Kill a whole family and children because he lost his favourite sword,as far as i'm concerned that's pretty insane.
He's a killer of benefactors, which is the worst things possible imho.
plus he even say to the Warden countless of time that one day he will come to make war on Ferelden.
I would describe it as a violent psychotic break. He was lucid afterward and did not relapse at any point, but to quote Wikipedia: Environmental triggers, such as losing a loved one, are known to contribute, as may excessive stress,[2] or the interaction of strong social demands with a pre-existing vulnerability of self.[3]
He was unprepared to be taken out of the context of the Qunari and went on the kind of sucidal killing spree he had been educated to expect from those who left the way. It has been suggested that the reason why the Qunari are so obsessed with imposing order is because their draconic ancestry puts them at high risk of Reaver Syndrome, the psychosis reported as being a potential side effect of overindulgence in dragon's blood. The thought that has occurred to me is that the reason why Qunari are forbidden from choosing reproductive relationships of their own is because this genetic problem is being bred out of them by a long term eugenics problem.
IMHO yes.. I don't like Sten at all and don't trust him at all especially after he tried to take command of the group.. My warden beat him into submission. Wonder how he felt when a woman warrior gave him a good beating in game two? In his mind women can't be warriors.
I will find it hard to release him from his cage when I play as a human after all my Shem's family was murdered..
Sten never ask you to release him, he's willing to die for his crime, he's being in that cage for two weeks without food and water, so why hate him?
His outburst reminds me of descriptions of Spartan warriors from ancient Greece. Spartan men were trained from a young age, and put through brutal training regimens that often involved killing slaves, self mutilation, and forced survival exercises. By the time they were adults, Spartan men were great warriors but had woefully undeveloped people skills. They simply could not get along with outsiders, which was an issue when the Spartan army marched outside their territory.
Sten is in a similar situation, although by all rights he should have had a more thorough education than any Spartan. However, he was still a gruff soldier who had been taught little else but to be a gruff soldier. This helps explain the short conversations we would have with him, and why he was always testing our leadership.
Another possible explanation is that Sten's indoctrination as a soldier under the Qun was more sinister than simple training and drills. Perhaps he was "programmed" to lose it when he lost his blade in battle so as to increase his chances of survival and inflicting maximum carnage on his enemies. It's just as likely that he would not even be aware of such a "fail-safe" and would have naturally blamed himself. We have yet to see evidence of such a capability on the part of the Qunari, although certain Ben-Hassrath techniques lend credibility to the idea that this is possible.
You can blame his culture. The Qunari teach that soldiers' souls reside in their main weapon, and that when they lose their main weapon they lose their soul. Since Sten lost his favorite sword (Asala), he believed he really had lost his soul and reacted accordingly.
You can blame his culture. The Qunari teach that soldiers' souls reside in their main weapon, and that when they lose their main weapon they lose their soul. Since Sten lost his favorite sword (Asala), he believed he really had lost his soul and reacted accordingly.
Exactly. From the standpoint of the humans around him, he certainly was insane. From his own standpoint, he had already lost his soul, and as he says, he panicked when he realized its loss. I recruit him, because it's clear that he regrets what he did and seeks to atone for it. Well, that and my Wardens tend to be curious about other cultures than their own.
He had a violent breakdown. He would not have acted that way otherwise, he was waiting for punishment (imprisonment, execution), and while strict in his world view, he's flexible enough to consider a comradery with the Warden and an alternate form of atonement.
The Qunari will invade Thedas. Thedas will convert the Qun, yadda yadda. Neither are innocent in terms of large scale instigation of war. Sten is just completely matter-of-face about it.
I don't love Sten and I despise the Qun, but I don't see the gigantic problem here.
A mental breakdown does not make an 'insane person'.
IMHO yes.. I don't like Sten at all and don't trust him at all especially after he tried to take command of the group.. My warden beat him into submission. Wonder how he felt when a woman warrior gave him a good beating in game two? In his mind women can't be warriors.
I will find it hard to release him from his cage when I play as a human after all my Shem's family was murdered..
Yes,I don't think I need him since I use him once in the game so,next game (#15) he's Darkspawn bait.
I found Sten to be highly interesting as a companion, because his perspective is so different; that said, I was never swayed by his logic.
I find the qunari as a whole to be fascinating, and mostly well written. I think the arishok in Kirkwall in DA2 was superbly well written, and acted. I think some aspects of qunari culture are valuable because of their pragmatism.
All that said, a lot of Sten's justifications, especially regarding violence, ring hollow. Simply reasoning that, "in qunari culture..." is not a valid, objective justification for the action or actions. I believe he wants to take responsibility for the murders (been a while since I played DA:O), so that's good. He doesn't ask for any mercy. But once he's part of your group, he seems to think the qun is the ultimate answer to everything, without question, and doesn't think much of anyone's rights (or that they even have rights) outside of the qun. That's fine if that's his perspective, but it does make him a little crazy by everyone else's standards.
So he's a great companion for learning about the qunari, but he is crazy by normal standards.
Sten does gets bent out of shape over my female warden since females can not fight. according to Qunari's belief and life style. Sten doesn't think much of the human race and think of humans as monkeys-this comes out when Sten and Shale is having a talk in the deep roads.
Sten does gets bent out of shape over my female warden since females can not fight. according to Qunari's belief and life style. Sten doesn't think much of the human race and think of humans as monkeys-this comes out when Sten and Shale is having a talk in the deep roads.
I don't think I've ever taken Sten to the Deep Roads. Might have to try this now.
Also, it's pretty obvious Sten doesn't think much of females or humans (or, actually, any race besides the kossith) - although, in fairness, such prejudice is hardly unique to either Sten or to the Qunari. Racism and sexism come from all different angles in the DA 'verse.
I always felt like it was a violent outburst, something psychological. He says the sword is a part of him, something of great value + he just lost his entire squad in an ambush, is surrounded by strangers in a country he knows nothing about and realizes he can't even go home because of the missing sword.
He had a breakdown I think
On my canon he's recruited (I take everyone I can except Loghain). But my Cousland's (male and female) left him in the cage to rot--issues with a slaughterer of defenseless benefactors, especially children. My female Amell left him in the cage, my male Amell took him (he almost forgave even Loghain). My City and Dalish elves alternately did and didn't recruit him depending on how I felt I wanted the playthrough to go.
Having played a female elven mage a few times and listening to his "Women can't fight" or his "Mages should have their tongues cut out and crippled" speeches and I had trouble trying to stomach recruiting him after that. The only reason I do is so I can have my female elven mage kick his ass in Haven and force him to STFU and get back in line.
He's the only Origins companion I actively dislike, not just because his personality grates on my last nerve but because his fighting skills suck. He's too slow and squishy as a two handed warrior, and, unlike everyone else, gets only one specialization, so even if I did recruit him I rarely used him. Even Oghren is more useful and sees some face time in the deep roads.
Exactly. From the standpoint of the humans around him, he certainly was insane. From his own standpoint, he had already lost his soul, and as he says, he panicked when he realized its loss. I recruit him, because it's clear that he regrets what he did and seeks to atone for it. Well, that and my Wardens tend to be curious about other cultures than their own.
Doesn't he also say that his people would attack him on sight if he returned without it? Or something along those lines?
Doesn't he also say that his people would attack him on sight if he returned without it? Or something along those lines?
He did. I just didn't get a chance to say that in my earlier post because I had to head to class. Should have edited it in later, though.
IMHO yes.. I don't like Sten at all and don't trust him at all especially after he tried to take command of the group.. My warden beat him into submission. Wonder how he felt when a woman warrior gave him a good beating in game two? In his mind women can't be warriors.
I will find it hard to release him from his cage when I play as a human after all my Shem's family was murdered..
I can just imagine how he'll feel when my current warden mage kicks his ass then 
I found Sten to be highly interesting as a companion, because his perspective is so different; that said, I was never swayed by his logic.
I find the qunari as a whole to be fascinating, and mostly well written. I think the arishok in Kirkwall in DA2 was superbly well written, and acted. I think some aspects of qunari culture are valuable because of their pragmatism.
All that said, a lot of Sten's justifications, especially regarding violence, ring hollow. Simply reasoning that, "in qunari culture..." is not a valid, objective justification for the action or actions. I believe he wants to take responsibility for the murders (been a while since I played DA:O), so that's good. He doesn't ask for any mercy. But once he's part of your group, he seems to think the qun is the ultimate answer to everything, without question, and doesn't think much of anyone's rights (or that they even have rights) outside of the qun. That's fine if that's his perspective, but it does make him a little crazy by everyone else's standards.
So he's a great companion for learning about the qunari, but he is crazy by normal standards.
Yeah I've always found Sten an interesting character and the Qunari an interesting race as a whole even if they aer what I might call xenophobic (only caring about themselves) and forcing themselves onto others
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