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[BumminDork]

So it's not concrete but it does seem like we'll be getting our first look at Tevinter in the next game which is great in my mind. But the question for me lies, if we are stationed in Tevinter mostly, do you think we're going to get that always dragon age cameo from the none other Dorian and how would you feel about that? I feel like that'll open up more romantic dialogue between a romanced Dorian since the Inquisitor will probably be in the game as well. 

 

Reason I ask is cause I know alot of people have said that they don't want anyone from the previous games to become companions again and I feel like if we're in Tevinter, Dorian will be one.

[Guildmasterron]

I could see Dorian being an advisor and not a companion. I'd be fine with either option. While I expect the Inquisitor will make an appearance, I don't expect him or her to have a major role in DA4.

[daveliam]

I suspect that if we are in Tevinter in DA4, Dorian will be present, but will be playing a major NPC role.  He'll be in charge of his new order within the Magisterium, so I suspect he'll be occupied elsewhere.  Plus, the devs have stated over and over that Maevaris is a favorite character of theirs, so since she will be playing a similar role to Dorian, there will only be room for one of them in our party.  I see them giving her the nod over him.  He's had his story and can now be relegated to major NPC (a la Alistair and Morrigan).  Mae will be our reform-oriented Vint Magister, I suspect.

[ReiKokoFuuu]

i actually like the tradition of having a former character return as a companion once, so i really wouldn't mind. 

[caradoc2000]

Dorian will be

Spoiler

dead in DA4. Cause of death: overdose of moustache wax.

[Heimdall]

He won't be a companion, but he will be a major quest giver and connection to the Inquisitor through the sending stone.

[SentinelMacDeath]

Dorian better be there, healthy and well, not about to get stabbed by some other Magister. Don't care if companion or NPC.

[Gervaise]

He is likely to be a mentor/advisor, thus being utilised to tell new players about Tevinter and bring old ones up to speed how things are currently going his end and with our old companions.   Since he gives the crystal to the Inquisitor whether lover or friend, that is no doubt how he will be in contact with the Inquisitor and possibly receiving messages.    They might even have a voice over so you will hear the Inquisitor without seeing them.   I'd love to see Dorian again, provided he doesn't look too different, but I very much doubt he would be an actual companion and wouldn't really want him to be.  Bringing back old companions doesn't really work when they are so high level at the end of the previous game because I keep wondering how they suddenly lost all their skills.    It would be odd for it to be based in Tevinter and not meet Dorian, given he now has a much higher profile in society than previously and is joint leader of the Lucerni reform party.

 

The idea about Maevaris sounds about right if they do intend using a Magister we are already familiar with as a companion.    The other possibility is that they might bring back Calpurnia, since in none of the scenarios in DAI do we actually see her dead and in any case that has never stopped them from bringing back people before.   Since Calpurnia was not her real name, she could return under her real one.   She was an interesting enough character in the actual game but even more so if you read her entry in WoT2.   

[Knight of Dane]

I never thought he would be a companion.

 

My assumption is that we will work with him and Maevaris with their political party. I also hope Calpernia is going to play a altering role depending on her involvement in DA:I (can she die?)

[Ashagar]

I suspect we will be working with Doran and that magister friend of him that keeps getting repeatedly mentioned perhaps even as a member of the magistarium if we are a mage and I fully expect that Calpernia will be in the game because she never dies no matter method used to deal with her and even if you side with the mages she still gets a mention as being alive. Of course DA4 might throw us for a loop and make us priest(which has never been done before and Tevinter has male priests (who are allowed to be married no less) or a member of the remnants of the pere-andrestian maker cult.

 

I am rather hoping to learn more about Tevinter Chantry beliefs and about Pre-andrestian maker beliefs given this is the land where maker belief first arrived in Thadas along wtih the Northern Neromenians tribes long before the old gods, the Tevinter Imperium and the final fall of the last remnants of the elven empire were cast down.

[daveliam]

@Knight of Dane:

 

You never see her die outright, but one of the endings (if you choose to fight her) is left somewhat ambiguous.  She jumps off of a waterfall into the misty depths below.  Some people take this as her being dead.  Most agree that it leaves the door open for her return.

[Knight of Dane]

@Knight of Dane:

 

You never see her die outright, but one of the endings (if you choose to fight her) is left somewhat ambiguous.  She jumps off of a waterfall into the misty depths below.  Some people take this as her being dead.  Most agree that it leaves the door open for her return.

 

Knowing bioware, that door is probably wide open given Leliana and Anders.

[Uccio]

I have hard time seeing Dorian back in Tevinter. He did toss his lot in with southern Chantry organization. I would guess such move would earn him to loose his head, no matter how altus born he is. Anders says wearing a Tevinter Chantry amulet will get your head chopped off, what would serving the southern Chantry give you in Tevinter?

And Calpernia is even more hopeless, she was part of the zealot organization worshipping a darkspawn. And a runaway slave too. How much one needs to do to become a enemy of the state?

[Gervaise]

Uccio, you clearly haven't played Trespasser or you would know why Dorian is now back in Tevinter and in a position of power.    Even taking a Qunari spy as a lover didn't harm his standing (although it probably helped the Qunari spy got himself killed).     The determination with which the writers wanted to place Dorian back in Tevinter seems a fair indicator we will be seeing him back in DA4.

 

As for Calpurnia, her original master is now dead (or under interrogation by the Inquisition whilst unable to leave his prison), so there is no one likely to identify her as such.    It is why I suggest she changes her name, since then no one would even link her with the person who followed Corypheus.    Her own retinue of freed slaves are apparently utterly loyal to her and protecting her identity and whereabouts.     Other Venatori may not even know where she is.    She actually revealed herself as a patriot to Tevinter in her dialogue and interestingly, when I let her go, Dorian approved, so you never know, she could turn up in the ranks of the Lucerni.   Stranger things have been known to happen - like the Chantry voting a mage on to the Sunburst Throne.

[vertigomez]

I would like for Dorian to be a prominent character in DA4, possibly acting in an advisory capacity to the PC while he does his Lucerni thang.

I'd also like to see Fenris again, if we're going to Tevinter.

[DuskWanderer]

Absolutely not. Dorian has had his time and it's time for fresh new blood. At best, he'll cameo, along with others like Josephine. 

[KaiserShep]

I would like for Dorian to be a prominent character in DA4, possibly acting in an advisory capacity to the PC while he does his Lucerni thang.

I'd also like to see Fenris again, if we're going to Tevinter.

 

I'm actually rather hoping that minor characters don't make an appearance. That sort of thing can make the world of the game seem very small. At least with Dorian, he becomes a person of authority and has a reason to make an appearance, unlike Fenris, who could just as well be cast to the wind or be back with Hawke or something. I didn't really care for Zevran's appearance in DA2 either. 

[AresKeith]

I'm actually rather hoping that minor characters don't make an appearance. That sort of thing can make the world of the game seem very small. At least with Dorian, he becomes a person of authority and has a reason to make an appearance, unlike Fenris, who could just as well be cast to the wind or be back with Hawke or something. I didn't really care for Zevran's appearance in DA2 either. 

 

Only minor character I see appearing that really makes sense is Feynriel

 

And possibly Harding as a companion

[SentinelMacDeath]

Only minor character I see appearing that really makes sense is Feynriel

 

And possibly Harding as a companion

well, I made him Tranquil soooooooo yeah .... 

[Big I]

I think he'll be there as an NPC. I'm hopeful we'll get to make him either the Archon or the Black Divine.

 

I also think Maevaris Tilani from the comics and war table will be a companion.

[nightscrawl]

Not going to bother with speculation as there are plenty of people willing to do that.

 

I'm pretty torn as to whether I want him to return or not, regardless of role. He won't be written by David Gaider, and I dunno... somehow just knowing that makes it sad for me. That said... he is my favorite NPC and follower of all three DA games and I would love to see him and hear (Ramon Tikaram) again.

 

As an avid Dorian-mancer, I do wish to caution my fellow D-mancers against hoping for an excessive amount of romance content, even if the Inquisitor is in DA4 in some capacity. I really don't see them giving too much play to that specific option, especially when all of the other romance options likely won't get additional play. As Gervaise mentioned, the sending crystal might play a role, but that would apply to a friend Inquisitor as well as a romance one. So as much as I would like more romance content, I really wouldn't get my hopes up for more than a line or two, which is what we've gotten with every single other romance carryover after DAO. Probably the biggest exception was the Alistair romance scene at the start of DAA where he says a line and gives a kiss. But again, that was a very brief scene.

 

I don't mind return NPCs as long as it's fitting with the story and the setting. Dorian would certainly be appropriate for DA4 IF we do head to Tevinter. We shall see!

[Uccio]

Uccio, you clearly haven't played Trespasser or you would know why Dorian is now back in Tevinter and in a position of power.    Even taking a Qunari spy as a lover didn't harm his standing (although it probably helped the Qunari spy got himself killed).     The determination with which the writers wanted to place Dorian back in Tevinter seems a fair indicator we will be seeing him back in DA4.

 

As for Calpurnia, her original master is now dead (or under interrogation by the Inquisition whilst unable to leave his prison), so there is no one likely to identify her as such.    It is why I suggest she changes her name, since then no one would even link her with the person who followed Corypheus.    Her own retinue of freed slaves are apparently utterly loyal to her and protecting her identity and whereabouts.     Other Venatori may not even know where she is.    She actually revealed herself as a patriot to Tevinter in her dialogue and interestingly, when I let her go, Dorian approved, so you never know, she could turn up in the ranks of the Lucerni.   Stranger things have been known to happen - like the Chantry voting a mage on to the Sunburst Throne.

 

These are things you can do when trying to rewrite lore and history. Though given the war like situation between the southern Chantry and Tevinter, and the actual war between Tevinter and the Qun Dorian would be headless in a real situation, and practically in any situation. But of course if the writers want to shoehorn him back to Tevinter then it happens. I just can´t see any actual reason that being possible except special snowflake, and that is just bad writing. He committed a treason, if that doesn´t get you killed I don´t know what does. The least thing would be to remove his position and slam his a*s in jail.

 

As for Calpernia, I wouldn´t think Tevinter secret agency would be so blind not knowing who was the leader of the extremist zealot group of Venatori. Her goal was to overthrow the legal regime of Tevinter and place a darkspawn in charge. Such action would make her a person Tevinter would hunt until found and killed. Blood Magic will make even the most loyal people talk, there is no way she could hide. She would have no hope there, but again if she is being shoehorned back just because then we will see her again. 

 

We will see how it goes.

[Hydwn]

i actually like the tradition of having a former character return as a companion once, so i really wouldn't mind. 

 

Yeah.  If the past is any indication, there's always a bridge companion character.  Oghren bridges DAO and DAA, Anders bridges DAA and DA2, and Varric bridges DA2 and DAI.  

 

Also it seems likely Maevaris is going to be in it (which is awesome) and having two magister members of the Lucerni in an advisory role would feel redundant.  Mae's older, Dorian is her protégé, so it would make more sense for him to be in the field instead of her.

 

Of course, all this will depend on what the PC is.  It pretty much has to be an outsider to Tevinter society somehow, unless we're giving up the robust character creator we enjoyed last game.  Either they'd have to have some sort of special ability like the Warden or Inquisitor, or they'd have to be some kind of criminal.  An elven rogue or qunari warrior would likely not have free reign in Tevinter through legal channels unless something supernatural made them extraordinary.

[Heimdall]

Yeah. If the past is any indication, there's always a bridge companion character

It might not be a companion, but something close enough. Like Harding.

[Hydwn]

It might not be a companion, but something close enough. Like Harding.

 

I have a feeling they'll find away to shoehorn Harding in.  The good money is that she's going to be the Inquisition's liaison, though whether that makes her a playable character, an advisor, or something else is anyone's guess.  She's not my favourite, but she has an astonishingly large fandom, and BioWare will likely play to that - especially since she's alive in all playthroughs with no epilogue in Trespasser.

 

(I don't think they ever expected her to be so popular.  He role was so small at first, but by Trespasser she's a core member of the Inquisition along with advisors and Inquisitor, and she's a quest-giver in Hakkon.)