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[In Exile]

I already said the ability to decide how the act affects you would be vital.

Dog tags are collected from the dead. That's why there are 2 of them. One to keep on the body for identification, one to pass along to family. Your complaint is really silly.

 

But why would the protagonist take it, and then keep it? Let's say it's standard military procedure to, immediately after people die, take their tags. I have no idea, since I never served. But even if that's true, why would then keeping them for any non-zero period of time apart from when you take them to whatever processing center they're supposed to be taken to? And as a follow up, if you somehow don't take them to be processed, then wouldn't some administrative officer come after you? 

[GnusmasTHX]

My point is that picking them up is an option that might not make sense to people. Like, it would never occur to me to ever do it, even if I deeply cared about a person, because I just do not have relationships with physical objects like that (i.e., memento's). 

 

You're not your PC, though... Like you wouldn't have a clue how to fire a firearm in ME1, but you did. If your character is military he/she knows the significance of the tag and the procedure for identification/confirmation.

[Ahglock]

What's your thought about t'soni having Shepard's armor in a glass case on display like its some kind of trophy?

That was super creepy stalker mode.

[Gothfather]

They should really just record several common first names into the voice acting, and limit the usage in dialogue to prevent an overburden on VO work. 

 

Example: take 50 common male names, 50 common female, 25 gender neutral - and only use the first name in key scenes. So most characters will use Ryder, in the same way Shepard was used in the original trilogy, but there will be a few scenes (like in the romance scenes) where a character will have a short line using the first name. Maybe a love interest saying, "I'm here for you, [insert name]." It's not that hard for a few different VO actors to record "I'm here for you, [insert name]" 125 times with a couple of takes on each name. That's 250 takes of a line that takes two seconds - that's maybe a half day's work for the entire cast. 

 

Also, I can see it being used early and late in the game when your character (which by all indications will be military) is recognized in a formal or military setting where they use the character's full name ("Lieutenant Commander Jane Ryder").

 

Even if it was only used a handful of times, I think the effect could be powerful in further cementing a player's feeling that they created a unique individual who shapes a galaxy. 

 

Or they should just Pick a name for you.

 

Seriously I don't know about anyone else but I didn't pick the name I was given. Why do RPGs REQUIRE that the player pick the name? It doesn't actually make sense from the stand point of how people get names and if people are that insecure that they require to name the character before it is their character vs, Bioware's then I ask this... Are you not your own person even though your mother and father named you and you had no input at all?

 

Simply because it has always been done doesn't mean it should remain as such. There is zero reason from a development perspective and a reality perspective to require that the player picks the name of their character when 99.9999% of the entire population of the planet where given their names with no say what so ever. We only get to pick our names in video games because it is a tradition but now that technology is such that text is no longer the key form of communication is games it is time we change things so something far more realistic and a lot cheaper to implement than saying 125 extra line of dialogue for limited places in the game. Just give me one name.

 

This is something that other games are doing that are not RPGs there is zero reason for RPGs to blindly follow tradition. Just because something has always been done like X doesn't mean it is the best way to do things nor that we should blinding keep doing X.

[Ahglock]

But why would the protagonist take it, and then keep it? Let's say it's standard military procedure to, immediately after people die, take their tags. I have no idea, since I never served. But even if that's true, why would then keeping them for any non-zero period of time apart from when you take them to whatever processing center they're supposed to be taken to? And as a follow up, if you somehow don't take them to be processed, then wouldn't some administrative officer come after you?

You might be their commanding officer so you are keeping it until you can get it to the proper channel which given the whole another galaxy thing might be slow to get too.

[goishen]

I guess we should all get used to saying Ryder now instead of Shepard, eh?

 

Ryder's first name isn't used because they want it to be your Ryder.  They don't want it to be a passive movie-going experience.  Without naming and customizing their character, they have some involvement, just not as much as they would've hoped for.  At least that's what I'm guessing.  

[Killroy]

But why would the protagonist take it, and then keep it? Let's say it's standard military procedure to, immediately after people die, take their tags. I have no idea, since I never served. But even if that's true, why would then keeping them for any non-zero period of time apart from when you take them to whatever processing center they're supposed to be taken to? And as a follow up, if you somehow don't take them to be processed, then wouldn't some administrative officer come after you?

Why are you assuming that our PC keeps the dog tag forever, like it's Gollum with the Ring? The new teaser is not portraying scenes from the game. We're just getting glimpses of what's to come.

[KaiserShep]

You might be their commanding officer so you are keeping it until you can get it to the proper channel which given the whole another galaxy thing might be slow to get too.

 

If it's just the character following protocol then it doesn't really matter. 

[Cheviot]

But why would the protagonist take it, and then keep it?

Haven't you played the original Mass Effect? Shepard was all about collecting dogtags.

 

More seriously, the protag keeps it because he's returning it and the scene "leaving" Earth is actually played in reverse. The ship is returning, and probably not from Andromeda. It's part of the prologue.  That's my wild guess.

[In Exile]

You're not your PC, though... Like you wouldn't have a clue how to fire a firearm in ME1, but you did. If your character is military he/she knows the significance of the tag and the procedure for identification/confirmation.

 

Yeah, I get that now that people told me, but then it's super creepy that you'd keep them. 

[In Exile]

Why are you assuming that our PC keeps the dog tag forever, like it's Gollum with the Ring? The new teaser is not portraying scenes from the game. We're just getting glimpses of what's to come.

 

But why would the PC keep them at all, then? Like, I get not playing the trailer straight, but then why assume the tags are an actual part of the game vs. a teaser, going back to the PC = Ryder. 

[Killroy]

But why would the PC keep them at all, then? Like, I get not playing the trailer straight, but then why assume the tags are an actual part of the game vs. a teaser, going back to the PC = Ryder.

...are you being serious? You've already been told why someone would take one of Ryder's dog tags and that the teaser isn't actual scenes from the game. If the teaser were just showing us scenes right out of the game there wouldn't have been real footage and a stationary ark ship.