Alright, Dragon Age : Call of Duty confirmed.
I am done here
Saying that gunpowder doesn't break the setting = Dragon Age should be an FPS. How do you even get to that conclusion ?
And you're the one who said "It is fine if gun powder already existed in the original game, DA:O, because it already established the world state, like Arcanum. Now, the world everything in it have lost it sense." Well, there you go. Gunpowder is mentioned in DAO, so everything is fine.
Alright, Dragon Age : Call of Duty confirmed.
I am done here
I'd hoped to say that you'd come to understand the value of research and understanding especially in regards to the definitions of the terms you use in your arguments but by the first line in your post it is apparent that your understanding and usage of the scientific method is still very lacking.
A shame but thankfully something that can be improved upon with time and a bit of effort
Saying that gunpowder doesn't break the setting = Dragon Age should be an FPS. How do you even get to that conclusion ?
And you're the one who said "It is fine if gun powder already existed in the original game, DA:O, because it already established the world state, like Arcanum. Now, the world everything in it have lost it sense." Well, there you go. Gunpowder is mentioned in DAO, so everything is fine.
Ok, fine...i never read that, but thanks for your time digging that up
You want guns or not?
I am about to suggest DA4 and onward will be first person shooter game...that's the direction of this francise anyway, so why not become fully shooter game like Mass Effect and COD...
I'm completely indifferent to guns appearing in DA. But cannons have been in DA lore since DAO.
Guns don't have to have shooter gameplay any more than bows require Elder Scrolls gameplay. That's a ridiculous stance. Take Pillars of Eternity, which is much farther from shooter territory than any DA game, yet it incorporates guns in a non-intrusive way that doesn't reduce the fantastic elements whatsoever.
You were serious about that? Ye gods.You want guns or not?
I am about to suggest DA4 and onward will be first person shooter game...that's the direction of this francise anyway, so why not become fully shooter game like Mass Effect and COD...
If this statement was followed then Star Wars would not have been made since it's universe is a combination of technological science and magic and by this logic, Harry Potter would not have been made since it's universe is a combination of both technological science and magic.
I'm not so terribly fond of this logic myself because a lot of fictional works that are, in my opinion, interesting and enjoyable would not exist and like Lex Luthor stealing forty cakes, that would be terrible.
There are many discrepensies in Star Wars and Harry Potter regarding magic vs science issues, some of it i already mentioned
Superman always win because he's super
A mage throwing fireballs is going to be a lot more accurate then someone using a musket.
A mage throwing fireballs is going to be a lot more accurate then someone using a musket.
I remember there being a codex entry in Haven about siege engines, that said that before the qunari turned up with their cannons most Thedas nations thought of siege engines (i.e. trebuchets etc) to be inferior to magic because magic was more versatile and could be deployed easier.
And unless the qunari have been developing firearms in secret, a gun as accurate as a musket is beyond what anyone is capable of making in their wildest dreams.
EDIT: Except for the Descent bolters. And Bianca.
Star Wars
The midiclorian thing destroy episode 1 to 3, why would Sifodiyas ordering clones made from a random bounty hunter instead of making clones full of midicholrian in which making super soldiers using The Force and they can be controlled by chips in their head? Storm Troopers will not be as shitty as they appear to be in episode 4 to 6
Harry Potter
They can teleport everywhere, why they using train, cars, motorcycles ect, just teleport everywhere.There is a ship that can submerge, why not just use a submarine? Harry have problem on how to breathe underwater in the tournament, why not use the diving/scuba gear? Ah there are a lot if want to make a list
Science and magic destroy each other if put into the same bottle
Star Wars
The midiclorian thing destroy episode 1 to 3, why would Sifodiyas ordering clones made from a random bounty hunter instead of making clones full of midicholrian in which making super soldiers using The Force and they can be controlled by chips in their head? Storm Troopers will be as shitty as they appear to be in episode 4 to 6
Harry Potter
They can teleport everywhere, why they using train, cars, motorcycles ect, just teleport everywhere.There is a ship that can submerge, why not just a submarine? Harry have problem on how to breathe underwater in the tournament, why not use the diving gear? Ah there are a lot if want to make a list
Science and magic destroy each other if put into the same bottle
There are lots of stupid things in the prequel trilogy, that's not a problem of magic mixing with technology, that's a problem of bad writing. There was no problem with it in the original trilogy.
Because the setting established that teleporting carries the risk of leaving part of yourself behind and is difficult. Underaged people are actually legally barred from doing it for this reason if I recall correctly. Plus many areas are warded to prevent teleporting so people that aren't supposed to be there can't just pop in. There's lots of reason for alternative transportation. Besides, the wizards in the setting generally ignore muggle technology, finding it quaint because they can do many of the same things with magic and less effort. Harry Potter actually did a pretty good job keeping the two worlds separate.
Why Sten don't suggest to The Warden "hey, my people have cannons, i know how to make them, you just need this and that, we can blow up the Archdemon and all darkspawns for that matter", but instead he only care about his sword and kill 8 people including women and children for it
If the Inquisitor is a Qunari...why i bother...but anyway, sure he/she know about cannons and how to operate them, he/she can just blast Corypheus with lots of cannons from Skyhold
Why Sten don't suggest to The Warden "hey, my people have cannons, i know how to make them, you just need this and that, we can blow up the Archdemon and all darkspawns for that matter", but instead he only care about his sword and kill 8 people including women and children for it
If the Inquisitor is a Qunari...why i bother...but anyway, sure he/she know about cannons and how to operate them, he/she can just blast Corypheus with lots of cannons from Skyhold
How would he know how to make them? He's a scout, not an engineer. Even if he was, the Qunari guard the formula jealously, he wouldn't give anything to bas.
The qunari Inquisitor was vashoth, born outside the Qun, how would they know anything?
Why Sten don't suggest to The Warden "hey, my people have cannons, i know how to make them, you just need this and that, we can blow up the Archdemon and all darkspawns for that matter", but instead he only care about his sword and kill 8 people including women and children for it
If the Inquisitor is a Qunari...why i bother...but anyway, sure he/she know about cannons and how to operate them, he/she can just blast Corypheus with lots of cannons from Skyhold
Because the Qun takes great care in ensuring that the secret behind the gaatlok is not discovered so Sten very likely does not know how to make it and even if he did, there is little to chance that he would divulge the secret of making it to people outside the Qun.
The Inquisitior is not a member of the Qun and as with Sten, even if they were a member of the Qun that would not mean that they would know the recipe to gunpowder.
@Hiemdall: Though I will say - after Tresspasser - if the formula for gaatlok isn't known worldwide I'm going to loose a little faith in the writers.
They made it very clear that from Orlais to Ostwick they recovered gaatlok barrels.
@Hiemdall: Though I will say - after Tresspasser - if the formula for gaatlok isn't knowing worldwide I'm going to loose a little faith in the writers.
It escapes me; did the Qunari encountered in Trespasser use gaatlok?
@Hiemdall: Though I will say - after Tresspasser - if the formula for gaatlok isn't knowing worldwide I'm going to loose a little faith in the writers.
Depends, having a sample of gaatlok isn't the same as knowing the process for making it.
How would he know how to make them? He's a scout, not an engineer. Even if he was, the Qunari guard the formula jealously, he wouldn't give anything to bas.
The qunari Inquisitor was vashoth, born outside the Qun, how would they know anything?
The world is in danger, demons appear everywhere, the world is about to collapse...it is the end of the world...the aliens are invading...in this state do you think USA will not use the nuke against the big UFO in the sky for the sake of all mankind...? "No, it is our secret, we will never use it ever no matter what"
Inquisition is a powerful organization that see everything and can influence everyone, what the eye is for if cannot see the potential of Qunari cannons?
The world is in danger, demons appear everywhere, the world is about to collapse...it is the end of the world...the aliens are invading...in this state do you think USA will not use the nuke against the big UFO in the sky for the sake of all mankind...? "No, it is our secret, we will never use it ever no matter what"
Inquisition is a powerful organization that see everything and can influence everyone, what the eye is for if cannot see the potential of Qunari cannons?
Um, because neither the qunari Inquisitor nor Iron Bull know the formula for gaatlok? Nor would the Qunari hand over their biggest advantage to defend bas.
And frankly, blackpowder is usable by everyone but its less destructive than a powerful mage. It isn't a nuke.
It escapes me; did the Qunari encountered in Trespasser use gaatlok?
They used a lot of it. We also get some insight into how gaatlok is made "Creating gaatlok is normally a slow process requiring much mining and careful alchemy. Venom extraction offers the only means to deliver the Dragon's Breath quickly and in large quantities." but it's not exactly a ready-to-use formula.
Anyone else get hot and bothered by this pic? One shot cannon for DA4 LI pls!
NO.
Cannons against the Archdemon in Origins? You know it could fly, right? By the time you aimed the cannon and fired, it would've flown to a different spot. Same goes with cannons against any of the dragons. Faster to throw fireballs or other magic or maybe some of those "primitive" weapons like bows?
Alright, Dragon Age : Call of Duty confirmed.
I am done here
Thank goodness.
I'm completely indifferent to guns appearing in DA. But cannons have been in DA lore since DAO.
Guns don't have to have shooter gameplay any more than bows require Elder Scrolls gameplay. That's a ridiculous stance. Take Pillars of Eternity, which is much farther from shooter territory than any DA game, yet it incorporates guns in a non-intrusive way that doesn't reduce the fantastic elements whatsoever.
Dragon Age Origins owed a great deal to the original Fallout (to the point where they joke about it in the Human Noble origin.
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