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[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I tweedled with the AIU, who I had always somewhat built as a melee kit (tweedle is a word I looked it up.) I've happened upon a setup that I really like, a kind of two-way thing. I use the Crusader and Omni-blade, which I'm liking as a mid-long range sniping build that has big melee CQC ability.

 

 

At the moment, it's a 56366 build. I had originally opted out of TC Rank 6 because I wasn't using a shotgun in the build. Now that I am, I'm hesitant to tweak it because of the bug I've always heard of with the shotgun damage bonus under TC. I almost always play off-host.

 

So I figured I should ask what people's experience with the shotgun damage bonus from TC seems to be. Is it very badly bugged? Does it usually work with occasional off-host weirdness, like the Turian stability, or is it off-host nightmare fuel, like Shadow Strike?

 

Edit: Spoilr'd old gif because it has been replaced with a much more appropriate one.

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This was literally the only AIU gif I could find on the internet. Shame on you, internet. I will replace it with one that I make shortly, so consider it a placeholder.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Actually, while I'm asking, I'll throw out this for people's thoughts:

 

I'm choosing the ammo and second mod for the Crusader. I'm deciding between using the Shredder mod with Disruptor Ammo, or the High Caliber Barrel with AP Ammo. One is a general 25% additive damage bonus, with reasonable armour mitigation/penetration, the other is better armour mitigation/penetration with especially good damage vs shields, but no general damage bonus.

 

Of course, the Disruptor Ammo will also occasionally allow for Tech Bursts, which the AP ammo won't, but I don't think they'd be happening reliably enough to be much of a factor.

 

I'll probably try with AP ammo first, if for no other reason that the general damage bonus from the High Caliber Barrel might make Collector Troopers and Captains more manageable when they come up.

[physiolosopher]

Why not both with the trust high velocity barrel?

[Terminator Force]

What? No all 66666 clever game mechanic use on melee AIU? Will not b@ng.

[The NightMan Cometh]

I have no idea what is going on here.

[The NightMan Cometh]

Full weapons damage build..Claymore... I guess cloaking & 1 shotting a Gold Scion isn't good enough any more??

[The NightMan Cometh]

OP appears 2be drunker than I have ever appeared on BSN...minus the whole Veterans Day incident of 2014..what?  I had 5 entire days to drink.

[peddroelm]

Two problems :

1.If you break cloak with snapfreeze. (Sometimes?) No *1.25 multiplicative damage boost at all. You still get the +0.1 to the headshot multiplier if you spec snapfreeze for debuff (still multiplicative when not heatshoting).

2.If you break cloak with the shotgun some of the pellets will not get the *1.25 bonus. (probably will not affect crusader since there is only 1 projectile)

http://forum.bioware...-buggy-offhost/

There were not extensive tests (just a few shots on europe host + south asia client )so I have no idea how bad this can be.

[Alfonsedode]

i had no idea the 6th evo of eva was bugged

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Why not both with the trust high velocity barrel?

 

I don't think you can have Omniblade and HVB on at the same time.

 

Two problems :

1.If you break cloak with snapfreeze. (Sometimes?) No *1.25 multiplicative damage boost at all. You still get the +0.1 to the headshot multiplier if you spec snapfreeze for debuff (still multiplicative when not heatshoting).

2.If you break cloak with the shotgun some of the pellets will not get the *1.25 bonus. (probably will not affect crusader since there is only 1 projectile)

http://forum.bioware...-buggy-offhost/

There were not extensive tests (just a few shots on europe host + south asia client )so I have no idea how bad this can be.

 

Thanks. With the Crusader, I guess the only real issue would be breaking cloak with Snap Freeze.

[justinman114]

I thought it was only bugged if you broke cloak with SF, so I always cloak->shoot->freeze (and if I'm close enough to enemy I get a nice FE off my body with Inci ammo).

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I thought it was only bugged if you broke cloak with SF, so I always cloak->shoot->freeze (and if I'm close enough to enemy I get a nice FE off my body with Inci ammo).

 

The cooldown doesn't prevent the Snap Freeze?

[Salarian Master Race]

The cooldown doesn't prevent the Snap Freeze? Or do you use bonus power?

 

I'm sure you can do it fast enough without Bonus Power.

[Miniditka77]

I don't think you can have Omniblade and HVB on at the same time.

 

I am 99.997% certain that you can.  I'm not sure if the weight glitch still works with 2 weight-adding mods though.  Regardless, you don't really need to add any piercing on the Crusader if you don't want to.  It already has some innate piercing, and its high damage per shot means that you're not losing much damage to armor DR.  Besides, shotgun piercing mods don't add much penetration distance anyway.

 

I usually use Drill Ammo or Disruptor Ammo on the Crusader.

 

EDIT:  Also, on most weapons, you can shoot and then quickly use a power before Tactical Cloak breaks (it takes like a half second to break, I think).  It works great with the Claymore.  I think if you're using something with a re-fire delay like the Wraith, you might not be able to do it.

[justinman114]

The cooldown doesn't prevent the Snap Freeze?

Nope, no bonus power. You can always get a shot off and then a power with cloak on any kit. TGI shoot then overload quick for FE, same deal. You have a few frames to work with.

[The NightMan Cometh]

I am sober now...Off Host Tac Cloak bug? I have never heard of this. I know Snap Freeze is bugged..which is why I only take it up to rank 4.....I LOVE the Crusader on the AIU ..I play her both on/off host.....on xbox like you do OP, I have never noticed any difference with the shotgun evo on Tac Cloak...If anything it is amazing..It makes lesser shotguns god-like...Try the Disciple on her..so much fun

[Terminator Force]

I have no idea what is going on here.

 

Someone paid attention to what I said?... oh, they're drunk too... ggs.

 

 

Two problems :

1.If you break cloak with snapfreeze. (Sometimes?) No *1.25 multiplicative damage boost at all. You still get the +0.1 to the headshot multiplier if you spec snapfreeze for debuff (still multiplicative when not heatshoting).

2.If you break cloak with the shotgun some of the pellets will not get the *1.25 bonus. (probably will not affect crusader since there is only 1 projectile)

http://forum.bioware...-buggy-offhost/

There were not extensive tests (just a few shots on europe host + south asia client )so I have no idea how bad this can be.

 

Glad my Romanian buddy is stilll alive// ... ggs

 

PS - we should play together no=w that I have a PC manifest ... just need to firgure out how to chat Romanian on PC first....

 

PPS - sum such pula is what google says is Romanian (ie. I can't write Romanian, but I can sure speak it)

 

PPPs =- Addd me.

[Dalakaar]

I am sober now...

I call bµllshit.

[Terminator Force]

^ Ditto// /// No one is sober amd [posting on BSN.

[Catastrophy]

Nope, no bonus power. You can always get a shot off and then a power with cloak on any kit. TGI shoot then overload quick for FE, same deal. You have a few frames to work with.

Very few - it's not really a convenient window of opportunity.

[Teh_Ocelot]

That's not the only (NSFW) AIU gif out there on the interwebz Jeremiah..

 

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[Jeremiah12LGeek]

That's not the only AIU gif out there on the interwebz Jeremiah..

 

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Technically, I didn't say it was the only AIU gif on the internet, I said that it was the only AIU gif on the internet that I could find.

 

 

 

 

I have an impressive ability to not find stuff.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I am 99.997% certain that you can.

 

I had assumed that because they were both barrel mods, they would be shaded out when trying to equip both at the same time. I had never noticed that the Omniblade is actually mounted under the barrel, rather than directly on it.

 

I'm not sure if the weight glitch still works with 2 weight-adding mods though.

 

My understanding is that equipping multiple weight mods will always apply the correct penalties, even if they are on different guns. I have confirmed that it does happen with my Drell Assassin equipping the HVB mod on the Sniper Rifle - I used to use the ULM mod on the Acolyte secondary, but I took it off because it actually made getting the off host tactical cloak bug (the normal one, not the AIU one) much worse when using Recon Mine.

[larsdt]

That's not the only AIU gif out there on the interwebz Jeremiah..

 

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Don't know why this Gif is so funny and I'm not sure I want to know - I might have to visit a shrink   . Have a like for a spoiler instaLOL

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Don't know why this Gif is so funny and I'm not sure I want to know

 

Back in the exciting days of yore, before support had ended, there was a bit of a naughty campaign to try and convince the devs to nerf the AIU.

 

On the old BSN, you could use gifs for avatars (you still can, but they only work for other people who have the same extension installed on their browser.) A couple of people made that gif, and then used it as their avatar for a while. As you can imagine, this was a tad controversial, but the mods didn't have the ability to forcibly change the avatars (I'm sure some people had administrative permissions that would have allowed them to, but I don't think the mods in general did.)

 

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