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#426
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Yeah this is pretty dam bad, and outright silly.

 

"We need to build military strength and resources!"

"Lets make a giant ship filled with a crap load of people and military personal that will take massive resources to send them out of the galaxy."

 

da derrrp

Yes, It's not like the galaxy was over, there was some ''hope'', and what they would do in a new territory, creating a new civilization? I do not know, although make sense at the same time does not. 



#427
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Looks like a Collector ship, but replacing the hive stuff with stuff from the Citadel races. 

Which you know, would have been helpful if it was made into combat ready to fight the reapers instead of wasting resources.



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And the Protheans went with a bunker on a vulnerable planet instead of an Ark because...?

Well protheans could be in andromera, but bunker could be just one of the survival methods they tried.
They were pretty scattered across galaxy, meaning they are not completely aware what other prothean worlds were doing.

 

Some species of the current cycle could be doing bunkers too.



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Yeah this is pretty dam bad, and outright silly.

 

"We need to build military strength and resources!"

"Lets make a giant ship filled with a crap load of people and military personal that will take massive resources to send them out of the galaxy."

 

da derrrp

 

If it's the backup plan for the survival of the council races, then it's assumed the war would be lost regardless if there was one more ship on our side. The whole point of a plan B is to prepare for the worst and do something with what you have left and not throw in good money after bad.


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#430
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Hello everyone. Let's keep it civil in here. Thank you.


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#431
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Looks like a Collector ship, but replacing the hive stuff with stuff from the Citadel races. 

Also add in four Citadel arms and a Presidium torus in the back



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Yeah this is pretty dam bad, and outright silly.

"We need to build military strength and resources!"
"Lets make a giant ship filled with a crap load of people and military personal that will take massive resources to send them out of the galaxy."

da derrrp

This depends on the relative resources. If that ship takes, say, 1% of the resources of the available resources, it looks like an awfully good bet to try both. The chance of that 1% causing the Crucible project to fail is pretty small, and if the Crucible does fail -- either it was never going to work, Shepard CMFs trying to get to the controls, or Shepard derps and Refuses -- you still have plan B.

#433
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It makes the setting more dramatic and desperate if they do it this way. It's a good callback to the events of the original trilogy and it explains why so many people are essentially giving up their existing lives to go on a mission they might never return from when there is still plenty of stuff to explore in the Milky Way if curiosity was the only incentive. Now the crew has no choice but to succeed in unfamiliar space and that tone can be carried throughout the whole story.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, I would like that, but at some point they will have to make contact with milky galaxy in this case, and then we have to have some relevant news or something. I want to see how the bioware will deal with this problem.



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This depends on the relative resources. If that ship takes, say, 1% of the resources of the available resources, it looks like an awfully good bet to try both. The chance of that 1% causing the Crucible oroject to fail is pretty small, and if the Cruvcible does fail -- either ir was never going to work, Shepard CMFs trying to get to the controls, or Shepard derps and Refuses -- you still have plan B.

 

Time, manpower.  These are things that are not in high quantity.  Building a large ship like a dreadnought takes years.  This is almost certainly much, much larger.

 

Edit:  And this doesn't even take into account integrating the new technology that would be needed just to make the trip


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#435
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The salarians for example don't support the crucible project, they could have easily poured all their resources into some ark project. The asari and the turians don't help building the crucible at the beginning of the war either.

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This depends on the relative resources. If that ship takes, say, 1% of the resources of the available resources, it looks like an awfully good bet to try both. The chance of that 1% causing the Crucible project to fail is pretty small, and if the Crucible does fail -- either it was never going to work, Shepard CMFs trying to get to the controls, or Shepard derps and Refuses -- you still have plan B.

Here's the thing the ark ship looks just as big (if not bigger) as the crucible. There is no way that such a project can co exist along side the crucible which is enough to risk bankrupting the galaxy in addition to the rapidly dwindling resources.


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It's also possible that the ship was created before the Reaper threat


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It's stated time and time again everyone is putting everything in this war, there was no plan B, never even a hint of it. Yet all of a sudden THERE was a plan B. It's a retcon, plain and simple along with lazy writing at best.


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It's also possible that the ship was created before the Reaper threat

It would pretty much have to be.

 

Which means it would almost certainly not have any Reaper ex Machina technology in it.


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Time, manpower.  These are things that are not in high quantity.  Building a large ship like a dreadnought takes years.  This is almost certainly much, much larger.
 
Edit:  And this doesn't even take into account integrating the new technology that would be needed just to make the trip


Or it could have already been in the works, just repurposed as a life boat for the Milky Way.
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It would pretty much have to be.

 

Which means it would almost certainly not have any Reaper ex Machina technology in it.

 

Unless they retrofitted the ship when it became relevant 



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The salarians for example don't support the crucible project, they could have easily poured all their resources into some ark project. The asari and the turians don't help building the crucible at the beginning of the war either.

Because they are busy fighting the Reapers and keeping them at bay the best as possible. Resources, manpower and time are NOT disposable.


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Don't get me wrong, I love Andromeda's premise, but after watching the last teaser, leaving Milky Way and everything we knew is kinda...depressing, not mentioning that Shepard's speech was such a mood kiler. She/He sounded hopeless. Feels.

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Unless they retrofitted the ship when it became relevant 

Because slapping untested Reaper tech onto a ship never goes wrong  ;)


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Because slapping untested Reaper tech onto a ship never goes wrong  ;)

 

Neither does using a unknown untested Crucible ;)



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Neither does using a unknown untested Crucible ;)

So you agree with me, then.  Good  :D



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Because they are busy fighting the Reapers and keeping them at bay the best as possible. Resources, manpower and time are NOT disposable.

 

Salarians were never attacked until something before or after the assault on the Cerberus base



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Don't get me wrong, I love Andromeda's premise, but after watching the last teaser, leaving Milky Way and everything we knew is kinda...depressing, not mentioning that Shepard's speech was such a mood kiler. She/He sounded hopeless. Feels.

Let it go, let it go.



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It's stated time and time again everyone is putting everything in this war, there was no plan B, never even a hint of it. Yet all of a sudden THERE was a plan B. It's a retcon, plain and simple along with lazy writing at best.

 

That's true. Although if they're  also appealing to the Citadel crowd, I doubt that matters to anyone. ME3 (and Citadel) as written don't make any bloody sense in the context of everyone putting everything into the war.  

 

At the end of the day, while a weak solution, it's no worse than the alternate universe approach.
 



#450
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Salarians were never attacked until something before or after the assault on the Cerberus base

Salarians where still fighting tho, this stated a bunch of times. STG outright decides to help the Alliance.