117 réponses à ce sujet

[BumminDork]

I actually mean cameos as in actually seeing them, war table missions are like codex entries to me. (Plus I probably missed his wartable missions, because after a certain point I just didn't read the missions anymore and sent whoever had the shortest time.... Im such a great tactician! lol)

 

 

 

 Lolwhat? ... That really heavy, qunari/dwarf sounding voice.... is the same as that antivan squishy elf? .... uh... wow. just wow. I did not realize that xD

 

Aww I did this too until I realized that I killed my Lavellan's clan off and had Sutherland's company fail and I honestly felt horrible about it so I ended up reading all of the missions.

[Qun00]

While I do appreciate that being king didn't change who Alistair is, I'm disappointed that they didn't show him evolve in that role.

He STILL sucks at diplomacy and politics? Come on. It's a shame that hardening him didn't matter in the end.

[Aren]

No. He's a King Regent, and he's done a good job at ruling Ferelden. My Canon Cousland refused to let Anora get the throne, so I guess in my Canon, my Cousland either let Anora go or killed her. But I sort of ship Fergus Cousland/Anora for some reason...

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Anora

Anora can't be killed just like Eamon or Tegan,or Fergus,if she is deposed,she still remains one of the heirs to the throne of Ferelden just like the others 3 that i mentioned, should Alistair die to the taint of for whatever reason,as is stated to her codex,ultimately it would been the landsmeet to decide i suppose.

[Aren]

While I do appreciate that being king didn't change who Alistair is, I'm disappointed that they didn't show him evolve in that role.

He STILL sucks at diplomacy and politics? Come on. It's a shame that hardening him didn't matter in the end.

Since DAO i never thought that "Harden" him with that rude line was something that would have made a difference,he can change on his own during the years without the Warden who try to interfere with his personality.

[GoldenGail3]

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Anora
Anora can't be killed just like Eamon or Tegan,or Fergus,if she is deposed,she still remains one of the heirs to the throne of Ferelden just like the others 3 that i mentioned, should Alistair die to the taint of for whatever reason,as is stated to her codex,ultimately it would been the landsmeet to decide i suppose.

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Anora
Anora can't be killed just like Eamon or Tegan,or Fergus,if she is deposed,she still remains one of the heirs to the throne of Ferelden just like the others 3 that i mentioned, should Alistair die to the taint of for whatever reason,as is stated to her codex,ultimately it would been the landsmeet to decide i suppose.

OH wait, that was only for the Blight. She ain't anywhere near the throne of Ferelden in my Canon. I think Alistair delcared Eamon his heir, so yeah, she's a book-seller in mine. Ain't going anywhere near the throne in mine.

[Qun00]

Since DAO i never thought that "Harden" him with that rude line was something that would have made a difference,he can change on his own during the years without the Warden who try to interfere with his personality.

Except that he does not.

We see that in the landsmeet as we do with this stunted Alistair 10 years later.

[Aren]

Yeah, but the Queen Consort can romace him. Unlike Anora, were your trapped in a loveless marriage. And I betcha, the Queen Consort is most likely more influencing then the lowly Prince Consort who is actively known as prince Consort. The Queen Consort isn't known as the Princess Consort though, only as the Queen Consort. I suppose the one is known as the Prince Consort (and Anora doesn't even take on your name, either. But neither does the Queen Consort for Alistair does either.) Does not have as much power as the Queen Consort, who is known without the Consort part of her name. However, he is know as the Prince Consort, not only a King or Prince (without the Consort tittle of his name).

Romance Alistair in order to become queen is not mandatory,while Anora can't be romanced,and actually this is a good thing "at least for me" since "romance" are somehow locked especially in the keep,mean that you have to chose one,having for example Anora as wife and Leliana/Morrigan as lover isn't so bad,or in DAO there was the chance for the Prince consort to marry Anora while having both romcances with Leliana and Morrigan activated,albeit the keep allow to only set for one for Inquisition since honestly have all three (it is possible without using chat in DAO just by paying attention carefully to Leliana and Morrigan critical moments of their romances) was exaggerated  .

They are interchangeable titles who mean the same thing,how can be a Queen consort  be more influential of a Princess consort if the title means the same thing and it can be used  with the same weight

https://en.wikipedia...rincess_consort

Her husband is also Cailan half brother , Alistair is not a complete noble like Cailan but he still remain a more powerful candidate than Anora and a stronger "Match" for the Queen Cousland consort .

The other marriage between Anora and a male Cousland is completely different Queen Anora is less legitimated than the male Cousland

,not only only becuase of her birthright but also because of what her father and her administration did  during the blight 

She has her problems in keeping the nobility quite while keep looking for the Prince/King consort in order to resolve the situation,since the nobles of Ferelden are pressuring her with their whole "give me an heir ,queen Anora,It's since the kingdom of Cailan that we demanded this",this is somehow in her codex.

No one of this is present with AListair since the nobles are content enough albeit there is no heir too,they still have a Theirin for the moment who didn't  had Loghain as a father to ruin the reputation.

At least this is my thought,if you put someone like AListair on the throne you are pretty much equal in power to him,since he is not the HoF and he does not possess all the lands of her wife (Gwaren,Amaranthine, partnership with Fergus,friendship with Bhelen ecc..) but he is still Maric son and an heir of Calenhad,even if i personally don care this seem still important for people like Eamon and te conservativism.

Anora on the other hand has an husband that she accepted to marry in order to take the throne while not having Maric as a father but Loghain, who lost his reputation,and his husband has all those lands and riches and titles and is also a noble.

For my personal canon i also preferred to have a grey warden and only one to the throne not two of them.

 

[Aren]

Except that he does not.

We see that in the landsmeet as we do with this stunted Alistair 10 years later.

Honestly only way to grasp his personality in this game is to read the war table mission related to him.

During the mages quest the player cannot understand if he is changed since that was a critical situation,in which he had to act like that.

[GoldenGail3]

Romance Alistair in order to become queen is not mandatory,while Anora can't be romanced,and actually this is a good thing "at least for me" since "romance" are somehow locked especially in the keep,mean that you have to chose one,having for example Anora as wife and Leliana/Morrigan as lover isn't so bad,or in DAO there was the chance for the Prince consort to marry Anora while having both romcances with Leliana and Morrigan activated,albeit the keep allow to only set for one for Inquisition since honestly have all three (it is possible without using chat in DAO just by paying attention carefully to Leliana and Morrigan critical moments of their romances) was exaggerated .
They are interchangeable titles who mean the same thing,how can be a Queen consort be more influential of a Princess consort if the title means the same thing and it can be used with the same weight

https://en.wikipedia...rincess_consort
Her husband is also Cailan half brother , Alistair is not a complete noble like Cailan but he still remain a more powerful candidate than Anora and a stronger "Match" for the Queen Cousland consort .
The other marriage between Anora and a male Cousland is completely different Queen Anora is less legitimated than the male Cousland
,not only only becuase of her birthright but also because of what her father and her administration did during the blight
She has her problems in keeping the nobility quite while keep looking for the Prince/King consort in order to resolve the situation,since the nobles of Ferelden are pressuring her with their whole "give me an heir ,queen Anora,It's since the kingdom of Cailan that we demanded this",this is somehow in her codex.
No one of this is present with AListair since the nobles are content enough albeit there is no heir too,they still have a Theirin for the moment who didn't had Loghain as a father to ruin the reputation.

At least this is my thought,if you put someone like AListair on the throne you are pretty much equal in power to him,since he is not the HoF and he does not possess all the lands of her wife (Gwaren,Amaranthine partnership with Fergus,friendship with Bhelen ecc..) but he is still Maric son and an heir of Calenhad,even if i personally don care this seem still important for people like Eamon and te conservativism.
Anora on the other hand has an husband that she accepted to marry in order to take the throne while not having Maric as a father but Loghain who lost his reputation,and his husband has all those lands and riches and titles and is also a noble.
For my personal canon i also preferred to have a grey warden and only one to the throne not two of them.

Yeah, but Anora is prove to be untrustworthy. I hate people that I save then turn against me, to be honest. But anyhow, she is a Queen Regent. So therefore, she is also entitled to your riches too. And your never called Princess Consort as a Queen Consort. Yes, they are interchangeable (but each are separate titles), but notice how it is says that Princess Consorts are most often known as Queen Consorts/King Consort more then the other lesser Prince Consort/Princeas Consorts who can not have the crone once the Queen Regent is dead? I think as Queen Consort, you can become Queen Regent once your husband King Regent is dead. Therefore, Queen Consort are more influencal and more respected as to oppose Prince/King Consort that often are only mere Prince Consorts in title, and Princess Consort who happen to be the lady version of the Prince Consort, not as respected as a Queen or King Consort . You get the same titles as the King Regent/Queen Regent, and are generally respected as a Queen Regent/King Regent is.

And as such, this is why I believe the Prince Consort is lesser then the Queen Consort, because they are hardly King Consorts, they don't have Anora's titles. That is the difference between Princess/Queen Consorts and Prince/King Consorts, the second choice is over all less respected as opposed to a Queen and King Consort, despite them being interchangeable. And you were never titled King Consort, only Prince Consort! Notice how Princess isn't the choice of words they choice to use on a Female Cousland, unlike Males who only get the lofty title of Prince Consort.

[Dai Grepher]

Yeah, but the Queen Consort can romace him. Unlike Anora, were your trapped in a loveless marriage. And I betcha, the Queen Consort is most likely more influencing then the lowly Prince Consort who is actively known as prince Consort. The Queen Consort isn't known as the Princess Consort though, only as the Queen Consort. I suppose the one is known as the Prince Consort (and Anora doesn't even take on your name, either. But neither does the Queen Consort for Alistair does either.) Does not have as much power as the Queen Consort, who is known without the Consort part of her name. However, he is know as the Prince Consort, not only a King or Prince (without the Consort tittle of his name).

 

The "consort" moniker is a storyline error. A Cousland of either gender is a joint-ruling monarch. I would say the Queen Cousland's power is equal to or less than the King Cousland's power based on how Alistair treats her. If he is unhardened and loves her, then her power is equal to the King Cousland's. If he's hardened, then he probably commands some things at least, in which case she's weaker than she would be with Alistair's full confidence. The King's power can also be lessened by Anora depending on whether she agrees with him or not, or whether she loves him or not (though the game gives no definite indications of this), but I think Anora's influence over him is far less than Alistair's over the F!Cousland. In my playthough, for example, my King Cousland rules over the court. Since the story doesn't account for Anora's feelings, I think this situation could apply to any King Cousland. So he will always have more influence. However, this might be the case with a Queen Cousland as well. I can't be sure though, since I never played as one.

 

Also, the King Cousland is called "king" and "ruler" in various instances. So again, the "consort" thing is an error.

 

Anora not taking on the Cousland name is likely laziness on BioWare's part, or an oversight. It was easier to program the game to show Anora having one name instead of two depending on world state. Just like it was to keep the Theirin banners that show up all around Ferelden, which would apply to the full spectrum of Alistair alone, Alistair married to the F!Cousland, Alistair married to Anora, or Anora alone. They didn't put in the time to make a Cousland banner for worldstates with a King Cousland married to Anora. Same goes for the F!Cousland who is not given Alistair's last name.

[GoldenGail3]

The "consort" moniker is a storyline error. A Cousland of either gender is a joint-ruling monarch. I would say the Queen Cousland's power is equal to or less than the King Cousland's power based on how Alistair treats her. If he is unhardened and loves her, then her power is equal to the King Cousland's. If he's hardened, then he probably commands some things at least, in which case she's weaker than she would be with Alistair's full confidence. The King's power can also be lessened by Anora depending on whether she agrees with him or not, or whether she loves him or not (though the game gives no definite indications of this), but I think Anora's influence over him is far less than Alistair's over the F!Cousland. In my playthough, for example, my King Cousland rules over the court. Since the story doesn't account for Anora's feelings, I think this situation could apply to any King Cousland. So he will always have more influence. However, this might be the case with a Queen Cousland as well. I can't be sure though, since I never played as one.
 
Also, the King Cousland is called "king" and "ruler" in various instances. So again, the "consort" thing is an error.
 
Anora not taking on the Cousland name is likely laziness on BioWare's part, or an oversight. It was easier to program the game to show Anora having one name instead of two depending on world state. Just like it was to keep the Theirin banners that show up all around Ferelden, which would apply to the full spectrum of Alistair alone, Alistair married to the F!Cousland, Alistair married to Anora, or Anora alone. They didn't put in the time to make a Cousland banner for worldstates with a King Cousland married to Anora. Same goes for the F!Cousland who is not given Alistair's last name.

The "consort" moniker is a storyline error. A Cousland of either gender is a joint-ruling monarch. I would say the Queen Cousland's power is equal to or less than the King Cousland's power based on how Alistair treats her. If he is unhardened and loves her, then her power is equal to the King Cousland's. If he's hardened, then he probably commands some things at least, in which case she's weaker than she would be with Alistair's full confidence. The King's power can also be lessened by Anora depending on whether she agrees with him or not, or whether she loves him or not (though the game gives no definite indications of this), but I think Anora's influence over him is far less than Alistair's over the F!Cousland. In my playthough, for example, my King Cousland rules over the court. Since the story doesn't account for Anora's feelings, I think this situation could apply to any King Cousland. So he will always have more influence. However, this might be the case with a Queen Cousland as well. I can't be sure though, since I never played as one.
 
Also, the King Cousland is called "king" and "ruler" in various instances. So again, the "consort" thing is an error.
 
Anora not taking on the Cousland name is likely laziness on BioWare's part, or an oversight. It was easier to program the game to show Anora having one name instead of two depending on world state. Just like it was to keep the Theirin banners that show up all around Ferelden, which would apply to the full spectrum of Alistair alone, Alistair married to the F!Cousland, Alistair married to Anora, or Anora alone. They didn't put in the time to make a Cousland banner for worldstates with a King Cousland married to Anora. Same goes for the F!Cousland who is not given Alistair's last name.

I have 2 King Consorts and one Queen Consort. I think that Bioware wanted to kill off the medieval theme of DA, actually. It's one of the reasons I played DAO, was because it was a medieval styled game. I like Skyrim because of it, too. The whole consort thing is probaly becuase the Warden that surived DAO is a Warden Commander, which holds more power then a king or queen regent. So then they decide to make them a consort due to that.

[Dai Grepher]

Dai, I been thinking.. Maybe a a cameo of drunk Hero of Ferelden would be better then a drunk Alistair? After all the "Hero" lost his lady love Leluana and still faces the fact he still not welcome in many places because and looked down upon because he is a Elf.

 

Who... what now? Oh, Leliana. Well, I guess an elf Hero who feels upset about the current way of things... will... probably join forces with Solas.
 

[Dai Grepher]

I have 2 King Consorts and one Queen Consort. I think that Bioware wanted to kill off the medieval theme of DA, actually. It's one of the reasons I played DAO, was because it was a medieval styled game. I like Skyrim because of it, too. The whole consort thing is probaly becuase the Warden that surived DAO is a Warden Commander, which holds more power then a king or queen regent. So then they decide to make them a consort due to that.

 

Personally, I think the "consort" storyline was a screw up by some writers or programmers. I think the intention was to have Anora call the M!Cousland a consort in an attempt to lessen his position compared to hers, but ultimately that attempt would fail as the banns would recognize them both as joint-ruling monarchs. The problem is that some writers or programmers thought Anora's reference was law in Ferelden, so that's how the references continued. Yet at the same time, references to the M!Cousland being a ruling king also continued because that was the true storyline. That's my theory anyway.

 

I don't think the consort title was because of that. Obviously story-wise they didn't know the Cousland would be made Warden-Commander, but even from a real world game perspective I don't see them making the Cousland a consort just because of that. A monarch can serve in other capacities as well. A Teyrn of Gwaren will still be a Warden-Commander, for example. Plus, a King Alistair will go off to find Maric in the comics. So they didn't have a problem with that.

 

But I do think the joint rule situation was due to the Hero being needed in future titles. I agree with that.

 

Anyway, the forum is taking a long time to post my replies. I'll return later.

[GoldenGail3]

Personally, I think the "consort" storyline was a screw up by some writers or programmers. I think the intention was to have Anora call the M!Cousland a consort in an attempt to lessen his position compared to hers, but ultimately that attempt would fail as the banns would recognize them both as joint-ruling monarchs. The problem is that some writers or programmers thought Anora's reference was law in Ferelden, so that's how the references continued. Yet at the same time, references to the M!Cousland being a ruling king also continued because that was the true storyline. That's my theory anyway.

I don't think the consort title was because of that. Obviously story-wise they didn't know the Cousland would be made Warden-Commander, but even from a real world game perspective I don't see them making the Cousland a consort just because of that. A monarch can serve in other capacities as well. A Teyrn of Gwaren will still be a Warden-Commander, for example. Plus, a King Alistair will go off to find Maric in the comics. So they didn't have a problem with that.

But I do think the joint rule situation was due to the Hero being needed in future titles. I agree with that.

Anyway, the forum is taking a long time to post my replies. I'll return later.

You make good logical points. (: And please, don't bring the HOF back. Leave them be. I don't want them to die, or end up like Revan or a messed up cameo of Hawke. So yeah, I don't want to start the debate on whenever the HOF should die or not, but I purpose that they leaves the HOF to be a happy ending. But I do have mutilply Anora/King Cousland saves, so yeah, I understand both ways, but overall I prefer Queen Cousland. And maybe sense the Couslands only married into royalty (but so did Anora, and once Cailan died she became a Queen Regent while her father got promoted. So there's that.) and as such, they only became Consorts due to that fact.

[Tidus]

Dai, For some reason I don't think the HOF Elf would join forces with Solas.  He would more then likely run a sword through Solas.

 

Anywhoo, it would have been better then a drunk Alistair.

[Dai Grepher]

You make good logical points. (: And please, don't bring the HOF back. Leave them be. I don't want them to die, or end up like Revan or a messed up cameo of Hawke. So yeah, I don't want to start the debate on whenever the HOF should die or not, but I purpose that they leaves the HOF to be a happy ending. But I do have mutilply Anora/King Cousland saves, so yeah, I understand both ways, but overall I prefer Queen Cousland. And maybe sense the Couslands only married into royalty (but so did Anora, and once Cailan died she became a Queen Regent while her father got promoted. So there's that.) and as such, they only became Consorts due to that fact.

 

Thanks. I would like to see the HoF return in-game. BioWare just has to put the effort in. But I agree that the HoF should not be killed off, and if they aren't going to bring the HoF back, then there needs to be happy endings written for every HoF.

 

I can understand your preference, and where you get the sense he married into royalty (even though Anora isn't royalty). Fergus says something like, "my little brother, marrying the queen", which gives off that vibe. But that's only if you pick the "at the wedding for sure" option. I feel like that shouldn't be the most important thing to mention in that case. Like, becoming king should be the main... sticking point in that whole situation. It's like, "Really bro? Marrying Anora is the highlight? Really? Not, ya know, ruling over the entire nation? Yeah, mother would be most distressed by me marrying a woman whom she knew dearly when she was alive, not the whole me being a monarch and being responsible for the lives of hundreds of thousands of people. And that whole having to watch out for betrayal and assassins and stuff now, no big deal right? Walking down an aisle and saying 'I do', there's... there's the real test of mettle right there bro. Ah but hey whatever, glad you're alive though Fergus."

 

Anora became nothing after Cailan died. She was referred to as "queen" in name only, but she had no legal authority. I think the law in Ferelden worked by having the next most powerful teyrn become the temporary regent until the banns could elect a new monarch, which is why Loghain needed the Couslands out of the way before Ostagar. Eamon also makes it clear that Anora is not the monarch, though she does have a claim toward getting elected as one. The lore is clear that every monarch must be elected by the banns. Anora was not elected unless and until the Warden declares it so, and in an M!Cousland's case, he can make it so they rule jointly. It is that declaration that grants them their authority.

[Dai Grepher]

Dai, For some reason I don't think the HOF Elf would join forces with Solas.  He would more then likely run a sword through Solas.

 

Anywhoo, it would have been better then a drunk Alistair.

 

You're right. For gameplay reasons the elf Hero would not join Solas, either for personal reasons or because Solas would not allow it.

 

I almost wish Alistair had stayed a drunk and developed a fighting style around it, sort of like Oghren.

[GoldenGail3]

Thanks. I would like to see the HoF return in-game. BioWare just has to put the effort in. But I agree that the HoF should not be killed off, and if they aren't going to bring the HoF back, then there needs to be happy endings written for every HoF.
 
I can understand your preference, and where you get the sense he married into royalty (even though Anora isn't royalty). Fergus says something like, "my little brother, marrying the queen", which gives off that vibe. But that's only if you pick the "at the wedding for sure" option. I feel like that shouldn't be the most important thing to mention in that case. Like, becoming king should be the main... sticking point in that whole situation. It's like, "Really bro? Marrying Anora is the highlight? Really? Not, ya know, ruling over the entire nation? Yeah, mother would be most distressed by me marrying a woman whom she knew dearly when she was alive, not the whole me being a monarch and being responsible for the lives of hundreds of thousands of people. And that whole having to watch out for betrayal and assassins and stuff now, no big deal right? Walking down an aisle and saying 'I do', there's... there's the real test of meddle right there bro. Ah but hey whatever, glad you're alive though Fergus."
 
Anora became nothing after Cailan died. She was referred to as "queen" in name only, but she had no legal authority. I think the law in Ferelden worked by having the next most powerful teyrn become the temporary regent until the banns could elect a new monarch, which is why Loghain needed the Couslands out of the way before Ostagar. Eamon also makes it clear that Anora is not the monarch, though she does have a claim toward getting elected as one. The lore is clear that every monarch must be elected by the banns. Anora was not elected unless and until the Warden declares it so, and in an M!Cousland's case, he can make it so they rule jointly. It is that declaration that grants them their authority.

Eh.... I'm not too enthuastic about the Wardens return anyhow. I think it'd destory my HOF's character. But my Prince Consort HOF was a avid Morigan romance, so being a Consort really just put another blow into my poor dear Warden. He married Anora out of a sense of duty, but was still in love with Morrigan, so after she left, he kind of got angered easily, and he probaly didn't sleep most nights. Poor guy, at least my Queen Consort married her lover, and became happy.

But anyhow, I like Fergus, he's a nice guy. One of my favorites amongst the Origin family's, I love the Couslans family. They were too awesome not to play one. And it's nice to have mistresses with a Prince Consort. After all, my dude did, he probaly wanted to make Keiran his heir once he saw him, but he decided against it, because he's a Mage and he didn't want Anora's wrath on him so he decided to leave Kieran as a 'bastard' child so that he could grow up normally without the politics and lies. I think him and Morrigan had another kid, to be honest (it sure seemed like it when I read his letter.) And maybe to just to troll Anora (becuase he's a grey Warden and he's produced two children while she hasn't had any children. That would ****** off Anora so badly, she'd probaly smack my Cousland in the face. But I do image they eventually have a kid thought, just later.)

[Dai Grepher]

I guess it depends how you play it. My King Cousland genuinely loves Anora, in my mind, even though there are very few dialogue options available to show it. At least one of the Inquisition codices states that they lived happily until the Hero disappeared.

 

I like Fergus. I wish they'd featured him in Inquisition. Maybe have him accompany Anora to Redcliffe if she rules alone or with the Hero (heck, somebody should accompany her if she's just going to walk into a castle occupied by Tevinter mages).

 

I can see how BioWare would destroy your Hero's character. He loved Leliana, had a child with and followed Morrigan, but also married Anora. That's quite a complex scenario, which BioWare already screwed up in Keep since you can't go with Morrigan unless she is the sole romance, meaning Leliana's romance isn't recognized.

 

BioWare just needs to update the Keep to be more representative of the Hero's relationships. And I say they include an option to set the tone of the Hero's relationship to Anora as well.
 

[vbibbi]

I prefer Champions of the Just, so I rarely see King Alistair (and Anora). I didn't mind his cameo, though it felt shoehorned in, since he shows up just after the Inquisition, while the Venatori have been camping out for some time. He personally needed to enter a hostile, heavily fortified fortress? And if his army could so easily come in, why does the bad future occur if the Inquisitor vanishes? We had already killed the throne room guards before Alexius teleported us.

 

I would have preferred just some military commander enter in that scene, and then have a mini quest for the peace treaty war table mission, which involves Alistair and/or Anora and the ruler from WEWH. Make us use our diplomatic skills rather than just send an advisor.

 

Of course, I can say that for most of the war table missions...

[Darkly Tranquil]

Although Alistair is my favourite character in all of DA, I honestly felt like his cameo as king was just as pointless as the one in DA2. It didn't really add anything, and his part could have been either skipped entirely, or someone else used in his place (Arl Teagan, for instance). His Warden cameo was pretty good, but I was disappointed there was no drunk cameo. In DA2, Teagan eventually convinces him to return to Ferelden, and it would have been cool to see him slumming about in Redcliffe somewhere (down on the dock fishing, perhaps?).

[vbibbi]

Although Alistair is my favourite character in all of DA, I honestly felt like his cameo as king was just as pointless as the one in DA2. It didn't really add anything, and his part could have been either skipped entirely, or someone else used in his place (Arl Teagan, for instance). His Warden cameo was pretty good, but I was disappointed there was no drunk cameo. In DA2, Teagan eventually convinces him to return to Ferelden, and it would have been cool to see him slumming about in Redcliffe somewhere (down on the dock fishing, perhaps?).

Or have him accompanying Teagan to the Exalted Council!

[Dai Grepher]

I prefer Champions of the Just, so I rarely see King Alistair (and Anora). I didn't mind his cameo, though it felt shoehorned in, since he shows up just after the Inquisition, while the Venatori have been camping out for some time. He personally needed to enter a hostile, heavily fortified fortress? And if his army could so easily come in, why does the bad future occur if the Inquisitor vanishes? We had already killed the throne room guards before Alexius teleported us.

 

I would have preferred just some military commander enter in that scene, and then have a mini quest for the peace treaty war table mission, which involves Alistair and/or Anora and the ruler from WEWH. Make us use our diplomatic skills rather than just send an advisor.

 

Of course, I can say that for most of the war table missions...

 

I think the gist of it was that Alexius flees the castle in the confusion of the Herald and Dorian being "killed", so the troops would have walked in on a chaotic scene. They may have even tried to apprehend the Inquisition troops and the two remaining companions. Fiona is then questioned by the monarch. While that's happening, Alexius commands his Venatori to get all the mages they can and head elsewhere. Then Alexius comes back to Redcliffe at a later date and takes over. Fiona and the Inquisition ally with Ferelden, but it does them no good. The same companions are captured, and so is Fiona.
 

[Dai Grepher]

Although Alistair is my favourite character in all of DA, I honestly felt like his cameo as king was just as pointless as the one in DA2. It didn't really add anything, and his part could have been either skipped entirely, or someone else used in his place (Arl Teagan, for instance). His Warden cameo was pretty good, but I was disappointed there was no drunk cameo. In DA2, Teagan eventually convinces him to return to Ferelden, and it would have been cool to see him slumming about in Redcliffe somewhere (down on the dock fishing, perhaps?).

 

Yes. I think it would also be cool to have him be kind of a Where's Waldo (Wally in the UK) character once you talk to him in Redcliffe. Like, he's on every map fishing somewhere, and ranting about the past. He'll say something new every time you find him. He'll also reference the fake Calling, and notice when it stops after Here Lies the Abyss.

[Darkly Tranquil]

Yes. I think it would also be cool to have him be kind of a Where's Waldo (Wally in the UK) character once you talk to him in Redcliffe. Like, he's on every map fishing somewhere, and ranting about the past. He'll say something new every time you find him. He'll also reference the fake Calling, and notice when it stops after Here Lies the Abyss.

I like this idea far more than I should.