...I don't think you know how math or space work.
Feel free to explain it correclty then, ya know, more productive than "u don't get it bye" comment. Just don't forget the little fact of being able to move at 10k times the speed of light as going by the lore
...I don't think you know how math or space work.
Neither does BioWare or Gene Roddenberry or any other sci fi giant in the industry.
Feel free to explain it correclty then, ya know, more productive than "u don't get it bye" comment. Just don't forget the little fact of being able to move at 10k times the speed of light as going by the lore
Reapers are billion years old and travel at 10k times speed of light. They would be in every galaxy in the universe by now with massive fleet for each with no need to move from one to another.
The distance between Earth and the edge of the observable universe (read: observable) universe is 46 billion lightyears. Reapers can fly at around 30 lightyears per day. Assuming "year" refers to Earth years, it would take the Reapers 1,533,333,333 (rounded down to the nearest whole day) days to get from Earth to the edge of the observable universe. 1,533,333,333 days is roughly 42 million years.
And this is only what we can see in space. The total size and diameter of the universe are almost certainly larger, and one must remember that the Earth doesn't sit directly in the center of the universe, so the 46 billion lightyear figure could very easily only refer to the side closest to us, and in fact be far, far larger going the other way.
So, assuming all of the above (because none of this is concrete fact), it would take them 42 million years of (nonstop) travel to reach the edge of the known universe only from Earth. And remember that they come to harvest us every 50,000 years. 1 billion divided by 50,000 is 20,000, and it's known that some harvests can last for well more than a century.
What then, do you propose that the Reapers are constantly flying around the known universe, never ever stopping to refuel or recharge or whatever they need to do to keep their batteries going, so to speak? With all the speedbumps like abnormally long harvests and the sheer travel time between point A and point B, I very highly doubt the Reapers will EVER be in "every galaxy in the universe", especially since stars are always being formed (in a cosmic sense), and a galaxy is, for all intents and purposes, just a mass collection of stars with whatever other celestial debris that is collected along the way.
Even with only what we are able to see, I'm not sure many people really understand the sheer size and immensity of space.
The universe is ever expanding, new galaxies are born all the time, galaxies die all the time, one new Reaper every 50,000 years makes such expansion virtually impossible without focusing the bulk of the fleet on single galaxies at a time, and 10x the speed of light doesn't mean much in terms of universal travel when you have to stop at each galaxy to harvest along the way.
Galaxies aren't really born anymore, matter in the universe has been already "distributed" during Big Band. Most galaxies are formed. Collisions of galaxies and merges form new ones but glaxies don't pop in middle of empty space between clusters/superclusters, the matter has already been absorbed within sorrouding areas that formed current galaxies. And harvest takes thme few centuries during which they use replenish resources and make new Reapers using technology and stuff already "available" in the galaxy.
Even with only what we are able to see, I'm not sure many people really understand the sheer size and immensity of space.
Probably not. But if their interest lies in saving of organic life in the entire universe, it makes no sense they wouldn't already be spread around billions of sorrounding galaxies after such long time. They "breed" and refuel in just few hundred years using "free" resources during harvests. And it only takes few hundred years if even that long. We're not talking an army of machines static in numbers, they always make both new Capitol ships and smaller Reapers.
Even with only what we are able to see, I'm not sure many people really understand the sheer size and immensity of space.
the human mind probably cant understand it. just too big.
Galaxies aren't really born anymore, matter in the universe has been already "distributed" during Big Band. Most galaxies are formed. Collisions of galaxies and merges form new ones but glaxies don't pop in middle of empty space between clusters/superclusters, the matter has already been absorbed within sorrouding areas that formed current galaxies. And harvest takes thme few centuries during which they use replenish resources and make new Reapers using technology and stuff already "available" in the galaxy.
Probably not. But if their interest lies in saving of organic life in the entire universe, it makes no sense they wouldn't already be spread around billions of sorrounding galaxies after such long time. They "breed" and refuel in just few hundred years using "free" resources during harvests. And it only takes few hundred years if even that long. We're not talking an army of machines static in numbers, they always make both new Capitol ships and smaller Reapers.
New galaxies are born out of dead galaxies. The energy and matter of dead/dying galaxies doesn't disappear. The universe is highly dynamic and ever changing.
And harvests would take thousands of years in a new galaxy, if the harvest happens at all. To reach all of these galaxies, as you suggest, the Reapers would have to spread their numbers as thin as possible. Even with 100 Reapers the Prothean harvest would have taken thousands and thousands of years. And what of highly advanced species in galaxies that haven't been harvested before? Numerous Reapers were killed in our galaxy during the Reaper's reign, and that was with only 50,000 years to advance.
The math here is absurd. Billions of Reapers, travelling for tens of millions of years, harvesting for millenia, making one new reaper every 50,000 years, yet somehow always sticking around the same galaxies to come back every 50,000 years.
It makes zero sense. And the Reapers are stupid and illogical anyhow. "Preserve life" by destroying it? "Protect organic life from synthetics" by extinguishing organic life with the help of synthetic lifeforms?
In early universe, not at the moment. Galaxies don't die fast at all with most of their stars being red dwars that live for 10+ billion years, not much less than the universe itself. Milky Way itself has stars that are 13 billion years old
You're talking "extra" harvests taking hunders of years or thousands, I'm talking scale of billion of years, the lifespan of Reapers. What is absurd is assuming they would have no time or means or time to spread all over our galaxy cluster after such long time if they were interested in it.
And it doesn't matter if their idea of preserving life is stupid or not. They do it and constantly increase their numbers. If there was enough of them 500 million years ago to succesfully harvest the Milky Way, they could surely spare "a few" to start covering Magellanic Clouds, then Andromeda & Triangulum, then the rest of VIrgo Supercluster.
The distance between Earth and the edge of the observable universe (read: observable) universe is 46 billion lightyears. Reapers can fly at around 30 lightyears per day. Assuming "year" refers to Earth years, it would take the Reapers 1,533,333,333 (rounded down to the nearest whole day) days to get from Earth to the edge of the observable universe. 1,533,333,333 days is roughly 42 million years.
And this is only what we can see in space. The total size and diameter of the universe are almost certainly larger, and one must remember that the Earth doesn't sit directly in the center of the universe, so the 46 billion lightyear figure could very easily only refer to the side closest to us, and in fact be far, far larger going the other way.
So, assuming all of the above (because none of this is concrete fact), it would take them 42 million years of (nonstop) travel to reach the edge of the known universe only from Earth. And remember that they come to harvest us every 50,000 years. 1 billion divided by 50,000 is 20,000, and it's known that some harvests can last for well more than a century.
What then, do you propose that the Reapers are constantly flying around the known universe, never ever stopping to refuel or recharge or whatever they need to do to keep their batteries going, so to speak? With all the speedbumps like abnormally long harvests and the sheer travel time between point A and point B, I very highly doubt the Reapers will EVER be in "every galaxy in the universe", especially since stars are always being formed (in a cosmic sense), and a galaxy is, for all intents and purposes, just a mass collection of stars with whatever other celestial debris that is collected along the way.
Even with only what we are able to see, I'm not sure many people really understand the sheer size and immensity of space.
And everyone think reapers are invincible gods they are just ships with AI. Our galaxy is "perfectly" controlled environment by reapers. If they go to other galaxy's eventually they will bite more than they can chew, and get reaper's ass kicked so hard.
And it doesn't matter if their idea of preserving life is stupid or not. They do it and constantly increase their numbers. If there was enough of them 500 million years ago to succesfully harvest the Milky Way, they could surely spare "a few" to start covering Magellanic Clouds, then Andromeda & Triangulum, then the rest of VIrgo Supercluster.
They had enough numbers to harvest the Milky Way before they even had actual Reapers.
They had enough numbers to harvest the Milky Way before they even had actual Reapers.
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He's referring to the first cycle when the Intelligence harvested the Leviathans to create Harbinger.
He's referring to the first cycle when the Intelligence harvested the Leviathans to create Harbinger.
Well that's quite the leap. A Reaper is the size of like, 4 Leviathans. The Catalyst wouldn't have to harvest the entire Leviathan race to make Harbinger, let alone the entire galaxy.
To be honest, the harvest of the Leviathans didn't even really sound like a harvest. It sounds like the Intelligence did a Skynet and used Leviathan installations to wipe out the Leviathans and their thralls while he harvested some to make Harbinger. Just like how despite the Leviathans calling what the Reapers do to us a harvest, they barely harvest any of us. 99.9999% of the cycle's population isn't harvested but merely wiped out.
Well that's quite the leap. A Reaper is the size of like, 4 Leviathans. The Catalyst wouldn't have to harvest the entire Leviathan race to make Harbinger, let alone the entire galaxy.
Still managed to drive them (and all their slave races) to the edge of extinction without Reapers.
ALl they'd need are to send more such machines to other galaxies, and the process starts all over again.
Still managed to drive them (and all their slave races) to the edge of extinction without Reapers.
ALl they'd need are to send more such machines to other galaxies, and the process starts all over again.
Or more likely, they made smaller reapers from the Leviathan's thrall races.
Remember, they only make one of the larger ones per cycle, but if I'm remembering right they make smaller Reapers from the other species.
Pretty much, the "lesser races" became Destroyers and the "Superior races" became Sovereign class Reapers
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