I knew what he was doing too, but if you are reeling from the conversation or not focusing, you can miss a lot of stuff.
Who doesn't focus on the final confrontation of the game? 
Or on someone saying they are about to save your life whilst you are dying?
I could understand if it was hidden earlier in the conversation or in a specific branch or something like that. But it's right before he does it. And then the magic effect on your hand changes and starts falling off once he does it.
Who doesn't focus on the final confrontation of the game?
I could understand if it was hidden earlier in the conversation or in a specific branch or something like that. But it's right before he does it. And then the magic effect on your hand changes and starts falling off once he does it.
I saw a lot of PT's online and many, especially those who romanced him were pretty far gone. Some even thought he chopped your arm off. Problem is the kiss scene is the worst because he removes it during the kiss and you don't see anything but glowing eyes for a second. Basically those who romanced him seem to have missed it especially based on the fanfics I've seen. I romanced him but I tend to be very thorough so I listened and watched every detail.
I saw a lot of PT's online and many, especially those who romanced him were pretty far gone. Some even thought he chopped your arm off. Problem is the kiss scene is the worst because he removes during the kiss and you don't see anything but glowing eyes for a second. Basically those who romanced him seem to have missed it especially based on the fanfics I've seen. I romanced him but I tend to be very thorough so I listened and watched everything in detail.
I romanced him too, and I just don't understand how someone can get "He left me to die" from "I'm going to save you". He literally states it moments before he does it.
I romanced him too, and I just don't understand how someone can get "He left me to die" from "I'm going to save you". He literally states it moments before he does it.
What they see and hear is sometimes missed if you focus more on one than the other I guess. We see him kiss you and then walk away. If you miss the glowing eye thing it looks like he did nothing. As a friend he asks for your hand and as a rival he nearly yanks it out of its socket lol
But yeah I saw so many fics that took it that way and it was pretty heavy hate.
What they see and hear is sometimes missed if you focus more on one than the other I guess. We see him kiss you and then walk away. If you miss the glowing eye thing it looks like he did nothing. As a friend he asks for your hand and as a rival he nearly yanks it out of its socket lol
But yeah I saw so many fics that took it that way and it was pretty heavy hate.
I guess I can see how someone misses it if they completely ignore the dialogue, and pay no attention to any visual effect on the screen?
But then I'm not sure how much obvious showing him holding your hand would be as opposed to him literally stating he is going to save your life - him holding your hand could just be interpreted as him taking the mark, not necessarily as stopping you from dying. It's hard to interpret him stating he is going to save your life in any other way.
On a completely unrelated note, I absolutely adore that scene with a Solas that hates you. 
He just slips in so many snide remarks between the normal lines.
I guess I can see how someone misses it if they completely ignore the dialogue, and pay no attention to any visual effect on the screen?
But then I'm not sure how much obvious showing him holding your hand would be as opposed to him literally stating he is going to save your life - him holding your hand could just be interpreted as him taking the mark, not necessarily as stopping you from dying. It's hard to interpret him stating he is going to save your life in any other way.
On a completely unrelated note, I absolutely adore that scene with a Solas that hates you.
I think by then anything out of his mouth is not taken positively by the player after his reveal. Lol not me, but many others.
Oh yes best ever! And the 15 seconds TLDR is priceless!
I think by then anything out of his mouth is not taken positively by the player after his reveal. Lol not me, but many others.
Oh yes best ever! And the 15 seconds TLDR is priceless!
I have that 15 second TLDR saved at the top of my internet bookmarks for when I fell bad about the whole Solas situation! Never fails to make me laugh! 
Great post OP, and I completely agree that it was a huge missed opportunity. I feel like DA:I was much more focused on action than drama, personal connection, etc...which is something I dislike. They could have written the removal of the hand in a moving way, adding depth and character development but instead I feel like they just made it disappear with no reaction as a reason to push the inquisitor aside because they're now a "cripple" and can no longer be the hero while still keeping Solas as the villain for the next game.
really i would have liked this to be that Big choice. how they should have done it is if Solas hated you, make u beg for your life or him refusing to save you. While him being your bestie or lover help you like nothing has happened.
Tho i would have liked Cassandra to act more like this in my canon (full comic http://triforcechic....e-to-draw-this)
It was rushed and forced much like the rest of the DLC. It was terrible.
I would have liked to see Cassandra run up and kneel beside her love while his arm slowly disintegrated away to both of their horror and sorrow. But she would hold his other hand and pull his head against hers away from the dying hand.
Or if the Inquisitor had no romance, he or she just sits there while the other companions run up but stay back while the Inquisitor shouts in pain and shock.
Or the Inquisitor endures it silently.
Which reminds me, they could have made that a dialogue wheel option on how to react to it.
But no, Gaspasser was poorly done.
"Different players would react differently." Er, yes. Isn't that what the emotional reaction wheel is for? Like the stoic, angry, confused, etc. options? I see no reason why there couldn't be a scene in between Solas walking away and going back to the Council where the Inquisitor is surrounded by a few people, with this reaction wheel.
As for people thinking Solas left you for dead... My screencaps of the dialogue are on another computer, but does he actually say he's saving your life? Unambiguously? Not just he wanted to save you or help you? Honest question. Because that entire last stretch of battle up to the scene with Solas I was glaring at my computer saying "This is where Laura dies. Thanks. Not." And then to his line of "We're almost out of time" my immediate reaction was "Yep. She's going to die. Maybe get warped into the Fade. Or collapse into a green black hole." I had no idea what he did to her hand, but I did notice the fingers stopped moving. I was actually scared that he's taken the anchor and paralyzed her, maybe so she "wouldn't suffer" as any remaining raw power consumed her. And then there was a fade to black. A nerve-wracking fade to black. Before Cyril and Teagan started talking, I had launched into a rant about how I'd wanted to just cut the stupid hand off this entire time. 'Oh, you want the Anchor? This glowy thing on my hand? Well, too bad! I'm cutting it off!' And then she walked calmly into screen and I was stunned into silence. Not because she'd lost her arm -- it was before the angle changed to show that -- but because this infuriating game had managed to troll me. Don't get me wrong, I love this game. It was like Cicero saying he was going to kill me all over again. "You should see your face!"
And THEN came the reveal that she lost her arm. I was... very annoyed, to put it nicely. This is what I had wanted to do the entire time, but I couldn't because... reasons.
edit: Solas' comment that he's "the only one who could have borne the mark and lived" seemed fairly clear the Inquisitor would not live.
I've written extensively on this topic, and I don't feel like doing so again, but I will say how the arm was removed was the single most aggravating part of Trespasser for me. It's not shown to be removed, though apparently you can see it done in flycam. I mean, what? Why do all that if we can't even see it? It's clear they were going for shock value, but it didn't work for me, because I was too confused as to why no one in the Exalted Council seemed to notice the Inquisitor walking in without a left hand to be shocked. It was immersion-breaking; it brought me out of the game and made me think: "What the hell, Bioware?"
Seriously, I think Trespasser was great overall, but the fact that you don't see it get removed, don't get reactions from anyone including your romance, can't even react yourself, and get no reactions about Solas either just irks me so incredibly much. Those 2 things needed to be a part of the DLC. I just hate that it's one long cutscene after you enter the last eluvian. Ugh.
/rant.
Well, hopefully if the Inquisitor returns as the protagonist of Dragon Age 4 they will have moments where you and others can react to the missing limb and/or the prosthetic replacement.
As for people thinking Solas left you for dead... My screencaps of the dialogue are on another computer, but does he actually say he's saving your life? Unambiguously? Not just he wanted to save you or help you? Honest question.
"Live well, while time remains." - Solas to a respected male human mage.
"Live well, while time remains." - Solas to a respected male human mage.
At first I thought that meant that he'd only slowed the inquisitor's death and that the mark would still be there and be lethal but he meant "live well in these few years before I destroy your world."
"Live well, while time remains." - Solas to a respected male human mage.
Again see, this is what I don't get. You killed Play-dough magister man. Saved the world. And Solas just walks away like you cannot stop him.
Um. What?
But of course Solas tries to justify not doing this because, A. claims he is no monster (which he is) and B. claims the Quizzy's death will cause more chaos.
Um...the Quizzy is in the world. You know the same world you plan on unleashing chaos. Killing him/her now or later will create just as much chaos as what is going to be released upon the world.
I know the developers were trying to set Solas up as the next villain, but at the same time they are trying not to portray him as such.
Don't get me wrong Trespasser had some interesting moments, but it seemed unnecessary to have.
If the removal of the hand was an attempt at the developers not having the anchor be involved in the next game and/or simply get rid of i was a poor way of doing so. For all the developers bluster of saying the HOF story is done, they certainly do not understand that done, means done. You don't have the HOF running all around Thedas seeking a cure for The Blight and then cannot understand why fans want the HOF to return. Stringing people along with their previous character is not good sense. If the developers want the same for the Inquisitor leave the ending of DAI as it was and just bring him/her up in codex or possibly a cameo.
I am not pissed about the loss of my character's limb. I am pissed in how it was handled. Is Stephine Myers writing this ****?
Well, I sort of ranted there, sorry!
When people ask for your hand, they usually mean... something else.
Not Solas. 
When people ask for your hand, they usually mean... something else.
Not Solas.
Well I guess my Quizzy is going to have to use her right hand for Cullen's happy time.
The thing is what bothered me most is how they kept building up and then simply breezed over the whole ending in a quick cutscene. The losing an arm thing, the whole business with the Inquisition, and really I felt that there was no other choice but to keep Inquisition together especially with such a foe on their hands. Everyone seems to have wanted to ignore that the Inquisitor just came back from a battle with an elven godling who wants to blow up the world and their main concern is whether the only force in thedas that has a proven track record is going to disband because some people are threatened by it. OH COME ON.
The thing is what bothered me most is how they kept building up and then simply breezed over the whole ending in a quick cutscene. The losing an arm thing, the whole business with the Inquisition, and really I felt that there was no other choice but to keep Inquisition together especially with such a foe on their hands. Everyone seems to have wanted to ignore that the Inquisitor just came back from a battle with an elven godling who wants to blow up the world and their main concern is whether the only force in thedas that has a proven track record is going to disband because some people are threatened by it. OH COME ON.
I fully agree. I loved playing every DA game, I know the story is not supposed to be all 'pink hearts and butterflies' but the end of this DLC was a big slap in the face for me, I finished it the day b4 yesterday and I still feel sad and somehow betrayed 
You see, I played this this game many hours (now I fell so stupid because of it), even if it was for me not so simple to immerse and care for party members and everything as in DAO or DA2 I grow to be fond of this game (it's still one of my favourites) and care for my protagonist and some other characters (Cassandra, Cullen,Leliana,Varric,Solas). DAI lack something that made me fall deep into Thedas in DAO, everything and everyone felt more distant,less personal but it had also many brilliant things and moments (like for ex. custimization, skyhold,Cassandra-Varric conversations:),sweet Cullen;), graphics). After that my character end up without an arm,with few years yet to live,the organization I've been creating whole game crumbled when still very needed and everything what katamuro said.
Ok if Solas really took away the mark why did he say " the mark will eventually kill you, drawing you out here gave me a chance to save you, at least for now." In my opinion solas could of locked the anchor, like the orb was lock.
The "at least for now" means "until you die from me doing my plans". Once he removes the Anchor, it poses no threat to your health like it was.
Right after Solas takes the Anchor, the Inquisitor's now permanently glowing green arm breaks up into primordial green plasma. I thought that made it obvious that their hand and arm below the elbow was permanently damaged by the Anchor, and that removing the Anchor caused it to break up and probably blow away like dust in the wind.
I'm also glad they don't show the Inquistor losing the arm or show their reaction to it, because a) the reveal is so much more suspenseful and dramatic as it is, and b ) you can use your imagination to... well, imagine how your Inquisitor reacted without the devs sinking lots of time, resources, voice acting, etc. into it.
Ok if Solas really took away the mark why did he say " the mark will eventually kill you, drawing you out here gave me a chance to save you, at least for now." In my opinion solas could of locked the anchor, like the orb was lock.
No, he couldn't. In the Trespasser encounter where the Inquisitor has very low approval with him, Solas reveals, "Ultimately none but I could have born the mark and lived." While he mentioned before that he could delay the Anchor spreading and killing you, he can't do it indefinitely. Eventually even he can't stop it from spreading, and it has to come off or you'll die. And he saves you "at least for now" by removing the Anchor, although you're still in mortal peril thanks to whatever Solas' future plans are.
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