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[AlanC9]

Okay, let's say you destroyed all evil in the world. Only....you had to sacrifice 10000 puppies/500 kids/transformed everyone into half man, half dolphin against their will. And no, just because the ending in Synthesis doesn't show it doesn't mean there wouldn't be billions upon billions of people immediately looking down at their bodies in horror as their hands were now flippers. They would curse your (read: Shepard's) name for all eternity.

The problem with that analogy is that flippers are lousy hands. You need to come up with an analogy where people are better after Synthesis, not worse.

Doesn't mean that people couldn't still hate it, of course.

[Red of Rivia]

Actually, yeah.  We were all Commander Shepard for our own games.

 

And we didn't know squat

yes, we were, that's the problem, I do not think it was a good idea to do this, I think if we did not see any mention of it, the exploration in Andromeda in the original trilogy, Shepard should not send this message. Does not seem right, at least for magnitude of the mission.

[Andrew Lucas]

What have we been discussing for the past three pages?  Has it been Andromeda?  No.  It's been the Andromeda TEASER along with the original trilogy.
 
Next time If I make a thread stating "Andromeda is a terrible game, damn you Bioware!" before 2016 hits, feel free to use that baseless claim. Until then....

............

Whatever you say mate.

[KingofTime]

Actually, yeah.  We were all Commander Shepard for our own games.

 

And we didn't know squat

Dont expect apologist to comprehend something as basic as this.

[AresKeith]

yes, we were, that's the problem, I do not think it was a good idea to do this, I think if we did not see any mention of it, the exploration in Andromeda in the original trilogy, Shepard should not send this message. Does not seem right, at least for magnitude of the mission.

 

It's really a shame too, I liked the Shepard message but people had to over-analyze it or get upset over it

[Hudathan]

It's really a shame too, I liked the Shepard message but people had to over-analyze it or get upset over it

 

Why? Playing as Shepard is not the same as being Shepard, there are plenty of things Shepard has done that we never got to see or experience. 

[Red of Rivia]

It's really a shame too, I liked the Shepard message but people had to over-analyze it or get upset over it

Yeah, you are right... I know it was well-intentioned the video, but I think the point of view of story and etc was not a good idea, they want to ''kill'' Shepard to move forward, but they ''resurrected '' him again and he'll keep wanting to go back, they need to ''kill'' him at once.

[Tony Redgrave]

Personally I hope the launch of The Ark happens after the end of ME3.

That they just make the "wakes up in the ruins" ending canon. Then the speech in the trailer and the launch of the ship happens sometime after.

 

The Ark looks like a fusion of a Mass Relay and the Crucible. It looks way more advanced than anything any of the races in the original trilogy had.

Except for the Reapers.

 

Just a desperate hope... 

[straykat]

Why? Playing as Shepard is not the same as being Shepard, there are plenty of things Shepard has done that we never got to see or experience. 

 

This is a bit different than Shepard taking a dump in the Normandy on Thursday night. I don't need to hear about that either.

 

 

I'd think something of this (literally) world shattering scale would be spoken of better.

[AresKeith]

Personally I hope the launch of The Ark happens after the end of ME3.

That they just make the "wakes up in the ruins" ending canon. Then the speech in the trailer and the launch of the ship happens.

 

The Ark looks like a fusion of a Mass Relay and the Crucible. It looks way more advanced than anything any of the races in the original trilogy had.

 

Just my hopes... 

 

According to Lady Insanity's video it does seem like it launches at that point

 

[Vortex13]

True, but so what? The likelihood of coming within a couple of light-years of a Reaper is infinitesimal. Space is big. And if they don't come that close, the Reapers can't detect them before they enter the galaxy.

 

 

This.

 

Even if the Reapers had a ship for every single star in the Milky Way (they don't), they wouldn't even cover a trillionth of a percent of the volume of intergalactic space surrounding the Milky Way. I am leery of other elements of the teaser and game in general, but the Reapers spotting a single ship in interstellar space, let alone intergalactic space is not one of them.

[Nayt Navare]

Honestly, the trailer can't work in any way for me. Not a one.

Is it possible that it's just metaphoric? Sure.

Could Shepard have survived and this take place after the ME3 Destroy ending? Absahlootlah.

Maybe this was a message Shepard recorded, if people are stretching to make it canon, before the events of ME3, like some Alliance academy graduation speech or to OTHER explorers? I can see that.

Maybe it was a top secret, last ditch preservation mission during the Reaper War. I guess so?

Either way, a TON of options out there, no matter what you can argue. It's too ambiguous for anything else, at this point, really. The only thing we can say is that it's not canon and can't work for me because SHEPARD IS A DOOD DEAL WITH IT!!

... I'm kidding. I'm glad Femshep got some love for her fans out there, it'd be nice but unneeded to have a Maleshep video, but as it is, it brought tears to my eyes. I am so excite, as compared to the (IMHO) pointless vis from E3.

Now, granted, I could just say this message is from the future daughter of my Maleshep and his space waifu(s)....



Seriously, people, calm down. Some of you are the reasons the Bioware fanbase went from community to lynch mob....

[fraggle]

Well, in case people still ask themselves if Shepard knew about it. Guess these tweets from the Twitter thread should clear it up.

Shepard didn't know. It really only is a goodbye to fans. No retcon, no Goodbye message to people leaving on the ark or anything.

 

"User

@YanickRRoy Heya, can you guys just confirm plans haven't changed for Shep in ME:A? Teaser has people speculating

 

Yanick Roy ‏@YanickRRoy 

@user Plans haven't changed: this is Shepard signing off, wishing you/us godspeed on a new adventure"

[Umaya]

-snip-

 

I call it cheap.

[Chardonney]

Why? Playing as Shepard is not the same as being Shepard, there are plenty of things Shepard has done that we never got to see or experience. 

 

Exactly. I have zero problems with the video or the Shep's message. I think it was a nice touch.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Why? Playing as Shepard is not the same as being Shepard, there are plenty of things Shepard has done that we never got to see or experience. 

That's not the lie Bioware sold us. They said Shepard is "your character", and yet again they have them doing something "my character" wouldn't do. 

[wolfhowwl]

That's not the lie Bioware sold us. They said Shepard is "your character", and yet again they have them doing something "my character" wouldn't do. 

 

So just like ME1 and ME2 then.

[AresKeith]

That's not the lie Bioware sold us. They said Shepard is "your character", and yet again they have them doing something "my character" wouldn't do. 

 

So your character should just stand still in cryo sleep until the next game comes out?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

So just like ME1 and ME2 then.

More ME2 and ME3 for me. 

 

So your character should just stand still in cryo sleep until the next game comes out?

Well, when you are in cryo sleep you can't do anything else except lie/stand there. You don't even dream. 

[GoldenGail3]

Meh. No really, just meh. I don't think my Shepard really cares to be smart about something for once. She's long dead, so I don't really care to be honest.

[Hudathan]

That's not the lie Bioware sold us. They said Shepard is "your character", and yet again they have them doing something "my character" wouldn't do. 

 

Your character is not the same as you are the character. Shepard is under the player's control for the duration of the game, therefore Bioware's statement is 100% true. We do not control Shepard before, in between, or after any of the Mass Effect games. Therefore at the end of the day we are not Sheppard, we just get to play Shepard for three games during those specific events.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Your character is not the same as you are the character. Shepard is under the player's control for the duration of the game, therefore Bioware's statement is 100% true. We do not control Shepard before, during, or after any of the Mass Effect games, therefore at the end of the day we are not Sheppard. We just get to be Shepard for three games during those specific events.

How can the character be under our control for the duration of the game yet we do not control them during any of the games? 

 

And no, they aren't under the player's control for the duration of the game because the games are full of moments where Bioware assumes what we will do or just does what they want to happen.

[Umaya]

Your character is not the same as you are the character. Shepard is under the player's control for the duration of the game, therefore Bioware's statement is 100% true. We do not control Shepard before, in between, or after any of the Mass Effect games. Therefore at the end of the day we are not Sheppard, we just get to play Shepard for three games during those specific events.

 

You're looking more confused with every post, do yourself a favor and gaze at the sky.

[Hudathan]

How can the character be under our control for the duration of the game yet we do not control them during any of the games? 

 

And no, they aren't under the player's control for the duration of the game because the games are full of moments where Bioware assumes what we will do or just does what they want to happen.

 

Shepard was born years before the games began and there are gaps of time in between each game where we do not see him or her. Therefore, Shepard is not under player control during a majority of his or her life. Is this somehow a difficult concept?

 

With that said, events could have taken place during those gaps that the games do not cover. Events such as blessing a crew of a top secret exploration project at some point in the storyline.

 

 

You're looking more confused with every post, do yourself a favor and gaze at the sky.

 

It's not my problem that some people don't have common sense.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Shepard was born years before the games began and there are gaps of time in between each game where we do not see him or her. Therefore, Shepard is not under player control during a majority of his or her life. Is this somehow a difficult concept?

When Bioware goes around saying they are "your character, yes it is since what they say and what they do are contradictory. 

 

With that said, events could have taken place during those gaps that the games do not cover. Events such as blessing a crew of a top secret exploration project at some point in the storyline.

At least a dev at Bioware said Shepard's thing was towards the fans, not any character. So there is no point discussing this anymore. 

 

It's not my problem that some people don't have common sense.

Wow, personally insulting people who disagree with you. Yep, definitely done with you.