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[The_Mac23]

Either HoF or Hawke/Warden contact became a villain?

Think about it. Our HoF is out to stop the Calling... Something that no doubt will put him or her in harm's way and against beings more powerful than a mere mortal.

We leave either Hawke or the Warden contact in the Fade to face Nightmare alone. Could you see a scenario when a millennia old demon possesses the poor sod we leave behind? It'd be a fun twist

[Gervaise]

Well you never know with Bioware.    Don't think they'd do anything more with the Warden but the person left in the Fade is a possibility.   Not a main plot villain though, just a side quest type of thing.

[Abyss108]

Whilst I don't think Bioware would ever do this to a playable character, I do think it would be cool. I want to see my Hawke as a villain!

[Knight of Dane]

Nah, that would only be a little bit less predictable than Corypheus being the villain of Inquisition.

[Sunnie]

An RL analogy is in order here...

 

Probably about as awesome as finding out that Barack Obama is really a villain and crappy President, intent on ruining the country.

[robertmarilyn]

Not awesome 

[Guildmasterron]

Yes, RL politicians are not awesome and definitely deserve no mention in games or on these forums.

[Dai Grepher]

The idea of the Nightmare possessing the body of the one left behind in the Fade has been floated for a while now. I would like to see the possessed person return, and with knowledge specific to that character, and with characters related to that person. Like Nightmare Alistair would be an opponent of a romanced or friendly Hero of Ferelden. Loghain would be an enemy for Queen Anora or Ser Cauthrien to confront. Stroud would be fought by Hawke and others. Hawke would be fought by the possible surviving sibling and friends and possible romantic interest.

[The_Mac23]

Yeah, having Nightmare Hawke as a villain along with Grey Warden Carver or Bethany in your party... Now that would be a blast!

I'm one of those few who likes Carver. Especially if made into a Grey Warden.

[ThePhoenixKing]

Either HoF or Hawke/Warden contact became a villain?

Think about it. Our HoF is out to stop the Calling... Something that no doubt will put him or her in harm's way and against beings more powerful than a mere mortal.

We leave either Hawke or the Warden contact in the Fade to face Nightmare alone. Could you see a scenario when a millennia old demon possesses the poor sod we leave behind? It'd be a fun twist

 

In the immortal words of my forefathers, "$@&# that noise."

 

Having heroes and/or supporting characters get turned into villains in sequels for the sake of drama (or as TVTropes puts it "Sudden Sequel Heel Syndrome) is a bad idea. It's always a bad idea. Not only is it fundamentally lazy and blatantly manipulative, it never, ever works out; not with the Wardens in Inquisition, not with Kael'thas or Admiral Tolwyn or Anders or Rhinox or

Spoiler

Cortana in Halo 5

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Moreover, not only is possession/mind control really overdone at this point, of all the words I'd use to describe beloved, fan-favourite characters get arbitrarily pigeon-holed into becoming antagonists for the sake of short-term shock value, "fun" isn't the one I'd use. "Moronic", perhaps. "Mean-spirited", "short-sighted" and "disrespectful" might work too.

[Absafraginlootly]

The HoF coming back as a npc would be terrible, a villian npc, even more terrible.

 

But having whoever you left in the fade come back possessed could be fun.

[GoldenGail3]

NOOOOO! My HOF is way to on the light side of the force to go to Darkside. Go ask one of my HOF's, they made open to going to the Darkside, just not Cousland. She'll happy with the Lightside.

[Nefla]

Whilst I don't think Bioware would ever do this to a playable character, I do think it would be cool. I want to see my Hawke as a villain!

This generic focus test straight white guy with dark hair, stubble, and a tragic past who is certainly not the cheerful and humorous black woman I played in KotOR says hello.

[Regan_Cousland]

This generic focus test straight white guy with dark hair, stubble, and a tragic past who is certainly not the cheerful and humorous black woman I played in KotOR says hello.

 

*picture snip*

 

I know, right. That's like making Default Male Shepard (otherwise known as the Mighty Sheploo) the main villain of Mass Effect: Andromeda.

If BioWare are eager to top the disappointment they generated with the ending of ME3, they should definitely roll with that plan. lol

[nightscrawl]

No, I don't think that would be awesome at all.

[KaiserShep]

Newp.

[htisscrimbliv]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im kidding... that's a terrible idea

[Regan_Cousland]

It'd be a good idea if we were talking about a movie or novel, OP. But we're talking about an RPG.

 

Gamers would hate to see their past heroes butchered like that, I guarantee it. Fan blacklash would be more deadly than a "payback strike" from a Level 27 Cassandra ... against a nug ... on the casual difficulty setting. lol

[Abyss108]

This generic focus test straight white guy with dark hair, stubble, and a tragic past who is certainly not the cheerful and humorous black woman I played in KotOR says hello.

 

 

Ah.   Right, I had forgotten about that. 

I just started playing the Old Republic, so thats still something I have to look forward to.

 

Still, I think that case is slightly different, as that wasn't your character turning into a villain due to possession or something similar, that was Bioware picking a "canon" Revan to write their own (dumb) story about. 

[Nefla]

Ah.   Right, I had forgotten about that. 

I just started playing the Old Republic, so thats still something I have to look forward to.

 

Still, I think that case is slightly different, as that wasn't your character turning into a villain due to possession or something similar, that was Bioware picking a "canon" Revan to write their own (dumb) story about. 

I suppose, though to me having my character's existence erased and over written is just as bad.

[Nixou]

I wouldn't mind it personally, since when given the opportunity I tend to make characters who differ from me (for instance in my Worldstate the Inquisitor is a lot more conservative than me, Hawke's a lot more politically circumspect than me and the Warden is a nasty little brute who enjoys tormenting those who stand in her way), so finding a character whose values and temperaments aren't necessarily very similar to my own turning into an antagonist wouldn't bother me, so long as the timeskip between the moment the character was under my control and the moment of their comeback as a writers-controlled NPC was long enough to make any potential change in personality believable (hence I didn't mind my Eluvian-fixing, Merrill-romancing Hawke expressing animosity toward blood magic after five years spent on the run)...

 

The problem is that many people project themselves into the protagonists they shape, and for them, bringing back their characters as enemies will feel like a "I would NEVER do such and such" betrayal.

[Abyss108]

I suppose, though to me having my character's existence erased and over written is just as bad.

 

Oh, it's much worse to me.   One is events in game having an effect that I may/may not like on my character, the other is Bioware themselves telling me my character doesn't exist, but someone else's does.