My thoughts.
Maybe Leliana is still in love with the warden? The warden could be attending to Grey Warden's business-- much like Morrigan says about "her warden".
Qun00,She becomes a fierce rogue in DA:O when she is leveled up with rogue skills and equipped with a strong sword and dagger..
Yeah, she's badass as hell now.
The mysterious spymaster who is feared by everyone.
I think my theme song for her is the Beatles "Get Back".
She's not in a good place, even by her own standards. She admits she doesn't like it. And it makes sense to me why she isn't romanced (whether my Warden was dead or not).
I'm not referring to her lover sending a letter to her. The Hero sends a letter to the Inquisitor asking him/her to basically encourage Leliana toward the good path because she has trouble staying on that path or whatever.
AND? it's still her lover reaching out and trying to help as best they can or know how. Quizzy just happens to be the vessel because they can't do it themselves and from a tactical standpoint, I'd want to make sure my spymaster is okay because she handles...a LOT of things. again, i do not think that's a good example. (and if i recall, that letter was more like she's been through something including Justinia's passing. You're there with her so do me a solid and look out for her. perhaps we simply see it differently and that's fine.)
And I shouldn't be getting any kind of message about helping Leliana define herself at this point in her life.
And I shouldn't be getting any kind of message about helping Leliana define herself at this point in her life.
Yeah, its what I liked the most about Leliana in DAI, she knows who she is, she knows what has to be done. She knows who she needs to be for the Inquisition. Its why I wished there were more of her, also because unlike cullen, cassandra or lady montilyet I still knew about her from before. As a player not as a character she felt more important to me than the others. I personally liked both Cullen's personal stories and Cassandra's, and had fun doing the Lady Montilyet's but I wish Leliana's was more fleshed out.
I guess I just like having characters from before, its why I picked Varric over any other rogue, he is just hilarious and I knew him from before.
Many players are already livid because they can't use their warden anymore.. just try to imagine the sh*tstorm if they had also stolen them one of their favourite LIs.
Many players are already livid because they can't use their warden anymore.. just try to imagine the sh*tstorm if they had also stolen them one of their favourite LIs.
I understand why they don't allow us to have our warden but man mine was awesome. I thought morrigan was the most romanced one...
I thought morrigan was the most romanced one...
Maybe.. i don't know if there is a poll or any official statement about who was the most romanced character in DA:O but I am pretty sure that Leliana got her fair share of admirers like anyone else.. 
Maybe.. i don't know if there is a poll or any official statement about who was the most romanced character in DA:O but I am pretty sure that Leliana got her fair share of admirers like anyone else..
well true but I thought people didnt like her being into religion that much
And I shouldn't be getting any kind of message about helping Leliana define herself at this point in her life.
Many players are already livid because they can't use their warden anymore.. just try to imagine the sh*tstorm if they had also stolen them one of their favourite LIs.
... None at all? It would be the player's own choice to romance her or not, after all. If the player doesn't want Leliana to cheat, then they simply would not romance her (or there would be an option to romance her but have her turn the Inquisitor down).
Or maybe it would be based on hardened or unhardened in Origins.
That's just how she is
Even if that's true, getting a letter about it is cheesy. It draws attention to the issue. Needlessly, in fact.
And I shouldn't be getting any kind of message about helping Leliana define herself at this point in her life.
yeah I'm going to gracefully drop out of this convo because either you're a terrible lover in real life or you don't understand grief or you just want to have an issue here. in any event, i have nothing more to say on the matter.
But the Hero would have sent Leliana a letter of encouragement. So why does it fall on the Inquisitor to guide her? And not saying the plot to guide her should not be there, but it should NOT have to be explained to the player as if Leliana is a child who needs someone to hold her hand and walk her through these things.
Just have her light or dark path quest, and let the player pick. No need to state that she needs the Inquisitor to help her choose. Just let the influence happen naturally, like with other characters.
And again, a romance plot would have been fine here.
I think romance wise the most sense would have made with a dead warden, doesn't matter if she romanced him or not but it would have still made her more cautious. Plus the whole deal with Justinia's death, her "spirit" helping Inquisitor. Plus her being the spymaster who better to keep a relationship secret?
I've never really liked Leliana, and the more she appears, the more I dislike her.
Doesn't help that in the hell-future, after watching one of her best friends and her love interest die to protect her, the game thinks my character should be focused on watching the lady she hasn't said more than 2 sentences to die. The characters I actually care about get killed off screen, the one I don't gets an entire 30 second cutscene of fighting whilst my character stares on looking horrified.
It's exactly the same as in Mass Effect, when my character is apparently thinking about Liara of all people right before the end.
What I don't get is why you are pushed into hardening or unhardened Lilly. I felt like, "Did I not do this **** before - say in Origins?"
I don't mind being giving such a choice, but to do so with the same character I feel like, what was the freaking point in the first place?
What in DA4 are we going to have to travel to wherever Lilly is and harden or unharden her? 
I think your dead Warden playthrough really fits with her character in general. You could see all of her change in character, in light of that, I think?
Other than that, she's also a potential Divine.. that's pretty huge compared to any Morrigan content. She's also one with a moral angle that Viv/Cass don't have. You could really change what brand of Divine she is.
She also has a role in everything related to Dragon Age (except Stolen Throne and Calling). I don't think there's a character out there with more content.
and DAA also she is not there,but there is wynne
Life's hard when u're gf is 2d ;_;
and DAA also she is not there,but there is wynne
Well she and Zev at least send letters 
It's the first time we hear of her working with the Divine.
Well... it always bugged me how easily Leliana ignores her romanced Warden in Inquisition. She seems a completely different person altogether... if she would had been romanceable I certainly had felt betrayed. One more step forward the detachment and indifference devs show towards Origins, in fact.
There is some point... you ask Leliana about the wardens in Ferelden and she says nothing about the Warden. Even worse, you ask about her past and she talks about her time as a bard, then the time she stays in Lothering and then, she simply leaps to "Then, after the blight...", completely ignoring all the events in Origins.
Don't take me wrong, I like Inquisition, but the treatment of Origins and the Warden in this game feels terrible. A romanceable Leliana would be even worse.
It seems odd that the warden and Morrigan remains together instead of the warden and Leliana. For many of us that's plain backwards since we romanced Leliana in DA:O and she even mentions she never wants that love to end. In my DA:O endings my warden and Leliana leaves to travel the world and in the ending of DA:A it mentions that the warden reunites with the redheaded bard and they are seen together in Denerim. In DA:2 she even mentions their love affair. In DA:I nothing.. That's just plain wrong.
Well... it always bugged me how easily Leliana ignores her romanced Warden in Inquisition. She seems a completely different person altogether... if she would had been romanceable I certainly had felt betrayed. One more step forward the detachment and indifference devs show towards Origins, in fact.
There is some point... you ask Leliana about the wardens in Ferelden and she says nothing about the Warden. Even worse, you ask about her past and she talks about her time as a bard, then the time she stays in Lothering and then, she simply leaps to "Then, after the blight...", completely ignoring all the events in Origins.
Don't take me wrong, I like Inquisition, but the treatment of Origins and the Warden in this game feels terrible. A romanceable Leliana would be even worse.
My romanced Leliana has almost the same line (paraphrased) "He's on a quest right now, but we will be together again, never to part after" that romanced warden Alistair and Morrigan do. In addition, my Cousland import had my boy married to Anora and Leliana says "he married her, but he loves me!" indicating she's very aware of his feelings toward her. In Halamshiral she's introduced as the mistress of the king of Ferelden and a veteran of the fifth blight, something she would have to have told them in order to be properly introduced. And in the end, he rejoined her (she was Divine).
Unromanced Leliana spoke of my (canon) Surana as 'a good friend, but that was a long time ago'. How does blathering on and on about the Warden serve her now when she has an Inquisition to look after as a spymaster? The generally loquacious Leliana of Origins has become a lot more reserved than she used to be, kind of a necessary trait to have developed when you are the keeper of secrets.
Even "killed Leliana" speaks of the 'hero' of Ferelden (in less than glowing/affectionate terms).
I think they gave her just the right amount of dialogue concerning someone she may not have spoken to in over a decade.
Even if that's true, getting a letter about it is cheesy. It draws attention to the issue. Needlessly, in fact.
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