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[thats1evildude]

Fable allows you to customize your character, though.

[Cantina]

Fable allows you to customize your character, though.

 

As far as I remember the first one does not.

[SentinelMacDeath]

I absolutely HATED the style of FF12 and I loved the series and played all games up to 12 and with it died my love for the whole franchise. It was such a deviation from the predecessors that I just couldn't pull through.

Personally I favor RPGs that allow me to create my own character, race, gender and all that jazz.

[thats1evildude]

As far as I remember the first one does not.

You can change hairstyles, add tattoos, and alter your appearance through good or evil choices.

From Fable 2 onward, you could choose your Hero's gender.

[Cantina]

You can change hairstyles, add tattoos, and alter your appearance through good or evil choices.

From Fable 2 onward, you could choose your Hero's gender.

 

Yes, but that's not character building.

[Toasted Llama]

thus the flaws and shortcomings were seen after the honeymoon period had ended.

 

Still stuck in the honeymoon period and I aint coming out of that, ever, at all.

 

Though I saw DAI's flaws and shortcomings from the get go, they never threw me out of the  "I ****** LOVE THIS GAME!" mode

[Ariella]

You can change hairstyles, add tattoos, and alter your appearance through good or evil choices.

From Fable 2 onward, you could choose your Hero's gender.

Fable 2 was really weird in how the whole experience you put into Strength Skill or Will then changes the appearance of the character. My Sparrow ended up with a really square chin and wide face when I put points into Strength for example.

Fable, for me, was a throwback to the old Quest for Glory games, especially the wacked sense of humor. I still think Sierra did it better.

Still stuck in the honeymoon period and I aint coming out of that, ever, at all.
 
Though I saw DAI's flaws and shortcomings from the get go, they never threw me out of the  "I ****** LOVE THIS GAME!" mode

Me too. I saw them at the freaking beginning, and honestly I had to warm up to the game a little. A part of it was the difference in graphics. The textures and everything didn't feel quite right for Dragon Age. If I'd been reviewing it the first few days, I probably would have been luke warm about DAI.

However, Jazz, a good reviewer, an honest one, plays the game and looks at both the good and the bad. And acknowledges them at the TIME OF THE REVIEW. I don't know what so hard to understand about it, since that's their job. To give honest review of games people might buy so the consumer can make a proper choice.

[thats1evildude]

Yes, but that's not character building.

 

The Hero of the Fable games has no character to speak of. They're a mute cipher. That's as close to character building as you get.

[Cantina]

The Hero of the Fable games has no character to speak of. They're a mute cipher. That's as close to character building as you get.

 

<Sighs> I really don't see the big deal to try and derail my post by making a mountain out of an ant hill. Just because you slap on a new hairstyle with Gearalt does not automatically make him Pablo from the Anderfells.

[Ariella]

The Hero of the Fable games has no character to speak of. They're a mute cipher. That's as close to character building as you get.

 

In three you get a voice, which was kinda nice, mostly because it's a damn waste to have a voice cast like F3 had to have a mute cipher. You don't get people like John Cleese, Bernard Hill, Michael Fassbender and Simon Pegg, and then not have the main character talk back. The conversation is completely scripted of course, but that's hardly unexpected from Fable where most of the communication in the last two games came from gestures. Many of them rather lewd .

 

But mostly Fable 3 isn't all that different in character building from W3.  I just found the cast more palatable than the Witcher, and it has a sense of absurdity I enjoy. But Fable 3 had it's own host of weird. Like the attempt to completely banish character screens, inventory screens and the like.

[thats1evildude]

Did you hear me arguing that Geralt wasn't a pre-built character, Cantina?

Fable is fun for its light humour intermixed with the odd bit of bone-chilling terror. But that lightness also makes it kinda forgettable.

[Cantina]

In three you get a voice, which was kinda nice, mostly because it's a damn waste to have a voice cast like F3 had to have a mute cipher. You don't get people like John Cleese, Bernard Hill, Michael Fassbender and Simon Pegg, and then not have the main character talk back. The conversation is completely scripted of course, but that's hardly unexpected from Fable where most of the communication in the last two games came from gestures. Many of them rather lewd .

 

But mostly Fable 3 isn't all that different in character building from W3.  I just found the cast more palatable than the Witcher, and it has a sense of absurdity I enjoy. But Fable 3 had it's own host of weird. Like the attempt to completely banish character screens, inventory screens and the like.

 

Ahh yes. The downfall of Peter. Good times.

[Elhanan]

A cRPG can involve a pre-created character or one that is crafted by the Player; simply prefer the additional options myself. And the more options that are removed, the less I am likely to enjoy the game. Restrict the dialogue to fewer choices, the again the less likely I am to enjoy that title. Additional auto-dialogue further limits the RP aspect of said game. Etc.

Eventually the Player has little attachment to the character at all save clicking to fire. For myself, this is no longer a RPG, and likely ceased to be enjoyable a few steps ago.

[MrMrPendragon]

Great villain? Strong cast? I don't know about that.

[Cantina]

Great villain? Strong cast? I don't know about that.

 

Agree with that. Cory was a yawner.

[Serza]

Agree with that. Cory was a yawner.

 

That was his evil genius plan. To yawn the Inquisitor to death!

 

NEVER underestimate Corypheus, or else he will yawn you to death!

[kreol1q1q]

Great villain? Strong cast? I don't know about that.

 

Great villain? Nope. Poor Corypheus was by the end of the game just sad to me. Like watching an old man suffering from dementia and senility flail about senselessly. Just sad. Though I like his backstory as detailed in that one codex where his slave comments on how he has changed. 

Strong cast however? Yes. And a resounding yes at that. The cast of Inquisition is just as good if not even better than previous DA casts. Cassandra, Dorian and Solas were magnificent, though Dorian for all his charm could have profited from a bit more depth in his party banter. The rest of the cast is great as well, easily up to par with the rest of the DA cast. I liked how I disliked certain characters for what they thought and for the beliefs they held but that I could still understand and mostly respect them. Unlike the problem-ridden slightly whiny cast of DA2 (that I adore to tiny pieces anyway), the DAI cast seems genuinely more complex.