More than likely the leadership will be a mix of the main races like the Council, with the humans in equal standing. After the trilogy, there's no reason why the leadership would only be one or more of just the aliens.
What I'm really really hoping for though is that they're not an obnoxious gaggle of talking heads designed to test our patience.
Yes to human protagonist.
No to humanity as the central focus.
My true hope is that ME:A will be about the refugees (I'm calling them refugees until proven otherwise) battle for the scraps at the ass end of civilized Andromeda space. The next installment will be them trying to gain favor with the powers that be in the Andromeda Galaxy. With the last installment (assuming a trilogy) probably focusing on humanity at least gaining some measure of relevance or prominence in Andromeda - but still remaining a tiny faction in a great big new galaxy.
More than likely the leadership will be a mix of the main races like the Council, with the humans in equal standing. After the trilogy, there's no reason why the leadership would only be one or more of just the aliens.
Except for that tiny little detail that Earth now possesses the Citadel station. So if Earth were to say... do their own thing apart from the other races in the galaxy, they'll have the Citadel. It's funny how the evil human organization Cerberus was focused on ensuring Mankind would be the dominate species of the galaxy, yet they end up being that way by default in the end.
So human only player confirmed, huh? Haven't been keeping up with any news for a long time now.
Except for that tiny little detail that Earth now possesses the Citadel station. So if Earth were to say... do their own thing apart from the other races in the galaxy, they'll have the Citadel. It's funny how the evil human organization Cerberus was focused on ensuring Mankind would be the dominate species of the galaxy, yet they end up being that way by default in the end.
Somewhere out there, TIM smiles down on all of us.
Yes to human protagonist.
No to humanity as the central focus.
My true hope is that ME:A will be about the refugees (I'm calling them refugees until proven otherwise) battle for the scraps at the ass end of civilized Andromeda space. The next installment will be them trying to gain favor with the powers that be in the Andromeda Galaxy. With the last installment (assuming a trilogy) probably focusing on humanity at least gaining some measure of relevance or prominence in Andromeda - but still remaining a tiny faction in a great big new galaxy.
If that one leak is any indication, this will be the same plot over all again. Humanity uncovers another crisis involving an "Ancient" evil/artifact/one ring. This time the Remnants.. or something.
I doubt the Refugee bit would play out for long in that way. That's too down to earth. And apparently, their core fans need to feel special, messianic, and needed by the universe or everyone dies. Won't work well as a refugee just trying to get crops working and being diplomatic and ****.
Except for that tiny little detail that Earth now possesses the Citadel station. So if Earth were to say... do their own thing apart from the other races in the galaxy, they'll have the Citadel. It's funny how the evil human organization Cerberus was focused on ensuring Mankind would be the dominate species of the galaxy, yet they end up being that way by default in the end.
The Citadel remaining in orbit around Earth after ME3 doesn't mean humanity will suddenly be the dominant species, especially because Earth was hit much harder than Thessia or Sur'kesh. We don't even know if there is still a council after ME3, or if they still meet on the new citadel.
I imagine there would have to be something akin to a Council, since matters that span multiple worlds and multiple species couldn't just be overseen by any one race. Some or all would have to have representation of some sort. It could be sort of like a Galactic Senate. As for the Citadel, there's no better place to do this, since it's already a structure that exists and can be used as a major hub for all races and takes away the necessity to build something else.
I'm a bit disappointed really. We've already had the whole "humans are special" thing with the original trilogy, ME:A was supposed to be a new game with new themes. Personally I'd prefer a game focused on interspecies co operation with all of them working together to make a new home, with no single race being superior.
But oh well, I'll be fine with the story being told from a human perspective, I just hope it doesn't go down the "Humans are the best! All other races should look up to us! homosapiens FTW!" route.
I'm a bit disappointed really. We've already had the whole "humans are special" thing with the original trilogy, ME:A was supposed to be a new game with new themes. Personally I'd prefer a game focused on interspecies co operation with all of them working together to make a new home, with no single race superior.
But oh well, I'll be fine with the story being told from a human perspective, I just hope it doesn't go down the "Humans are the best! All other races should look up to us! homosapiens FTW!" route.
It'll probably be OK.
It'll just be your human character that gets the praise. Possibly with multiple LIs involved, who are in awe of your superior qualities or chosen one nature, etc..
I'm a bit disappointed really. We've already had the whole "humans are special" thing with the original trilogy, ME:A was supposed to be a new game with new themes. Personally I'd prefer a game focused on interspecies co operation with all of them working together to make a new home, with no single race superior.
But oh well, I'll be fine with the story being told from a human perspective, I just hope it doesn't go down the "Humans are the best! All other races should look up to us! homosapiens FTW!" route.
But humans weren't really special. Or rather it was only ME1 were we were special in that way. ME2 dropped it like a hot potato (especially the sheer insanity of an all human council) and replaced it with human genetic slurpee is special which is a very different kind of trope. And ME3 was very much in the humans are not special box despite the plot focusing on humanity in nonsensical ways (Earth and the Alliance got curb stomped immediately unlike the Turians and Asari).
I could have used more human stuff in ME3 actually. Grissom is just a sidenote, not a Priority quest. But I'm urged to care about Krogans and Quarians over the best and brightest of the human race.
Yes, ME2 was the weirdest culprit of the bunch...
But like I said, I think their problem in general is the protagonists themselves. Not necessarily where they come from. At least to me. Most people seem to love this.
One of the factors that made me enjoy the first ME was the element that, "humans" weren't the alpha species. In lore, we were the sibling learning their place in the new galaxy... The asari, turians, salarians were all well established, and we were only getting to understand our role. It added a semblance of realism. Yet, the wheels came off in ME2 and ME3 where this ideology was lost and Broward succumbed to the cliché to have the humans the 'alpha' species, exhibit their plotline of having the Reapers' focus on humans and the Citadel's new home at the end of ME3. While I'm fine with a human protagonist, I hope ME:A doesn't continue the "humans are holier than 'other galactic races'" ME2 and ME3 embodied. My .02.
I didn't get a 'humans are special' vibe from that trailer.
To me it seems more of a 'humans have a thirst for exploration and discovery.' More of a Star Trek vibe so I think alot of people are jumping to conclusions and making alot of assumptions based on very little info.
Would be a good trailer for a Star Wars movie or game, yeah. But it is a ME game with a lore contenaing several alien species who worked together thousand years before humanity known the Earth was not flat. Humanity is the rookie here. So why suddenly must they be the boss and have all the other species under their tumb? Geths are the best zero-g complex builder, Quarian have a long experience of long-life space travel, Asaris have launched the Concil history by discovering the Citadel... And we must forget everything to use the tired rope of "Humanity n°1" because, after all, space opera is not about alien species?
Already getting tired of ME:A before I even see it...
Well, they made them more plot relevant with the fact that they were chosen to be the next Reaper, but I don't see how they're perfect or idea. Also, they were already special in ME. Their rise in the galactic community was something no species previously did. They gained a embassy (and Spectre) and at least a seat in no time, they co-created a really advanced ship, and they saved the Citadel. They were already the galaxy superstars.
Also the fact that the focus is on humanity doesn't mean the'd be perfect or ideal in Andromeda.
Oh come on don't be so naive. The Reapers did not write Mass Effect 2, Bioware did. Bioware did not HAVE to make ME2 be all about Human's being the saviors of the galaxy which essentially what happened in ME2 and especially ME3.
Bioware did not HAVE to make Earth or "take back Earth" the main theme of ME3. Why not take back the galaxy? Why the focus on Earth? I thought the Reapers where a threat to ALL life in the galaxy? This was the vibe I got in ME1 but fast forward to ME3, it was mainly about taking back Earth with all the other homeworlds just be remote problems.
One good thing I can say about the Dragon Age series is that despite Humans being the political, social, economical, and even military power in Thedas, the game stories never make it out to have Human's as the main saviors. But with ME2 and ME3, it is ALL about humanity and how powerful they are and how much of a threat they are to the Reapers and how it will be up to them to save the galaxy.
I just hope that MEA is a story about ALL species endeavor to find new hope beyond the milky way....but just told through a human lens rather than a story about HUMANS endeavor to find new hope beyond the milky way.
One of the factors that made me enjoy the first ME was the element that, "humans" weren't the alpha species. In lore, we were the sibling learning their place in the new galaxy... The asari, turians, salarians were all well established, and we were only getting to understand our role. It added a semblance of realism. Yet, the wheels came off in ME2 and ME3 where this ideology was lost and Broward succumbed to the cliché to have the humans the 'alpha' species, exhibit their plotline of having the Reapers' focus on humans and the Citadel's new home at the end of ME3. While I'm fine with a human protagonist, I hope ME:A doesn't continue the "humans are holier than 'other galactic races'" ME2 and ME3 embodied. My .02.
Well said.
In ME: Revelation (ME1 prequel novel) as well as ME1, humans were just a small fish in a big ocean. In ME2 and ME3, they were the big fish in a small pond.
The hardcore fans (what few are left) might like a turian or asari story, but normal people will take one look and say "nope".
Of course it'll be a human story, and it should be.
There is a big big gap between human-centred story and multi-species centred story. A shooter with mostly humans and have only aliens in the background exist already and is named Halo. Don't want to play an Halo spinoff but a game in the ME world, a world filled with various species. Being able to play Asari, Turian or other bring diversity and after three whole game centred on the main and unique and totally badass and absolutely perfect human species I'm getting bored....
Oh come on don't be so naive. The Reapers did not write Mass Effect 2, Bioware did. Bioware did not HAVE to make ME2 be all about Human's being the saviors of the galaxy which essentially what happened in ME2 and especially ME3.
Bioware did not HAVE to make Earth or "take back Earth" the main theme of ME3. Why not take back the galaxy? Why the focus on Earth? I thought the Reapers where a threat to ALL life in the galaxy? This was the vibe I got in ME1 but fast forward to ME3, it was mainly about taking back Earth with all the other homeworlds just be remote problems.
One good thing I can say about the Dragon Age series is that despite Humans being the political, social, economical, and even military power in Thedas, the game stories never make it out to have Human's as the main saviors. But with ME2 and ME3, it is ALL about humanity and how powerful they are and how much of a threat they are to the Reapers and how it will be up to them to save the galaxy.
I just hope that MEA is a story about ALL species endeavor to fiSorry,nd new hope beyond the milky way....but just told through a human lens rather than a story about HUMANS endeavor to find new hope beyond the milky way.
Sorry, why am I being naive? I never implied in my post that it wasn't Bioware that picked humans to be the net Reaper or to put the focus on humanity.
This doesn't change the fact that humanity was ALREADY special in ME, due to their unique way of achieving space-faring status, due to the speed in achieving an embassy and council member status, their military strenght and their own contribution to the Normandy. Also, the role of the Alliance in saving the Citadel from the Sovereign (not to mention Shepard's own status). If you don't recognize how special and different humans were already in ME you're denying the truth.
ME2 and ME3 certainly put more focus, but let's not forget that humans in ME can achieve a nonsensical human all council. Bioware developed the IP with humans as special compared to the other species from the start.
I'm a bit disappointed really. We've already had the whole "humans are special" thing with the original trilogy, ME:A was supposed to be a new game with new themes. Personally I'd prefer a game focused on interspecies co operation with all of them working together to make a new home, with no single race being superior.
But oh well, I'll be fine with the story being told from a human perspective, I just hope it doesn't go down the "Humans are the best! All other races should look up to us! homosapiens FTW!" route.
That's what I'm hoping for, and I have to admit that I might be being a touch optimistic on it. But then I was reminded by a post on some other thread that the whole Pathfinder Initiative is an Alliance thing, which would be the equivalent of the Alliance spearheading the Crucible plans for some reason. But then it's worth remembering that by this point in the MEverse the Alliance is on the same political level as the Hierarchy and whatever the Salarian and Asari ones are called (I forget...), so them being in charge of major things isn't quite as silly as it was in previous games.
Still... we're an Alliance guy, not working for the Council at large, so I guess there is the threat of this daft 'Humanity are good at everything while other species only have one talent' thing cropping up, which I am really not fond of.
I think the series ME was less of a "humans are the center of the galaxy" and more of a "Shepard is the center of the galaxy".
Another win for the Human Master Race
Suck it Beta Aliens.
Worth clicking on this thread alone, that gif. 
Well said.
In ME: Revelation (ME1 prequel novel) as well as ME1, humans were just a small fish in a big ocean. In ME2 and ME3, they were the big fish in a small pond.
Wait, wasn't this the same human race that in the span of a few decades managed to attain political status/power that other races had spent lifetimes trying to achieve, which everyone goes out of their way to comment on?
ME1 wasn't about humans as a small fish in a big ocean, it was humanity right on the cusp of becoming a galactic super power. Luckily ME2 retconned the renegade ending, but that aspect of ME1 also didn't do a great job of downplaying the idea that humans are special/awesome. If ME2 was about how amazing humans were, it was only because ME1 basically told us that this was where the writers were going.
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