Yet you aren't aware of your female privilege.
Somehow average white middle-class feminist girls refuse to see that they are among the most privileged groups in the world. Far more so than middle-class or lower-class white guys, who are more and more falling behind.
lower class white males have the worst start in life. in britain. according to the equality report
To be fair, we do have Other M which IS something to fear happening to any series with a female protag.
Only if someone's dense enough to let a Developer that specializes in blood and bouncy ****** write a story heavy game.
Ahem.
Only if someone's dense enough to let a Developer that specializes in blood and bouncy ****** right a story heavy game.
Ahem.
Team Ninja was not responsible for what happen in Other M, if it was not for them the game would have been worse and where against many oft he design choices Sakamoto did. Sakamoto (who was the co director of the metroid series) was in charge of the writing, direction and design.
He also tried to make the prime games non canon because he did not make them....
How does being aware of my "privilege" make more likely to believe a person's experience with discrimination? Also, aren't there more dire issues in the world than representation in the media?
Yes, yes, there are more dire issues than video games. I can simultaneously care about other issues and still criticize depictions of women in video games. Tired argument is tired.
As far as privilege affecting my perception of discrimination,here's an example:
As a white woman, I don't typically experience harassment by the police. They are generally courteous to me and don't hassle me. I could easily generalize my experience with law enforcement and assume that black people are lying when they speak of discrimination as I don't experience it. I see many white people do this everyday.
That's not 'female' privilege though. That would be class or economic privilege.
You're wrong and you're not listening.
White girls are doing far better then white boys from the same class.
It's very much female privilege. Our education system is catering more and more towards women and femininity, while masculinity is treated like a disease and boys are being punished for merely being boys, even more so if they happen to be white on top of that.
The numbers don't lie: http://www.bbc.co.uk...equality-report
Anyone consider that maybe, just maybe we see an abundance of straight white male characters starring in games because devs have complete creative freedom over such a character? That they can do whatever they want with a straight white guy and everyone won't flip their lid?
When creating a female protagonist, they have to adhere to an arbitrary checklist of things they can't do with her, otherwise it's "problematic."
She has to be "strong"
She can't be too attractive, and definitely not sexualised
She can't be too ugly either
She can't be vulnerable
She can't be placed in compromising positions, especially with men
She can't be inept
She can't be upstaged by a man at any point
She can't be mentally deficient in any way
The list goes on and on.
White male protagonists can be all of this and so much more, they can be cowardly, comically inept, lecherous, insane, insecure, a drunk etc. Why? Because male characters aren't expected to represent their entire gender, they are individuals, and are treated as such. They can be the butt of jokes, or ridiculed morons and it isn't taken as "they're taking a shot at all white guys." As long as devs are afraid to make women/LGBT characters because of the reaction they usually receive from the people who WANT their inclusion, they are going to stay with what's safe. They can make a Trevor Phillips or a Guybrush Threepwood and not be demonised for it. Imagine the reaction to a female counterpart to either of those two.
Yes, yes, there are more dire issues than video games. I can simultaneously care about other issues and still criticize depictions of women in video games. Tired argument is tired.
As far as privilege affecting my perception of discrimination,here's an example:
As a white woman, I don't typically experience harassment by the police. They are generally courteous to me and don't hassle me. I could easily generalize my experience with law enforcement and assume that black people are lying when they speak of discrimination as I don't experience it. I see many white people do this everyday.
I didn't say you couldn't criticize anything, you're free to do whatever you want, merely asking questions.
I agree, except for the bolded. Some of the most important characters in the ME series weren't white. The population of the ME series is wonderfully diverse.
You're wrong and you're not listening.
White girls are doing far better then white boys from the same class.
It's very much female privilege. Our education system is catering more and more towards women and femininity, while masculinity is treated like a disease and boys are being punished for merely being boys, even more so if they happen to be white on top of that.
The numbers don't lie: http://www.bbc.co.uk...equality-report
Your article doesn't back up your definition of 'female' privilege. You don't know what you are talking about and are making unfounded assertions. The fact that poor white males are falling behind in the UK doesn't make 'female' privilege a thing. You really need to get a handle on what you are talking about.
I wanted to adress this part real quick. That's something worthy of it's own thread. I would like to see more alien ladies right off the bat. Where it applies of course; visually and vocally there is no discernible difference between a male or female Elcor, as an example. Oh and a part of a two (or more) gender race. In short, the Asari would be cheating.The human population was wonderfully diverse. I just... really would have liked to have seen some female turians and salarians earlier on, I guess. We learned from Nyreen that turian females do serve in the military, but we didn't see any on Menae. Or in C-SEC. Etc. They didn't get around to making female models for any of the alien species until very late in the series.
Anyone consider that maybe, just maybe we see an abundance of straight white male characters starring in games because devs have complete creative freedom over such a character? That they can do whatever they want with a straight white guy and everyone won't flip their lid?
When creating a female protagonist, they have to adhere to an arbitrary checklist of things they can't do with her, otherwise it's "problematic."
She has to be "strong"
She can't be too attractive, and definitely not sexualised
She can't be too ugly either
She can't be vulnerable
She can't be placed in compromising positions, especially with men
She can't be inept
She can't be upstaged by a man at any point
She can't be mentally deficient in any way
The list goes on and on.
Guess Telltale's doing it wrong
Your article doesn't back up your definition of 'female' privilege. You don't know what you are talking about and are making unfounded assertions. The fact that poor white males are falling behind in the UK doesn't make 'female' privilege a thing. You really need to get a handle on what you are talking about.
How does it not back up my definition of female privilege? Have you looked at the numbers at all?
Why do you think boys are falling behind? And why do you think girls aren't falling behind?
The fact boys are struggling, while girls are doing just fine, is the very definition of female privilege.
Here, let me link you two more studies:
The War on Boys:
Feminism v.s Truth:
How does it not back up my definition of female privilege? Have you looked at the numbers at all?
Why do you think boys are falling behind? And why do you think girls aren't falling behind?
The fact boys are struggling, while girls are doing just fine, is the very definition of female privilege.
No, it's not the definition of privilege. You don't understand privilege at all and really need to get a better understanding of the term. I'm not denying that there seems to be a problem with UK impoverished boys but I can't blame the problem on something that doesn't exist. In fact, I haven't seen a good explanation of what is causing those boys to fall behind.
Regardless, this particular discussion is a distraction from the premise of this thread which I think is intentional. Lose one argument and throw another one out to see what sticks.
No, it's not the definition of privilege. You don't understand privilege at all and really need to get a better understanding of the term. I'm not denying that there seems to be a problem with UK impoverished boys but I can't blame the problem on something that doesn't exist. In fact, I haven't seen a good explanation of what is causing those boys to fall behind.
Regardless, this particular discussion is a distraction from the premise of this thread which I think is intentional. Lose one argument and throw another one out to see what sticks.
How is that not the definition of privilege?
So girls having the educational system tailored towards them and not having go through the same hardships as boys is not female privilege?
Yet guys having most videogames tailored towards them is male privilege?
Double standards much?
So tell me then, what your supposed definition of privilege is then. I'm curious. Because I don't think you're being consistent with your definition and you're obviously using double-standards to support your ideology.
This damn thing hasn't crashed and burned, yet? Mods shut it down, I want to see REAL ME:A threads, not bulls*** threads like "Dicks are better than t*ts (vice versa)"...
Female privilege doesn't exist Guise! Case Closed! No citation needed!
The trailer convinced me to play as a chick in F4. 1st and last time.
Also, to get back on topic:
To be perfectly fair, the reason why the Fallout 4 launch trailer works so well, is because both the male protagonist and female protagonist are their own separate character existing at the same time. They're a married couple. You basically create both the male and the female at the start of the game and then you choose who you want to play as, the other one becoming an NPC.
Also, to get back on topic:
To be perfectly fair, the reason why the Fallout 4 launch trailer works so well, is because both the male protagonist and female protagonist are their own separate character existing at the same time. They're a married couple. You basically create both the male and the female at the start of the game and then you choose who you want to play as, the other one becoming an NPC.
That's sort of disappointing. I was hoping we could lone wolf that b*tch. I don't want any of this family marriage nonsense pre-built into the character.
Team Ninja was not responsible for what happen in Other M, if it was not for them the game would have been worse and where against many oft he design choices Sakamoto did. Sakamoto (who was the co director of the metroid series) was in charge of the writing, direction and design.
He also tried to make the prime games non canon because he did not make them....
The Metroid franchise should honestly just have stayed with Retro Studios and the game would likely have been far better executed, those people have a pretty strong track record with platformers in both 3d and 2d, with Prime being regarded as one of the greatest games of all time by many.
lower class white males have the worst start in life. in britain. according to the equality report
Bollocks. I grew up unbelievably poor. It comes down to what you make of yourself.
Only if someone's dense enough to let a Developer that specializes in blood and bouncy ****** write a story heavy game.
Ahem.
Like Mr.House said, Team Ninja wasn't the one behind the story, and BW and it's fanbase are among the last that ought to be throwing stones at Dead or Alive, given the similarities in female character designs.
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I'll also argue that chicks are portrayed better in DOA, as they don't need the player's self-insert to solve their daddy issues or fix their emotional hangups with Shepard's magical penis.
Anyone consider that maybe, just maybe we see an abundance of straight white male characters starring in games because devs have complete creative freedom over such a character? That they can do whatever they want with a straight white guy and everyone won't flip their lid?
When creating a female protagonist, they have to adhere to an arbitrary checklist of things they can't do with her, otherwise it's "problematic."
She has to be "strong"
She can't be too attractive, and definitely not sexualised
She can't be too ugly either
She can't be vulnerable
She can't be placed in compromising positions, especially with men
She can't be inept
She can't be upstaged by a man at any point
She can't be mentally deficient in any way
The list goes on and on.
White male protagonists can be all of this and so much more, they can be cowardly, comically inept, lecherous, insane, insecure, a drunk etc. Why? Because male characters aren't expected to represent their entire gender, they are individuals, and are treated as such. They can be the butt of jokes, or ridiculed morons and it isn't taken as "they're taking a shot at all white guys." As long as devs are afraid to make women/LGBT characters because of the reaction they usually receive from the people who WANT their inclusion, they are going to stay with what's safe. They can make a Trevor Phillips or a Guybrush Threepwood and not be demonised for it. Imagine the reaction to a female counterpart to either of those two.
Your second part undermines your first part - because we have so many male protagonists there is less placed on them because there are so many other examples available.
As you yourself pointed out, there are even less this year than the last - so there is bound to be less variety just from a basic numbers point of view.
I'd love to see a female version of Max Payne for example - why the hell not?
One thing which you overlook is publisher pressure to create male protags regardless of the story or setting - look at the trouble Dontnod had in getting LIS published because everyone they went to wanted to change the lead to a man.
Guess Telltale's doing it wrong
According to the people who use "problematic" as an actual critique of video games, yes.
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