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#76
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Everyone seems to like Calpernia, but I found her character pretty damn annoying, esp after the fight in Mythal's Temple. She gets to escape by seemingly committing suicide, but we all know she'll survive to be annoying another day for another PC. I prefer Samson because I got closure with his quest line and story. Calipernia's just some ugly tart with poor dental hygiene Bioware will try to make important in DA4. At the very least, I better get to complete her murder in DA4.


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I don't think a gap in your teeth is the result of poor dental hygiene. In some periods of history and in some cultures, it's considered an attractive trait.


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It's not. It's called diastema and is an inherited trait, not caused through poor hygiene. So you can ignore the ignorance of the previous poster.

I had a gap but it was closed with braces and a plate. My dad had a gap as did my grandmother.

In regard to one or the other, would love to have seen both but my bets on Calpernia being in DA4 - especially if we head to Tevinter.

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Slightly off topic: since we are probably going to Tevinter in the next game, what are the odds that Calpernia will return? Based on what we know about her, do you think she will support Dorian's and Maevaris Tilani's reformist group?

 

And does Samson have chance of surviving his red lyrium addiction?

Well, it never really shows Calpernia dying, just her going "I won't die to you!" and fall backwards into the abyss of who knows where. (Dragon Age has a reputation of bringing people back from the dead.) You can also convince her to leave, which reinforces that idea.



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Well, it never really shows Calpernia dying, just her going "I won't die to you!" and fall backwards into the abyss of who knows where. (Dragon Age has a reputation of bringing people back from the dead.) You can also convince her to leave, which reinforces that idea.

 

I really do hope this is the case, even when siding with rebel mages i still hope we may meet Calpernia in the next Dragon Age. Calpernia is just an amzing character who deserved more screen time, and i got to understand her even more when i read the short story "Paying the Ferryman". Not saying Samson is a bad character just that I really felt Calpernia was the superior of the two generals.


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#81
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I also have a sight biased reason for choosing the Templars too that I forgot to add earlier, besides my already biasedly preferring Calpernia for her amazing character. I absolutely love Ser Barris (and would romance him over Cullen any day!) and promoting him later in the game is just wonderful! Fiona does nothing. She's not even in the final battle, but Ser Barris is and I felt truly united with my allies.

Fiona fights with you personally in the Arbor Wilds, but she's up on top of the wall and hard to spot. You find her near where the two behemoths are fighting mages (all those mages, coincidentally, are Fiona's people). I've even had playthroughs where she shouted greetings to the Inquisitor as they made their way toward the temple doors.

 

All of the What Pride Has Wrought ally spawns are bugged, if it makes you feel any better. I know that Leliana is supposed to be there because she always says her line, but most of the time, there's no one standing on the wall where she's supposed to appear and the line comes from empty space. I've had Cullen fail to spawn before, and I've never seen Gaspard anywhere even if he's supposed to be there (he is, right?). I have never seen Ser Barris in that fight, although I'm told he's there somewhere. Maybe he's supposed to be near where Fiona spawns? I don't know because that spawn always bugs out.



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I'm biased since Samson has been one of my favorites since DA2. His story and downfall is a combination of many different things which can't be summarized by just saying he's weak/crazy/whatever and I personally find all these layers highly fascinating. In fact I think Samson personifies better than anyone how the Chantry/Templar Order can be toxic and harmful for both mages and templars. He witnessed and acknowledged it all: how it hammered fear into people’s skull, how it abused mages and how it used its’ Templars. 

For Samson was thrown out to the streets because he was the actual "good templar" able to see mages as people, was robbed out of everything he knew, and had to deal with his addiction completely on his own. Unlike Cullen who always had a safety-net of allies and support. Yet, despite being reduced to this homeless wreck starving for lyrium Samson still attempted to help mages. He went back to save Maddox. He believed that what the Chantry did to its’ Templars was unforgivable but what they did to Maddox was obscene (Joanna Berry: Paper & Steel). There's a lot of factors which drove him down this path.

 

However, like said before: his story arc spreads over two games and certain elements are made clear only if you read Paper & Steel for example. Calpernia's story is right there. Which kind of makes this a hard question. While I personally prefer Samson, Calpernia actually might work better in the context of Inquisition for she relates better to Corypheus who as the main villain of this game needs to be fleshed out as well. Samson's appearance can at first even elicit reactions like "Well, I guess they had to make someone a villain but.. why him?" To fully appreciate and understand his character, it pretty much relies on you to have the previous knowledge. That's painfully apparent when you read comments from people who have not played DA2. They pretty much just rely on Cullen's comments (which are not an objective way to look at Samson). 


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No offense to Calpernia fans, but to all those insisting that she will be a Companion in DA4, I see more signs against than for. With Dorian's Trespasser epilogue showing him forming a new reformation faction with Maevaris Tilani, a character previously established in the comics, Mae is more likely as the "Reform Tevinter" Companion. Patrick Weekes expressed interest in bringing more transgender characters to Dragon Age, even to the point of preferring to get real life transgendered actors to voice them, another point in Maevaris' favor. The Magekiller comic could also be building up Marius as a potential anti-magic Companion, and since he was an old friend of Calpernia's, any extra tidbits could be explored through him.

 

On the meta level, having two female Tevinter mages in the party, both of whom want to save their homeland from itself would just be redundant. Not near enough contrast for my taste. But Calpernia is more complex and radical, I hear you say. Well, on the surface Maevaris is the more moderate, but to date I haven't seen anything that Mae couldn't have secret terrorist revolutionary ties, whether she knows or not. More than likely Magister Tilani will be the "slow and safe" Tevinter reform Compaion, and the "violent overthrow" one will be a mundane like Marius, but you never know. Plus you have to consider the remaining mage slots; given Solas' plans one of them will have to be an Elf, and (if DA4 continues Inquitition's 3 Companions per class set up) at least one neutral one. Given how some of the writers wanted to implement Ketojan in DA2, maybe we'll finally get a Saarebas Companion.



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Unless she changes her veiws on a lot of things, Calpernia's version of reforming Tevinter is probably incompatible with Maevaris and Dorian's. 


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Unless she changes her veiws on a lot of things, Calpernia's version of reforming Tevinter is probably incompatible with Maevaris and Dorian's. 

 

Agreed. Her absolute sense of Tevinter superiority and her desire to destabilise and lay waste to the southern nations to strengthen her own puts her strongly at odds with them. She may be anti-slavery (though even then seemingly only in principle - her organisation in practice used numerous slaves!), but she's still an ardent imperialist and nationalist convinced that Tevinter supremacy is a necessity.


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#86
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Calpernia cause I wanna bang her ;)

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I don't like Calpernia only because it seems rather obvious Bioware has plans on making her appear in the DA4.

 

She's also the only one to have a short story about her past.

 

Still, I suppose she would make a rather interesting companion, especially since DA4 might be taking place in Tevinter. We'll never have a stereotypical magister as a companion, though her ideals are roughly gray enough to come close.



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Agree with Calpernia. Although I like both her and Samson.



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I prefer Samson.



#90
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Agree with Calpernia. Although I like both her and Samson.


I like Calpernia becuase I think the Templar Quest makes the most amount of sense ever. I did however, rectuantly make the Mage Quest my canon so i did experience both quest. But I pefer The Templar's though; easy to manage, quest aren't all about Cullens personal needs, Calpernia is a bonus, Sir Barris is the bomb who I massively fangirls over.... YEAH.