I look forward to Tevinter, but I am really hoping they do something similar as they did in DA:I. Maybe have the main mission area in Tevinter, but side quests in other regions, say - Nevarra. It would be really cool to have a mission that sends us to meet the Mortalitasi and search old tombs.
I just hope Fereldan can have some peace for awhile...I feel for them.
I am hoping that DA4 takes place in both Tevinter and The Anderfels. More than a few Warden story-lines have been side lined, foreshadowed and inched forward over the last games and not vaulting them forward by going to the home of the Wardens and Tevinter's neighbor directly to the West would be a huge wasted opportunity in my opinion.
I am hoping that DA4 takes place in both Tevinter and The Anderfels. More than a few Warden story-lines have been side lined, foreshadowed and inched forward over the last games and not vaulting them forward by going to the home of the Wardens and Tevinter's neighbor directly to the West would be a huge wasted opportunity in my opinion.
I, however, think that the growing Warden conflict in the Anderfels is too juicy not to be the main focus in another game. Not to say it couldn't happen, given that DA:I dealt with both the Orlesian Civil War and the Mage-Templar War at the same time, but I think the war with the Qunari, Solas' plans and any other mess Tevinter has (slave rebellions?) are more than enough for a single game. It isn't a wasted opportunity if Bioware devotes a whole game in the future to the Grey Warden plot instead of side-lining them (again) in a secondary subplot.
I, however, think that the growing Warden conflict in the Anderfels is too juicy not to be the main focus in another game. Not to say it couldn't happen, given that DA:I dealt with both the Orlesian Civil War and the Mage-Templar War at the same time, but I think the war with the Qunari, Solas' plans and any other mess Tevinter has (slave rebellions?) are more than enough for a single game. It isn't a wasted opportunity if Bioware devotes a whole game in the future to the Grey Warden plot instead of side-lining them (again) in a secondary subplot.
I want DA4 to be bigger than Inquisition. I don't see why it can't focus on all these areas. Focusing on The Wardens alone I think is a bad idea. Dragon Age has never settled on one aspect in the world and I would prefer it stay that way. Besides I think that tieing in the Wardens with Tevinter and Solas makes for an interesting and dynamic adventure, more so considering the overall theme, greater story and the ties that bind these seemingly different entities together.
I'm wary of splitting the game's focus so much. Doing so and handling it poorly was one of the problems of DAI. Between Solas, Tevinter, and the Qunari, I think they have enough on their plate.I want DA4 to be bigger than Inquisition. I don't see why it can't focus on all these areas. Focusing on The Wardens alone I think is a bad idea. Dragon Age has never settled on one aspect in the world and I would prefer it stay that way. Besides I think that tieing in the Wardens with Tevinter and Solas makes for an interesting and dynamic adventure, more so considering the overall theme, greater story and the ties that bind these seemingly different entities together.
I'm wary of splitting the game's focus so much. Doing so and handling it poorly was one of the problems of DAI. Between Solas, Tevinter, and the Qunari, I think they have enough on their plate.
Better to make the Wardens the focus of a DLC or wait until next game.
I disagree. I for one enjoyed the various topics explored in Inquisition. Sticking to only one or two things when we are aware of the varied and vibrant world would be boring and disappointing after a while. Also I am not suggesting we go to The Anderfels just because it is next door. I think there are more than a few areas in which the central story involving Solas, Ancient Elves, Tevinter, The Blight and the Qunari overlap and can move each other forward. Not acting on these hinted at and foreshadowed connections would truly be a waste.
I'm wary of splitting the game's focus so much. Doing so and handling it poorly was one of the problems of DAI. Between Solas, Tevinter, and the Qunari, I think they have enough on their plate.
Better to make the Wardens the focus of a DLC or wait until next game.
Yeah.
I'd rather not have "Oh dear I can finally visit Minrathous...small marketplace."
If they'd do Minrathous right you'd have a whole game right there.
But oh well Tevinter middle of nowhere places here I come!
The various topics we explored in Inquisition were very weakly handled. Mage-Templar issues were done within the first act. The Orlesian civil war barely got any screen time. The Wardens were the only ones I felt got sufficient buildup and payoff.I disagree. I for one enjoyed the various topics explored in Inquisition. Sticking to only one or two things when we are aware of the varied and vibrant world would be boring and disappointing after a while. Also I am not suggesting we go to The Anderfels just because it is next door. I think there are more than a few areas in which the central story involving Solas, Ancient Elves, Tevinter, The Blight and the Qunari overlap and can move each other forward. Not acting on these hinted at and foreshadowed connections would truly be a waste.
Going deep into mage territory means I get to kill a lot of them
+ Qunari
So I'm happy
I, however, think that the growing Warden conflict in the Anderfels is too juicy not to be the main focus in another game. Not to say it couldn't happen, given that DA:I dealt with both the Orlesian Civil War and the Mage-Templar War at the same time, but I think the war with the Qunari, Solas' plans and any other mess Tevinter has (slave rebellions?) are more than enough for a single game. It isn't a wasted opportunity if Bioware devotes a whole game in the future to the Grey Warden plot instead of side-lining them (again) in a secondary subplot.
Yep i ideally want another warden centric protagonist to focus on the Warden issues, rather than side lining them into a secondary aspect of a Tevinter game.
Have the next game deal with Tevinter and Qunari and progress Solas story.
I want DA4 to be bigger than Inquisition. I don't see why it can't focus on all these areas. Focusing on The Wardens alone I think is a bad idea. Dragon Age has never settled on one aspect in the world and I would prefer it stay that way. Besides I think that tieing in the Wardens with Tevinter and Solas makes for an interesting and dynamic adventure, more so considering the overall theme, greater story and the ties that bind these seemingly different entities together.
If you liked how DA:I handled it, I understand why you consider it a positive prospect. I, however, am more of Heimdall's opinion.
I fear the lack of focus. After the build-up in DA2 and the nuanced depiction of the conflict in Asunder, the resolution in DA:I was... lacking. A similar thing could be said of the Orlesian Civil War, whose causes war far better presented in The Masked Empire. Not to mention other things, like the fabled capital of the Orlesian empire reduced to a closed market (where's the Grand Cathedral? And the Imperial Palace? And the White Spire? The Academie des Chevaliers? The Grande Royeaux Theatre? The University?). I shudder when I think that Minrathous could be subjected to the same lackluster fate.
The perfect game would have time and resources to do everything. But we know the realities of game development.
The various topics we explored in Inquisition were very weakly handled. Mage-Templar issues were done within the first act. The Orlesian civil war barely got any screen time. The Wardens were the only ones I felt got sufficient buildup and payoff.
My hope is that they'll weave issues involving Qunari, Tevinter, Solas and dragons together seamlessly rather than trying to give everything an isolated segment like they did in Inquisition, but I think the Warden plot is just one too many.
I agree, those topics needed more love but I still feel as ignoring The Anderfels and the Wardens is missing a huge opportunity. Some areas in DA:I were botched ,that doesn't mean they will be again in future games. Flawed as they were, I'm glad some areas were touched on at all. It would not have been better had the Mage/Templar war or the War of the Lions been ignored completely. I'd prefer to have a flawed Anderfels than not one at all.
Not if it drags down the quality of the other areas by its inclusion.I'd prefer to have a flawed Anderfels than not one at all.
Not if it drags down the quality of the other areas by its inclusion.
The Warden issues are only tangentially related to anything else that's going on, they'll keep for another game or dedicated DLC.
A pre-DA4 DLC might be interesting putting the Grey Spawn on trial like they did in Trespasser with the Inquisition.
Seems dumb if they don't address that the Grey Spawn had been hiding at least one of the original darkspawn magisters of the Second Sin and the Orlesion Grey Spawn were helping that darkspawn to destroy Thedas.
Plus I'm still mad the Grey Spawn didn't help the Inquisition close the breech and we had to go to the rebel mages/pimplars.
I try to imagine what Orzammar or Kirkwall would look like under the Frostbite engine, and I weeeep because we'll probably never see it. But there's hope for Minrathous! And Vyrantium! And Qunandar!
We can only hope. At least Minrathous, please. It's the largest city in Thedas, and given the complaints about the lack of cities in DA:I, maybe Bioware will try to do it justice. The Juggernauts, the dwarven embassy, the Proving Grounds, the Circle...
Also, there's another thing Minrathous is famous for: sieges. Most of WoT's description of it is to explain why it has "the unique honor of having never been conquered". It has endured the darkspawn, Andraste's armies, Exalted Marches and previous Qunari invasions. Fitting for a city that draws inspiration from Constantinople. I'd be very disappointed if we don't see a siege in the game.*
* I'm not optimistic, but I'm not pessimistic either. In DA2 we never saw the Grand Tourney, and Val Royeaux was disappointing in DA:I, but Orlais provided its most typical delicacies: a palace, a ball, the Game and fashion combined with assassination attempts.
The map at the end of Trespasser seems to make it almost certain regardless of want.
indeed tbh I don't really care where we are in terms of the game so long as it's a good story
Yeah.
I'd rather not have "Oh dear I can finally visit Minrathous...small marketplace."
If they'd do Minrathous right you'd have a whole game right there.
But oh well Tevinter middle of nowhere places here I come!
let me guess? We'll probably have to choose who the next black devine will be, right? Probably either Dorian or whoever.
This whole choosing rulers is getting stale
let me guess? We'll probably have to choose who the next black devine will be, right? Probably either Dorian or whoever.
This whole choosing rulers is getting stale
Most likely. So far, DA protagonists have been fundamental in choosing the rulers of Ferelden, Orzammar and Orlais, and the White Divine. We'll probably choose either the next Black Divine or the Archon. Or maybe both. Unless our PC becomes the Archon or the Black Divine, that is.
I really want to buck this trend... Though it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility that we could support a more Lucerni dominated Magisterium (Or an empowered Publicanium.Most likely. So far, DA protagonists have been fundamental in choosing the rulers of Ferelden, Orzammar and Orlais, and the White Divine. We'll probably choose either the next Black Divine or the Archon. Or maybe both. Unless our PC becomes the Archon or the Black Divine, that is.
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