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[KingofTime]

No seriously are you guys serious? Having playable alien races is the silliest idea ive read all year, it simply CANNOT WORK. No if or butts and it would assassinate the overall narrative for ME, which is Humanity exploring and conquering the final frontier. DA is not ME and vice versa, here are some reason why it simply wont work and why Bioware should even bother considering it.

 

- multiple races harms character development and the narrative.

 

- overall character animations become stiff and dull

 

- waste of resources that could be put elsewhere

 

-the already Human Aliens of ME would become more Human and wooden since there's only so much options to define your PC

 

-who the hell wants to play as an Asari

 

-alien characters are aren't alien at all and just humans with a palette swap, playing as them will only make it worse.

 

If you want to play alien races then play the multiplayer and stop with the whining.

[nostalgic3ctasy]

Not sure it warranted a whole new thread, but I casually agree with the statement. Let Bioware stick to what's best for ME as a whole.

[N7Jamaican]

*Sigh* Here we go

 

 

[themikefest]

Humanity #1

[Cyonan]

Since you say it's about conquering I now fully expect to be known as High Emperor Cyonan, ruler of the primitive Andromeda species.

 

I will accept nothing less.

[Kalas Magnus]

Humanity #1

tim did nothing wrong

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Someone is definitely mad.

[KingofTime]

Someone is definitely mad.

Blame the self entitlement of the BSN. Nothing but whiners who think they know whats better for a game than the actually devs. Im here to correct this attitude or at the very least attempt to.

[Cheviot]

What's your favourite type of music, OP?  Is it Alt-rock?

[KingofTime]

 

Not sure it warranted a whole new thread, but I casually agree with the statement. Let Bioware stick to what's best for ME as a whole.

The game is a year away bro this needs to be discussed, look @ DAI the devs pushed it back it year to add nonsense like bald Qunaris. I love the game but what a useless, shallow and lazy feature. Add Humans PCs suffered for it.

 

[Cyonan]

Blame the self entitlement of the BSN. Nothing but whiners who think they know whats better for a game than the actually devs. Im here to correct this attitude or at the very least attempt to.

 

To be fair, what else are we supposed to talk about?

 

All that news about the game that isn't being released?

[KaiserShep]

The only reason the animation would suffer at all is if the options available have difference in stature, which made things tricky with Inquisition when interacting with other characters. Save for the krogan, every bipedal race is the same size. Not that I think that we should have multiple race options, but just saying. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If you want to play alien races then play the multiplayer and stop with the whining.

I want to play a story with the alien species. MP doesn't provide that, so your recommendation is not a solution. Here's a better idea: Let people ask for what they want and stop with the whining. 

 

Blame the self entitlement of the BSN. Nothing but whiners who think they know whats better for a game than the actually devs. Im here to correct this attitude or at the very least attempt to.

You want to correct the attitude of whining and pretending to know what is best for a game by whining and pretending to know what's best for a game? 

 

The game is a year away bro this needs to be discussed, look @ DAI the devs pushed it back it year to add nonsense like bald Qunaris. I love the game but what a useless, shallow and lazy feature. Add Humans PCs suffered for it.

The race selection was not the reason for the year delay. The game being not even close to finished was the reason for the year delay.

[Youknow]

Ugh... I hate it when people say the same race allows better character development.

[AresKeith]

Bait set and match

[trevelyan_shep]

Sorry, couldn't hear you over your massive temper tantrum.

[Panda]

Oh boy.

 

Multiplayer is completely different from singleplayer experience so no thanks.

 

I do not know what kind of scifi those are used to who claim that humanoid aliens (Asari, Turian, Salarian and Drell) are too human. From scifi I'm used to they are more bit more inhumane than most aliens I have encountered especially look-wise.

 

Why you suddenly get to decide that that is overall narrative of ME? Cause I don't agree with that narrative at all. If that was the narrative I think developers should have started with First Contact War and make the game really about humans relations with aliens. From what I see narrative of ME:A at the moment seems to be pioneering new Galaxy. Bioware hasn't given yet reason to us why main character should be human only when doing that and not other Milky Wayan alien.

 

On your other points: simply opinions and personal feelings of the matter. You think there is something more important to use resources, fine. Not everyone thinks that.

 

Animation stiffness would depend on time used to that. In ME1-3 Bioware recycles male animation to female model that made it stiff, same with DAI with some animations. So recycling animations is what makes characters stiff if they have different kind of bodies. With Asari you would just need to use human female animation though, with Drell human male/female depending on gender and it would be fine.

[Ghost Gal]

No seriously are you guys serious? Having playable alien races is the silliest idea ive read all year, it simply CANNOT WORK. No if or butts and it would assassinate the overall narrative for ME, which is Humanity exploring and conquering the final frontier. DA is not ME and vice versa, here are some reason why it simply wont work and why Bioware should even bother considering it.

 

- multiple races harms character development and the narrative.

 

- overall character animations become stiff and dull

 

- waste of resources that could be put elsewhere

 

-the already Human Aliens of ME would become more Human and wooden since there's only so much options to define your PC

 

-who the hell wants to play as an Asari

 

-alien characters are aren't alien at all and just humans with a palette swap, playing as them will only make it worse.

 

If you want to play alien races then play the multiplayer and stop with the whining.

 

Does the fact that there are people who exist who want this offend you so dang much? And do you have to be such a massive jerk about it? You already have your way, the devs don't plan to include multiple races, so there's no need to throw a raging conniption fit over the fact that there are people out there who dare to want different things from the game than you do.

 

The things you said aren't objective facts, they're just opinions.

 

To you, multiple races would harm narrative and "character development" (yeah, because Shepard was SO well-developed). To others, it could only enrich it.

 

To you, it's a waste of resources. To other people, they can be resources well-placed and well-used.

 

To you, it would ruin PC animations. To others, the PC animation is already wooden, stiff and dull, so might as well enjoy it with different races and roleplay experiences.

 

To you, "who the hell wants to play an Asari[?]" To other people, "**** you, I do."

 

To you, aliens are just humans with color palate swaps anyway. To others, "So why have aliens in this universe at all? Why 'waste' any resources to create any aliens at all? Why not just create a universe filled with humans if it's such a big damn waste to design and animate aliens? What? They're fine to have as background decoration and sex partners, but suddenly wanting to play as one is so dang absurd?"

 

It's not objective facts you spout, just your own preferences, which you're a massive jerk about expressing. More people don't want race selection than do and the devs already intend to cater to those that don't, so there's no need to be such a huge damn jerk about it and try to shame and force people into seeing it your way.

[Keitaro57]

Yes, yes, we know that Bioware is totally unable to make a good game, you don't need to say it again. Everybody on this forum know it.

[Madrict]

I agree, multiple playable races is a waste of resources. Concentrate on humans and make it good and in depth.

[DanishViking]

it worked fine for dragon age.

[PhroXenGold]

I would love multiple races if playing as them actually felt different. If playing as a different race was a completely new experience. Playing through the game from a Turian perspective would be an interesting experience if it didn't just feel like playing a reskinned human with a dodgy accent.

 

Based on how BW did races in DA:O and DA:I, I'm completely happy with only having humans. The former had some differentiation in the orgins themselves, but after that, and through the entire of the latter, race was effectively cosmetic. You get a few odd bits of dialogue that differ, but the game still plays out the same. It's particularly bad in Inquisition, where there's absolutely no effect on the game when an elf mage claims to be the Herald of Andraste. Given how all the lore has presented the world, this should be a massive issue. But it isn't. It's no harder to get people to recognise you than if you are a human noble. People just say "oh, you're an elf" and then treat you the same.

 

Of course, to do things well with regards races would take a lot of resources, which is why they do it the half-assed way they have in the past. But even doing a half-assed implementation takes considerable time and effort, and I'd much rather that was put into doing something else well.

[Statichands]

Your avatar is silly. 

 

- multiple races harms character development and the narrative.

No it doesn't, if Bioware balance it well, they can make it work. All they need to do is mainly focus on one character. 

 

- overall character animations become stiff and dull

What? That's down to the team who animate and mold the characters. 

 

- waste of resources that could be put elsewhere

What?

 

-the already Human Aliens of ME would become more Human and wooden since there's only so much options to define your PC

"Human aliens"?

 

-who the hell wants to play as an Asari

Me and many other fans of the franchise. 

 

-alien characters are aren't alien at all and just humans with a palette swap, playing as them will only make it worse.

 

 

 

Blame the self entitlement of the BSN. Nothing but whiners who think they know whats better for a game than the actually devs. Im here to correct this attitude or at the very least attempt to.

 

 

Coming from the guy who made the "Less Story, More Exploration. Like Skyrim" thread

[KingofTime]

I want to play a story with the alien species. MP doesn't provide that, so your recommendation is not a solution. Here's a better idea: Let people ask for what they want and stop with the whining. 

 

You want to correct the attitude of whining and pretending to know what is best for a game by whining and pretending to know what's best for a game? 

 

The race selection was not the reason for the year delay. The game being not even close to finished was the reason for the year delay.

The devs knows whats best for their game and its human only for ME:A, thank god.

 

Ugh... I hate it when people say the same race allows better character development.

It does, the races in DAI where nothing but a palette swap and all the backstory were thrown away to tacky war table missions.

 

Sorry, couldn't hear you over your massive temper tantrum.

You cant hear yourself read? WTF?

 

Does the fact that there are people who exist who want this offend you so dang much? And do you have to be such a massive jerk about it? You already have your way, the devs don't plan to include multiple races, so there's no need to throw a raging conniption fit over the fact that there are people out there who dare to want different things from the game than you do.

 

The things you said aren't objective facts, they're just opinions.

 

To you, multiple races would harm narrative and "character development" (yeah, because Shepard was SO well-developed). To others, it could only enrich it.

 

To you, it's a waste of resources. To other people, they can be resources well-placed and well-used.

 

To you, it would ruin PC animations. To others, the PC animation is already wooden, stiff and dull, so might as well enjoy it with different races and roleplay experiences.

 

To you, "who the hell wants to play an Asari[?]" To other people, "**** you, I do."

 

To you, aliens are just humans with color palate swaps anyway. To others, "So why have aliens in this universe at all? Why 'waste' any resources to create any aliens at all? Why not just create a universe filled with humans if it's such a big damn waste to design and animate aliens? What? They're fine to have as background decoration and sex partners, but suddenly wanting to play as one is so dang absurd?"

 

It's not objective facts you spout, just your own preferences, which you're a massive jerk about expressing. More people don't want race selection than do and the devs already intend to cater to those that don't, so there's no need to be such a huge damn jerk about it and try to shame and force people into seeing it your way.

Wow some i a jerk know? Im giving my opinion i dont give a **** if its hurts someone feelings.

 

Yes, yes, we know that Bioware is totally unable to make a good game, you don't need to say it again. Everybody on this forum know it.

What the hell is this? Bioware has already made their best game and its DAI but its not without flaws and multiple races isnt one of them.

 

it worked fine for dragon age.

No, it did not.

 

 

Your avatar is silly. 

 

- multiple races harms character development and the narrative.

No it doesn't, if Bioware balance it well, they can make it work. All they need to do is mainly focus on one character. 

 

- overall character animations become stiff and dull

What? That's down to the team who animate and mold the characters. 

 

- waste of resources that could be put elsewhere

What?

 

-the already Human Aliens of ME would become more Human and wooden since there's only so much options to define your PC

"Human aliens"?

 

-who the hell wants to play as an Asari

Me and many other fans of the franchise. 

 

-alien characters are aren't alien at all and just humans with a palette swap, playing as them will only make it worse.

 

 

 

 

Coming from the guy who made the "Less Story, More Exploration. Like Skyrim" thread

 

Calls my avatar my stupid but has an Asari as theirs. Top kek. Also that thread is only expressing what Bioware is already doing, they already said exploration is key in ME:A so try again bub.

[fchopin]

If it is just a humanity thing and will not require other races building communities in Andromeda then playing only human makes sense.

 

But it will make the game a little boring as I don't see why any other race should come with us if that is the case.