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the franchise have danger of extinction...the cause is the protagonist and story


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Ariella

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Alan, Yaroub,

I think you both have something, and I think the missing link here is in the old gods themselves.

A couple of things to think about:

Supposedly the old gods taught humans blood magic. A magic not connected to lyrium.

Dragon blood has some interesting properties.

The red lyrium idol and the thaig it came from predate the magisters entrance to the fade.

Maybe we should be asking why the darkspawn seem programmed to seek out the old god, if it isn't the punishment of the Maker? Maybe it's an attack not a punishment?

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I'm starting to have flashes of Shadowrun...
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How many threads about "The Warden should be the protagonist in the next DA" have you made?

 

And people wonder why I wish the writers just killed the HoF for good


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UH-OH! THE FRANCHISE HAVE STARTED TO MOVE!



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Since when does doge have a BSN account?

Doge is a gaming legend.

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Let

 

It 

 

GO

 

Did I miss something? The poster sounds new to the site. Or did they keep posting about this subject?



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Did I miss something? The poster sounds new to the site. Or did they keep posting about this subject?

 

Every thread they make


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It's so subjective. I have played all three Dragon Age games and DAI is my favourite. Best characters (Dorian, Iron Bull, Cassandra etc), story, combat, graphics of course, detail and length. I enjoyed the inquisitor protagonist just fine too. My only gripe (which is personal and again subjective) is that Desire Demons were not present in their usual form. They are my favourite enemies and I enjoyed dialogue with them. I am also a sucker for the succubus type monster.

 

So yeah, I love DAI in short :)


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Ariella

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Did I miss something? The poster sounds new to the site. Or did they keep posting about this subject?


Keep posting. The last was yelling about how the hof should have been the one dealing with Descent, not the IQ.

There may have been more, I lose track. :)

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"Deal. With. It." ~Cassandra Pentaghast

 

Sorry, have to do this :P

 

Seriously now. In Dragon Age franchise, we have three different heroes, three different stories and they seems really unrelated sometimes. Especially Hero of Ferelden in DA:I, totally wasted. Choices doesn't really matters, cause they don't have bigger impact on story (DA:O choices in DA2 and DA:O/DA2 choices in DA:I). Usually, it's "meet Alistair or not" stuff or "extra mini quest or not" or "Hero of Ferelden/Hawke was here".

 

It's the same with Mass Effect franchise - but there illusion is better, it really seems like your choices matters, cause you're only Shepard for three games.

 

Yeah, it sucks. Deal with it and enjoy the game (or not).


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I have no idea what the first post in this thread is trying to say (a common language might have helped), but whatever it was, it seems that the OP is leaving, so in theory, I won't have to read it again.



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i think the franchise lose the way,i hope they think in back the ost od DAO and the hero of ferelden/warden orleasian in next dragon age....

 

please stop with conflicto minors of qunari war,mage,templar etc...

 

 

the franchise need finish with the calling of the hero of ferelden/warden orleasian.



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Hanako Ikezawa

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i think the franchise lose the way,i hope they think in back the ost od DAO and the hero of ferelden/warden orleasian in next dragon age....

 

please stop with conflicto minors of qunari war,mage,templar etc...

 

 

the franchise need finish with the calling of the hero of ferelden/warden orleasian.

Except the Warden can be dead in Origins, so how can they continue the story of someone who can die. The only way would be to make the Dark Ritual canon and that will anger a lot of people. 


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Another one of these.

 

 

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if the warden die in origins have the replace warden orlesian of Awakening expansión.

 

simple and nice solution baby.



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Simpler and nicer solution: Let it go.


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Hanako Ikezawa

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if the warden die in origins have the replace warden orlesian of Awakening expansión.

 

simple and nice solution baby.

That's not nearly as simple a solution as you think. The story would have to be radically different to account for the different protagonists. For an expansion pack it is possible, but not for an entire game. At least one that has the quality you think Origins has.



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is posible they only need créate one origin more of the warden orlesian and solve the situation...the warden never talk of the specific origin if you play with other races...is a easy solution...

 

hero of ferelden story or warden orlesian and we start same of DAO but in determinate momento the story is combined.



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Hanako Ikezawa

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is posible they only need créate one origin more of the warden orlesian and solve the situation...the warden never talk of the specific origin if you play with other races...is a easy solution...

 

hero of ferelden story or warden orlesian and we start same of DAO but in determinate momento the story is combined.

So you want the protagonist of Dragon Age: Origins to never speak about their origins or have them come up? That was the entire point of having origins in the first place. 



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they need add a option for play with voice or not and problema solved..they use different voices for inquisitor why not for hero of ferelden or add a option for not voice...

 

all problems of life have solution this is my visión.



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I presume he's asking for a whole bunch of extra dialogue if you're playing the DA:O warden, and a whole bunch of nothing if you're playing the Orlesian. Or is it a bunch of extra dialogue for both of them?

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simple they add extra dialog with a lore for orlesian in the new game and problema solved..

 

i think they use the excuse of complicated...

 

 

i have a example of my i am very ugly(microcephaly,i born with forcep)big noise,etc and is complicated for my each time that i exit of my house the people say jokes for my face they have attitude hostile but i need win and solve the situation ignoring people and in few time i have a surgery....

 

 

solve a situation of a game is more easy of others...



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if the warden die in origins have the replace warden orlesian of Awakening expansión.
 
simple and nice solution baby.


No, it's not. This has been explained to you about 100 times now.

The Orlesian Warden Commander is a completely different character with a completely different history than the Hero of Ferelden. This should be obvious. It should also be obvious that the two characters would be reacted to differently because one fought the archdemon and one didn't.

As for voices, it would never work with the paraphrase system as it is, and they aren't going to change it to include one character, no matter how you lobby.

I admit to having very very little experience with programming, but even I can figure out all the stuff you're asking for would take up a ton of resources.

The HoF is not coming back, Navotelli, move on.
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they need add a option for play with voice or not and problema solved..they use different voices for inquisitor why not for hero of ferelden or add a option for not voice...

 

all problems of life have solution this is my visión.

That leads to yet another major problem. Bioware giving a voice to a protagonist whom for years had the voice left up to the imagination of the player will end up with almost all players have the Warden sound nothing like their Warden. It's not like a new character having a voice since from the beginning that is their voice. 



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The real problem with this idea is that the Hero of Ferelden and the Orlesian warden are utterly different people, in terms of their role in the world. What happened in DAA just wasn't all that important. NPCs are going to react differently to the two of them.

Sure, they can do a boatload of alternate dialogues, and wqrite the plot so that it doesn't actually matter if the PC is the HoF or not. It's not worth doing.
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ariella each tiene that i see you comments i remember the politics...fist is possible créate two differents story of characters and in determinated momento combined the situations same of the differents origins in DAO,the game start in differents map with differents story and in determinated momento have a combination and only add different dialogues for the differents story races...simple,i think is hard but not imposible and i love the situation hard...if i play a game i think in hard...really they need think with this mentality...

 

nothing is imposible..happen here..if they have 5 years or 4 years of work now with the keep is more easy they need a option of orlesian warden and solve the situation...the theme of voices they needdifferents options or for people very demanding a option for no voice.

 

they have a big big company with much resources....and you that of imposible...come on.