect is something different. The first one was different, the second one is different, and yeah, the end of the story will be different. You accepted it long ago if you call yourself a Mass Effect fan.



And hey, people, let's accept the fact: Mass Effect 2 is not Mass Effect 1.

That's all. There are changes: some of them good, some of them... well, not so good.

But it drives the character-shaping (payed attention to all the little details your personal playthrough importing carries?), character-depth, storytelling to a whole another scale.



So kudos to BioWare for raising the game to another level.

[Murmillos]

wow.. I'm shocked that the OP didn't resort to EA/shooter-morons/COD-GoW-Halo idiots ruined the game.

[AlbertoAquilani]

This forum has truly gone to hell, I actually dread coming here. Stupid web addiction.

[Subject One]

AlbertoAquilani wrote...

This forum has truly gone to hell, I actually dread coming here. Stupid web addiction.

Yeah, I'm begging to get the game and have permission to write on the spoiler allowed forum.


Amost all complaints are written by people who have not officially registered the game. Strange coincidence, I guess

[tommythetomcat]

I think I need to keep this on speed dial for a few weaks

[KujaSeven]

learningKnight wrote...

I'm sick of these posts. Stop whining. If you don't like the game sell it back to gamestop or whatever. I don't care. It's an awesome game and I feel sorry for you if you don't enjoy it.

AMEN!

[WrexEffex]

Bioware created the Mass Effect universe. They can do whatever they want to it. Stop QQing.

[Theronyll Itholien]

KujaSeven wrote...

learningKnight wrote...

I'm sick of these posts. Stop whining. If you don't like the game sell it back to gamestop or whatever. I don't care. It's an awesome game and I feel sorry for you if you don't enjoy it.

AMEN!

Still, some things are worth critisizing because they basically completely REMOVED things that needed IMPROVEMENT in Mass Effect 1. Think inventory, Mako, overheating (replaced by a boring reloading system which makes you scurry for ammo clips during every fight), planet exploration.

It's not a crime to point out things BioWare did bad. They're not gods. Yes, Mass Effect 2 is a great game and I'm enjoying it. Doesn't mean it's perfect. Period.

As for the OP... your Wall of Text critted me for 20k. I'm dead. One-shotted. Couldn't read it.

[Daeion]

relhart wrote...

ME1 wasn't mainstream? Lawl.

Both are obviously developed for the twitch FPS consumers. I don't see why after playing the first one you would buy the second one expecting something other than a FPS with a good story.

How was the first one twitch based?  You aimed at your target and there was still a roll to see if you hit...

[BatarianBob]

Given EA's involvement, I'm actually surprised by how much Mass Effect hasn't been ruined.

Of course, I haven't finished it yet.  It could still pull a KOTOR 2.

[Daeion]

VaguelyAware wrote...

I love ME1... and I think ME2 improved on it in almost every way (aside from having to wear a helmet with any DLC armor).

*Better combat system
*More diversity in classes
*I don't have to spend 20 minutes converting 100 items into Omnigel every mission
*More diverse and colorful characters
*More customization with default armor
*No more barren planets to trek about
*Finally hired more architects to design buildings

Are you saying there's more diversity between classes or within classes?
Everyone agrees the old inventory system was bad but it could have easily been improved instead of removed.
Why do I need to be stuck simpoly moding the default armor?
Yes planet exploration was bad but once again could have been improved.

[TheBestClass]

I'm starting to think the only way to make some people happy would have been to just re-release ME1 again with better graphics and call it ME2.

[Daeion]

learningKnight wrote...

I'm sick of these posts. Stop whining. If you don't like the game sell it back to gamestop or whatever. I don't care. It's an awesome game and I feel sorry for you if you don't enjoy it.

can't sell a PC game back to Game Stop.

Not that I would, I'm still determined to have fun in ME2 and believe it will have just as great a story as the first one but there are a lot of things missing that I really enjoyed in ME1 and I'm guessing in the end I will prefer that one.

Modifié par Daeion, 28 janvier 2010 - 01:03 .