One is for a game that has nothing to do with DA and the other is for a game that isn't even out yet and while a BW title is unrelated to DA.
Dragon Age doesn't follow your rules. Dragon Age follows the rules set down by the development team.
You're making assumptions that are not supported by lore.
Dragon Age will become like those games if continue in it's current state...no one want medieval magic games nowadays right? Everyone want space magic shooting game...
This...
And this...
This is psionics in both cases, it is certainly not magic. Psychic powers (as in the power of the mind) has been a heavy trope in science fiction for ages now. Psychokinesis (which is the Nova Bomb is heavily representative of) is like an advanced version of the bending the spoon gimmick. It is moving matter with the power of thought. The second one is straight up Telepathy and that deals with influencing the minds of others with your own. This is the same kind of stuff we deal with in X-Men with Jean Grey and Professor X. Also it should be noted that in Destiny's case it is highly likely that the Warlock is capable of that ability BECAUSE of the advanced technology within that universe.
Plus they are entirely different game franchises (and different fictional worlds) and Dragon Age is by no mean bound by the same rules as either Destiny or ME.
Yes but the technical process are not the same.
Forging a blade is science so it is build a Northrop-Grumman B-2.
So if you are going to use a more high level of knowledge in the scientific process or camp of study,magic meaning and influence will diminish greatly.
Dragon Age will become like those games if continue in it's current state...no one want medieval magic games nowadays right? Everyone want space magic shooting game...
Bow and arrows is a primitive human weapon, but it is possible to do rapid shot in few seconds with this primitive weapon in real life, that's the limit of what human can do with this primitive weapon
But in Dragon Age : Inquisition, archery look like this...
So, logically the primitive Qunari matchlock gun will look like this...
Dragon Age will become like those games if continue in it's current state...no one want medieval magic games nowadays right? Everyone want space magic shooting game...
Bow and arrows is a primitive human weapon, but it is possible to do rapid shot in few seconds with this primitive weapon in real life, that's the limit of what human can do with this primitive weapon
So, logically the primitive Qunari matchlock gun will look like this...
When the primitive weapon that is bow and arrows become like what we see in Tempest Archer build, there is no reason why the primitive matchlock gun of the Qunari will not do and act the same
Dragon Age will soon become Mass Effect.
What is the relevence of magic?
See what i am talking about? That is why guns should not be in Dragon Age, gun powder will messed up everything and everything will fall. The very premise of this game fall, nullified by it.
Is there a reason for magic then? mages themselves will forget about magic and use guns with awesome effect maybe better than Tempest Archers. Ander prove that bomb created by sella petrae and drake poop can do awesome effect, why need magic?
Templar will also forget to drink lyrium because this gun powder stuff will do the job to kill Mages
What the hell, everyone will throw everything they curently use and start making awesome bombs.
When the primitive weapon that is bow and arrows become like what we see in Tempest Archer build, there is no reason why the primitive matchlock gun of the Qunari will not do and act the same?
Dragon Age will soon become Mass Effect.
What is the relevence of magic?
Soon become Mass Effect? The game world has quite a few centuries before the Protheans uplift the turnips of Ferelden.
@Qis: You have heard of Gameplay-Story Segregation right?
Templar will also forget to drink lyrium because this gun powder stuff will do the job to kill Mages.
You're missing the point of a Templar's use of lyrium. It's not used to kill mages; it's used to counteract the effects of hostile magic. It doesn't matter if the Templar has a knife, a crossbow or a gun. S/he will need the lyrium in order to gain an edge against magical attacks.
@Qis: You have heard of Gameplay-Story Segregation right?
That's not an excuse
You're missing the point of a Templar's use of lyrium. It's not used to kill mages; it's used to counteract the effects of hostile magic. It doesn't matter if the Templar has a knife, a crossbow or a gun. S/he will need the lyrium in order to gain an edge against magical attacks.
Why want to drink that stuff while you can use the alternative way that is safer? Mages will also forget magic and use this alternative way to against Templar. So the premise fall.
Gun powder will give the edge to against each other, why no one ever want to steal this stuff or at least it's recipe since the begining?
logic fail. Da is total just magic. The entire smith class is based on alchemy. We've long had explosives from day one. sorry but my bomb making rogue from dao says you're wrong.What i mean is the whole premise will fall, when you put science in magical world, it will destroy magic, these two just can't mix.
Everything related with magic will be nullified by the existence of gun powder, like what i already mentioned in the first post
Anders is an evidence for that, if he can create such powerful bomb using sella petrae and some drake poop, every Mages logically know that, and this alone making gun powder of Qunari not as awesome
That's not an excuse
Yes it is. Gameplay-Story Segregation is needed to make games not only feasible to make but also playable for the players and function as a story. Otherwise talking to Loghain in a cutscene after you cut off his head in combat for example would make the game no longer work. In the case of rapid firing arrows, that is to make the game more flashy for player enjoyment and help the game run by making combat work more efficiently. The games that have more realistic archery aren't the same kind of roleplaying game and operates on different mechanics.
So likewise, even if a gun rapid fires in gameplay, in the story the person with it still has to spend a minute reloading.
Dude, you clearly don't know how guns of old work. They don't even use built caterages let alone be close to a machine gun. Heck, we already have auto cross bows.When the primitive weapon that is bow and arrows become like what we see in Tempest Archer build, there is no reason why the primitive matchlock gun of the Qunari will not do and act the same
Dragon Age will soon become Mass Effect.
What is the relevence of magic?
Dude, you clearly don't know how guns of old work. They don't even use built caterages let alone be close to a machine gun. Heck, we already have auto cross bows.
Does Tempest Archer look like how bow and arrows work?
Does Tempest Archer look like how bow and arrows work?
Gameplay-Story Segregation.
Gameplay-Story Segregation.
No, just no
Why not say the same about magic?
"oh, magic is actually a trick to pull bunny from the hat, but in gameplay it look like that"
You missing the point here. Any for of science it thadus would be base in magic. Science is about figuring out how things work which is already the basis of all magical knowledge any way. Tech is not going to negate the use of mages. In fact it would enhance them. A mage in da and a biotic in me are almost no different.See what i am talking about? That is why guns should not be in Dragon Age, gun powder will messed up everything and everything will fall. The very premise of this game fall, nullified by it.
Is there a reason for magic then? mages themselves will forget about magic and use guns with awesome effect maybe better than Tempest Archers. Ander prove that bomb created by sella petrae and drake poop can do awesome effect, why need magic?
Templar will also forget to drink lyrium because this gun powder stuff will do the job to kill Mages
What the hell, everyone will throw everything they curently use and start making awesome bombs.
See what i am talking about? That is why guns should not be in Dragon Age, gun powder will messed up everything and everything will fall. The very premise of this game fall, nullified by it.
Is there a reason for magic then? mages themselves will forget about magic and use guns with awesome effect maybe better than Tempest Archers. Ander prove that bomb created by sella petrae and drake poop can do awesome effect, why need magic?
Templar will also forget to drink lyrium because this gun powder stuff will do the job to kill Mages
What the hell, everyone will throw everything they curently use and start making awesome bombs.
In the real world it took several centuries to develop modern weapons.In Thedas after 7000+ years of ruling of the elves(since before of the evanuris) and after 10 centuries of humans they are still so ignorant about other scientific development because of magic.Magic is like opium for Thedas,why they should bother to improve technology if from one side mages just click with their fingers,while non mages are worried about mages?
Sorry if someone else already mentioned this, but I couldn't let this slide. How many thousands of years do you think human civilization has existed in reality? And when did modern weapons begin to exist? (Hint: there's a huge gap. HUGE.)
No, just no
Why not say the same about magic?
"oh, magic is actually a trick to pull bunny from the hat, but in gameplay it look like that"
Gameplay-Story Segregation is applied to magic as well. Not to the extent you are saying(the passive-aggressiveness doesn't help you by the way), but it is applied. An example would be Mages being able to perform infinite spells without the use of Lyrium.
A tempest archer is using alchemy which is a science and uses magic. An archer tempest using an auto cross bow would be even more deadly.Does Tempest Archer look like how bow and arrows work?
You missing the point here. Any for of science it thadus would be base in magic. Science is about figuring out how things work which is already the basis of all magical knowledge any way. Tech is not going to negate the use of mages. In fact it would enhance them. A mage in da and a biotic in me are almost no different.
That is the reason why it will become ridiculous, it have already ridiculous it will be more ridiculous
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