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[It's Vexion]

Honestly, the trailer can't work in any way for me. Not a one.

Is it possible that it's just metaphoric? Sure.

Could Shepard have survived and this take place after the ME3 Destroy ending? Absahlootlah.

Maybe this was a message Shepard recorded, if people are stretching to make it canon, before the events of ME3, like some Alliance academy graduation speech or to OTHER explorers? I can see that.

Maybe it was a top secret, last ditch preservation mission during the Reaper War. I guess so?

Either way, a TON of options out there, no matter what you can argue. It's too ambiguous for anything else, at this point, really. The only thing we can say is that it's not canon and can't work for me because SHEPARD IS A DOOD DEAL WITH IT!!

... I'm kidding. I'm glad Femshep got some love for her fans out there, it'd be nice but unneeded to have a Maleshep video, but as it is, it brought tears to my eyes. I am so excite, as compared to the (IMHO) pointless vis from E3.

Now, granted, I could just say this message is from the future daughter of my Maleshep and his space waifu(s)....



Seriously, people, calm down. Some of you are the reasons the Bioware fanbase went from community to lynch mob....

 

I agree. The intention and thought of this video was nice, but I think a lot of people are assuming quite a bit of unsubstantiated mess from this. It shows a lot of stuff with little context, so we should wait until 2016 when more information is available.

[Linkenski]

So, the new Mass Effect Andromeda teaser trailer released today. From what I can gather, it could mean that Shepard knew about the Andromeda crew and mission. 

 

BUT......WHEN did this all happen? During the Reaper invasion or after?

 

Thoughts?

 

EDIT: COULD THIS ALSO BE A METAPHORICAL SEND OFF OR STILL LITERAL?

 

From what I can tell someone got ahold of Jennifer Hale and said "Hey we need you to make a message to fans doing your Shepard character. Here's a quick script I wrote".

 

Stop obsessing so much over the canon status of an N7-day teaser that ripped off Interstellar's trailer.

[Puddi III]

Nuuu... leave alone muh shepard!

[Mercyva]

of course they should but they never had one

 

since they dident even believe shepard until the reapers was right at their doorstep.

 

so making it seem like woow they had plans for years ( to make this ark) seems lazy and makes no sense 

 

writers fault

 

 

and WHY should the council believe in shepard to actually have this ark done? with shepards status and influence, i believe many would have helped making that. and remember its about saving and finding a home for humanity and not the entire galaxy! there are more in the milky way than just the council approval. maybe shepard worked with hackett and others to make this happen. as a PLAN B if this goes south, then at least humanity and maybe other species if they actually believe in shepard came along the way for this project. maybe its a 2nd chance for whoever believes in shepard to actually LIVE.

 

note: plus do you believe that shepard just sits there doing nothing with such information? since ME1, it would have been such a burden. if the council dont see shepards vision, then its nothing new. i wholeheartedly believe that this ARK comes from shepard and not the council. he/she had help doing it. and the council deserve what came them because i would be furious if the reaper invaded and all that would've been avoidable. i think shepard had the last laugh. at least humanity will get a chance.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

and WHY should the council believe in shepard to actually have this ark done? with shepards status and influence, i believe many would have helped making that. and remember its about saving and finding a home for humanity and not the entire galaxy! there are more in the milky way than just the council approval. maybe shepard worked with hackett and others to make this happen. as a PLAN B if this goes south, then at least humanity and maybe other species if they actually believe in shepard came along the way for this project. maybe its a 2nd chance for whoever believes in shepard to actually LIVE.

The Systems Alliance didn't believe Shepard either until the Reapers started attacking human colonies before Mass Effect 3. 

[Hazegurl]

I don't mind the whole ARK thing as it makes sense to leave the Milky way at that time and not when Earth needs rebuilding.  What I do hate about the trailer is that Shepard is in it. Because it now retcons that Shep knew about this ARK.  Like Shepard had time for that. I can't picture him being okay with taking people off the Crucible project along with soldiers off the field just to build a ship that could very well end up getting blown up by Reaper forces before it takes off.  I would have liked it better if he had remained in the dark about it.

 

However, I can headcanon that the ARK leaving Earth is what prompts Harbinger to ditch the battlefield when Shepard got hurt.  Like he realized what was going on and tried to stop it but it was too late which gave Shepard the chance to enter the beam. 

[von uber]

It's funny how we appear to be the only cycle to think of an ark ship. Ho hum.

[straykat]

It's funny how we appear to be the only cycle to think of an ark ship. Ho hum.

 

Or that the Reapers themselves apparently never bothered going elsewhere with something like this.

 

I mean, the Catalyst was supposedly all concerned with vast existential issues about organics and AI, and yet it only operated on a local problem.

 

Suddenly, the humans came up with something in a few years at most that probably could have save the Reapers if they knew it.

[AresKeith]

Or that the Reapers themselves apparently never bothered going elsewhere with something like this.

 

I mean, the Catalyst was supposedly all concerned with vast existential issues about organics and AI, and yet it only operated on a local problem.

 

Suddenly, the humans came up with something in a few years at most that probably could have save the Reapers if they knew it.

 

Because nothing really implied that the Reapers go to every galaxy

[straykat]

Because nothing really implied that the Reapers go to every galaxy

 

I just said it was an existential issue. That's what implies it.

 

They are also computers and problem solvers. They wouldn't just care about limited data. They would seek out solutions where they could find it, without bias or fear.

[AresKeith]

I just said it was an existential issue. That's what implies it.

 

They are also computers and problem solvers. They wouldn't just care about limited data. They would seek out solutions where they could find it, without bias or fear.

 

Which they technically do by experimenting in their own galaxy

[straykat]

Which they technically do by experimenting in their own galaxy

 

That's limited data, like I said. The Catalyst, if it can be stated this way, was literally desperate for a solution. It ran into a wall so much so that it just came up with a half-assed idea... the Harvest. It knew itself it wasn't a final solution. Yet it sat on it's ass for a gajillion years, until Shepard came up to show the solution.

 

But I don't see why they wouldn't search more on their own in all that time. UNLESS they simply weren't capable.

 

Which I was led to believe, until this game. Now they have no excuse.

[AresKeith]

That's limited data, like I said. The Catalyst, if it can be stated this way, was literally desperate for a solution. It ran into a wall so much so that it just came up with a half-assed idea... the Harvest. It knew itself it wasn't a final solution. Yet it sat on it's ass for a gajillion years, until Shepard came up to show the solution.

 

But I don't see why they wouldn't search more on their own in all that time. UNLESS they simply weren't capable.

 

Which I was led to believe, until this game. No they have no excuse.

 

Yea the Reaper were basically galactic janitors to the Milky Way

[themikefest]

It's funny how we appear to be the only cycle to think of an ark ship. Ho hum.

I would say if it wasn't for the Prothean scientists altering that signal, this cycle would've been harvested like pass civilizations. The past cycles had no warning and when the reapers finally showed up, they had no time to build an ship/ark/whatever to flee the galaxy. But then again maybe they did and we don't know about it.

[medusa_hair]

It's just meant to reaffirm that there will be no Shepard this time. I doubt we can take much from it except the looks of the ship (cool, by the way). Let's be fair and wait and see before trying to dissect a trailer that contained about 15 seconds of not-real-life footage.

On another note, did anyone else get just a little tear in their eye as Shepard said goodbye? *sniff*

[AlanC9]

That's not the lie Bioware sold us. They said Shepard is "your character", and yet again they have them doing something "my character" wouldn't do.

Your character wouldn't tape a farewell message?

[shepskisaac]

Or that the Reapers themselves apparently never bothered going elsewhere with something like this.

 

I mean, the Catalyst was supposedly all concerned with vast existential issues about organics and AI, and yet it only operated on a local problem.

 

Suddenly, the humans came up with something in a few years at most that probably could have save the Reapers if they knew it.

Leviathans' domain only applied to MW though, so at least somehow it makes sense. But it would definitely be nice to encounter other ancient races from MW that escaped before our cycle

[Xn xN7x]

I think bioware needs to explain itself on how shepard knew this? Dev reply please?

[Suron]

Hale's voice in the trailer doesn't necessarily mean Shepard knew about the Ark....it could have simply been put there for fan-service.

 

I'll wait and see, but I do know one thing.  The Ark BETTER have been sent before the end of the War...because that's the entire point of moving to Andromeda...to avoid their own stupid endings.  If that is supposed to really be Shepard, means Shepard is not only canon female, but high EMS destroy was chosen (or possibly control I suppose)

 

regardless it's stupid if it's anything but fan-******

[Giantdeathrobot]

I'm not sure if this happens in-universe or they just wanted one final goodbye for Shepard. 

 

If it happens in-universe, they have some hefty explaining to do. You would think we would know if Shepard got wind of such an important event and recorded a message for it.

[Heimdall]

That's limited data, like I said. The Catalyst, if it can be stated this way, was literally desperate for a solution. It ran into a wall so much so that it just came up with a half-assed idea... the Harvest. It knew itself it wasn't a final solution. Yet it sat on it's ass for a gajillion years, until Shepard came up to show the solution.

 

But I don't see why they wouldn't search more on their own in all that time. UNLESS they simply weren't capable.

 

Which I was led to believe, until this game. No they have no excuse.

The reapers were kinda dumb.  They always were.

 

But I don't think their purpose wasn't existential.  It was practical.  Their makers dominated the galaxy and they wanted to solve a problem afflicting their domain.  The question was existential, but the Reapers were only concerned with it as it arose in and affected the Milky Way.

[Vegeta 77]

Might have just been a goodbye from Shep but if he knows it must be explained.

[Samahl na Revas]

Idk about retcon but I recall ME 2 and the Illusive Man jumps out at me. Also there was the hologram Shepard VI, It could all be a bit of propaganda set up to make the voyagers a bit more at ease with leaving the fight and being "survivors."

 

Call me crazy but to me it seems that the late 2015~2016 video game themes seem to be around these ideas: Wanderer, Traveler, and Survivor. There is one more but can't think of a proper name. 

[BMcDill]

Sep was the face of the war.  H/she was the symbol of Earth to many in the Milky Way.  H/She was the most famous N7 in history.  I could easily see Shep recording a "Go Team Earth" speech for the ARC crew.  Seemed right to me.

[N7Jamaican]

Doubt Shepard knew. This could have taken place before the events of ME1.  The video seemed like it was Shepard telling the fans "goodbye, and enjoy your trip."