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Medhia_Nox

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@vbibbi:  That would be great.  

 

But seriously... he's not going to get what he wants. 

 

They (Bioware) are not going to destroy everything they've created with one storyline.  

 

Solas is going to fail at this... like he's failed at everything - but this time, it's because it would destroy a franchise to give him what he desires. 


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Bio will troll us and postpone Solas until DA5. Just think of the fan tears!

 

Which would be the proper choice. Just resolving this whole veil issue in one game is going to feel hollow given the buildup.


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Which would be the proper choice. Just resolving this whole veil issue in one game is going to feel hollow given the buildup.

I agree. And it would make more sense with the flow of the games. Epic story in the first, connecting more intimate story in the second, epic again in three, more down to earth (if a Tevinter-Qunari war can be called that. But at least it's not The End of The World) in four, then the finale with The End of The World: This Time We Mean It! in the fifth game.

 

I've heard that Patrick Weekes said on Twitter that Solas' story would be resolved in the next game, though. I wonder if his words were taken out of context, or if he's just saying that now to appease fans but the plot for DA4 hasn't been decided yet. No way of knowing for a few years, I'd imagine...



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@vbibbi:  If Solas ends the world in DA:5... I hope he gives us three options for rebirth.  Red, Green and Blue.  



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@vbibbi:  If Solas ends the world in DA:5... I hope he gives us three options for rebirth.  Red, Green and Blue.  

No, Red, Green, or Bald!



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step 1: tear down the Veil
step 2: something awesome happens
step 3: profit!

You win the thread.

#32
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You win the thread.

I'd prefer a cookie...

*blast* I knew I revealed myself to be a Qunari...

 

Thankfully my husband is away... :D


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No, Red, Green, or Bald!

 

Red = Close the Fade forever and kill all mages.

Blue = Fuse with the Fade and the PC becomes the new Maker/Avatar

Green = The Fade and Thedas fuse together and everybody becomes a mage and spirits flock around with everyone.

Refuse = Game cuts to a screen that says "haha, we got you again  :P"

 

Beware, DA fans. Beware. If it could happen to ME 3...


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I think he's going to instigate some incident in Tevinter that draws more attention to the Qunari/Tevinter fighting.... and use that as an opportunity to take any elvhen artifacts that he wants or wipe out the Qunari... other than that, aside from tearing down the Veil, no idea.


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Red = Close the Fade forever and kill all mages.

Blue = Fuse with the Fade and the PC becomes the new Maker/Avatar

Green = The Fade and Thedas fuse together and everybody becomes a mage and spirits flock around with everyone.

Refuse = Game cuts to a screen that says "haha, we got you again  :P"

 

Beware, DA fans. Beware. If it could happen to ME 3...

This could be the next meme while we wait for MEA and DA4 to come out... :lol:

 

Red: We restore the Veil moments after Solas has torn it down. But in those minutes while it was down, all Tranquil and dwarves were permanently lobotomized. But all humans, elves and Qunari were saved from certain death.

Blue: Similar to yours, PC joins the Enuvaris as a magician-god-king but is super snowflake special enough to control the ancient elves and restore order, at the cost of their humanity and their hair.

Green: Spirits fuse with mortals, returning elves to their proto-state of being a mix of mortal and immortal. Dwarves regain their link to the Titans. Qunari become the Deep Roads lizard people. Humans find out Andraste just moved to the Deep Fade and join here there.

Refuse: Cut to Kieran waking up, Morrigan sitting nearby in the room. "Mother, I had the strangest dream. There was a bald elf who thought he was going to destroy the world!" "That's enough reading your grandmother's diary before bed, young man! It gives you the oddest nightmares!"


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It is exactly what he said it is. No need to overcomplicate things.

Solas explained what his plan was before and what it is now. The only big change is that since Corypheus survived the explosion, the former ended up needing the Inquisition's help to kill him and retrieve the orb.

As for the elves... Solas has absolutely nothing to do with that. The fools are seeking him out on their own initiative and no invitation was ever made.
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As for the elves... Solas has absolutely nothing to do with that. The fools are seeking him out on their own initiative and no invitation was ever made.

 

The epilogue panels clearly state they have become "The Dread Wolf's forces". 

 

I think... the Dread Wolf's canon fodder... and that the elven extinction is all but assured. 


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My guess is that he needs the Mark to create reverse Rifts of some sort.

 

The Rifts opened by Corypheus dragged spirits into the real world. I think Solas will create his own version, that drags the real world closer to the Fade until they ''merge", thus effectively collapsing the Veil. This displacement is what would kill loads of people as the fundamental fabric of current Thedas is brutally altered.



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Oh and he'll break a romanced Inquisitor or former Inquisitor Lavellan's heart again...



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If Solas jut slept with Lavellan he would not be crazy. Poor elf slept for a thousand years. Cannot be good to have all that tension built up.


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My guess is that he needs the Mark to create reverse Rifts of some sort.

 

The Rifts opened by Corypheus dragged spirits into the real world. I think Solas will create his own version, that drags the real world closer to the Fade until they ''merge", thus effectively collapsing the Veil. This displacement is what would kill loads of people as the fundamental fabric of current Thedas is brutally altered.

 

It's clear that the Mark can remove (or repair) the veil. It's probably what Solas used to create it, and probably what he'll use to unmake it. I think a rift is not really a "thing" that's supposed to happen. Punching a hole in the Veil is an unexpected side effect (presumably like how death and suffering weaken it). 



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The epilogue panels clearly state they have become "The Dread Wolf's forces".

I think... the Dread Wolf's canon fodder... and that the elven extinction is all but assured.


It... really doesn't.

It just says they want "to know what the ancient elven rebel had planned".
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I agree. And it would make more sense with the flow of the games. Epic story in the first, connecting more intimate story in the second, epic again in three, more down to earth (if a Tevinter-Qunari war can be called that. But at least it's not The End of The World) in four, then the finale with The End of The World: This Time We Mean It! in the fifth game.

 

I've heard that Patrick Weekes said on Twitter that Solas' story would be resolved in the next game, though. I wonder if his words were taken out of context, or if he's just saying that now to appease fans but the plot for DA4 hasn't been decided yet. No way of knowing for a few years, I'd imagine...

 

I'm going to preditct "Solas dies in the event and in DA5 we have to face the released Evanuris" if that's true.


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Curious whether the Blight and the Evanuris are related... The Blight was created when the Veil was pierced the first time. If the elven gods are locked up behind the Veil, they would have reacted to such a breach, wouldn't they? If I remember correctly Solas even commented something on Cories immortality. There is also all this talk about the 'beautiful music' in regards to the Blight and Red Lirium...

 

Mind you, I am also very curious what human life looked like before the creation of the Veil... or are humans also the result of its creation and are they simply even more evolved elves? ;)



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Certainly nothing good for anyone,ancient elves included.
Can't he simply remain in the fade to play with spirits like he did for all of these millenia?
My first impression on the Dread wolf on DAO back in 2009:
 was the idea of a powerful being who tricked for whatever reason(rule in a world full of ignorance and without the other gods) the others "gods" and decided to live by seeing with satisfaction the actions of his misdeeds that proved him to be a more competent god than the others.
 Fen Harel in DAO was complete,accepted by both the Evanuris and the forgotten ones
(now i know it is only because he was with anyone side but his own)
but in DAO i really thought that this creature was the reason as for why Thedas was shaped (which is true) bu he did that on purpose while at the same time whispering into the hears of the human magister to enter the black city in order to use the taint as a weapon to kill all the forgotten ones who were dormant in the forms of the old gods,by turning them into archdemons,and later by creating the Grey wardens to "save the world" from those creatures came out of a shakespearean tragedy novel of betrayal..
When an archdemon was dying because of a GW sacrifice, I could have imagined that he was laughing somewhere in the fade because another god was removed from the world,and he was waiting until each of them would have died
(now i know that this was not his plan,he do not even care much for them,is all about Mythal for him) only then he would have presented himself as the only true god of the world,when the ignorants people who forogt all the ancient mysteries and power thanks to his misdeeds would have been a no match for him.
On the paper he was the most fascinating piece of lore of the franchise.
 
What i got in DAI,was instead a frustrated bad elf,polite but also insane who didn't really knew what he wanted and was dumb enought to grant to a magister his powers wihtout informing himself prior of such magister ability.


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If Solas jut slept with Lavellan he would not be crazy. Poor elf slept for a thousand years. Cannot be good to have all that tension built up.

Narrator: And Thedas was destroyed...by blue balls.


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The epilogue panels clearly state they have become "The Dread Wolf's forces". 

 

I think... the Dread Wolf's canon fodder... and that the elven extinction is all but assured. 

That sounds about right. He even states that he has lied and used people before. 



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Mass depopulation sounds familar...i can see Bioware now going into conspiracy theory tropes



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He still needs a power source, though.    That is where his plan had to change.    The orb was necessary and it took millennia to recharge, having probably expended its energy in throwing up the Veil in the first place.    He tells you what his plan was prior to DAI, he tells you what he had planned to do if the orb hadn't cracked but it is clear that 2 years later he still has done nothing other than recover control of the eluvians, so he can get around much quicker than you can.    It can't be a simple matter of just entering the Fade because if he was in your party at Adamant, he has already done that and Morrigan suspected it might be possible to use an eluvian to do the same.   In fact her mirror does just that when you find Flemeth.    So the anchor was necessary to keep him in one place in the Fade while he used the orb to tear down the Veil. Now he has neither.     So he must have something else in mind; that is the part of the plan he didn't tell you.



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He still needs a power source, though.    That is where his plan had to change.    The orb was necessary and it took millennia to recharge, having probably expended its energy in throwing up the Veil in the first place.    He tells you what his plan was prior to DAI, he tells you what he had planned to do if the orb hadn't cracked but it is clear that 2 years later he still has done nothing other than recover control of the eluvians, so he can get around much quicker than you can.    It can't be a simple matter of just entering the Fade because if he was in your party at Adamant, he has already done that and Morrigan suspected it might be possible to use an eluvian to do the same.   In fact her mirror does just that when you find Flemeth.    So the anchor was necessary to keep him in one place in the Fade while he used the orb to tear down the Veil. Now he has neither.     So he must have something else in mind; that is the part of the plan he didn't tell you.

Does Dorian say something about orbs in Tevinter?