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[Zazzerka]

I was surprised to find a full sex mod for origins.

 

Oh my sweet summer child.

[AlanC9]

Because of how frequent they were and how incredibly simple and linear they were. Plus they got irritating really quickly.

i get not liking actually doing them. I don't get how their mere presence is a problem. You don't need the Power. Unless you can't stop yourself whoring Influence points?

[AlanC9]

Oh my sweet summer child.

I almost linked that Skyrim sexmod site, but I don't really want to inflict that on anyone else.

[Mr.House]

It's not about embracing it as much as it is using an engine so old its not uneconomical to do it. It's not financially feasible to allow modding on any 'engine' that has a lot of third party licensed software. You have to have the rights to all of it.

Frostbite is all in house, the reason why mod support is gone is because Frostbite was made with the intent to stop hacking and modding, not because of third party stuff.

 

There is no financial issues, this is all because EA hates modding and used a engine that purposely is extremely hard to mod.

[AlanC9]

I think the middleware issue was maybe an ME thing.

However, note that in-house for Bio and in-house for EA are two different concepts, depending on how EA handles this stuff internally. I've worked for companies that had to purchase certain business services from other business units of the same corporation. While it was just money moving from one pocket of the corporation to another pocket, for the particular project it would show as a cost, exactly as if we had bought the same stuff from an outside vendor. (It didn't help that the internal stuff cost more and wasn't as good as an outside vendor could have provided; that's one of the costs of integration.)

[javeart]

It is why I like the structure of ME2, the main quest is interrupted waiting for signals, Intel and attacks. Allows the side quests to feel less out of place. FO4 isn't alone in this flaw, it is endemic in most cRPGs.

 

Me too. I think DA2 does this well too, though in a different way... But, yes, most games definitely need to integrate better side-quests (in terms of narrative)

[Sylvius the Mad]

Funny thing about "Imagination" is that it's a skill - and most people just plain suck at it.

That's so sad.

It's something we should have all honed as children. No one should suck at it.

[Sylvius the Mad]

We shouldn't be encouraging developers to be releasing games that are poorly designed just so we can buy and fix it for them.

Since it appears that they will release games that need fixing regardless of whether we can fix them ourselves, I think we should keep asking for mod support.

[FKA_Servo]

I almost linked that Skyrim sexmod site, but I don't really want to inflict that on anyone else.

 

A few years ago, Kotaku wrote a Skyrim modding primer. One of the things they suggested was "DO sign up for [site]" and "DON'T go to the adult section of [site]" so what I did next should be obvious to everyone. And that's the story of how I lost my innocence at the tender age of 28.

[ld1449]

Frostbite is all in house, the reason why mod support is gone is because Frostbite was made with the intent to stop hacking and modding, not because of third party stuff.

 

There is no financial issues, this is all because EA hates modding and used a engine that purposely is extremely hard to mod.

 

And still for all their efforts and pushing to try and stop hacking and pirating, DAI was hacked within a week and ME3's narrative for many players was still largely saved by mods like MEHEM and the elimination of the stupid dream sequences.

 

Frankly, alot of people I know pirate games to try them out. If they like em, they buy em when they have the money out of respect and consideration. If they don't like, they don't buy. Which I personally find completely justified given that games are something you can't return for your purchase price if you're unsatisfied with the product.

 

So here's a thought. Perhaps EA should try to actually make a good game, rather than try every gimmick under the sun like eliminating *modding* from PC games. Hell, I *bought* DA:O on Xbox way back when and then bought it *again* on steam (because screw Origin) a couple of months ago because it had modding. To the point that it breathed whole new life into the game.

 

I don't remember Witcher (any of them) needing day one DLC or, an unmoddable engine or overworrying about pirates and they still sold well and were critically acclaimed by both critics *and* fans.

Hell, Fallout 4 sold like hot cakes and Bethesda didn't care about hackers and such and I have no doubt its because of the extremely customizable setup. Hell, people KNOW Bethesda's games are gonna be buggy as hell and that the story, at best, will most likely just be Okay and they *still* buy em because they know they can eventually fix virtually *everything* in the game that irked them in the vanilla game.

[Iakus]

I almost linked that Skyrim sexmod site, but I don't really want to inflict that on anyone else.

Apropos of nothing, but the Interesting NPCs mod actually saved Skyrim for me.

 

No it's not a sex mod 

[FKA_Servo]

No it's not a sex mod 

 

Yet.

[Zekka]

Oh my sweet summer child.

Sex mods are always popular among these rpg's with mods. I was surprised when I browsed the top files on dragon age nexus and there was a full nudity mod that added sex animations for the in game sex scenes. I'll see if I can replay dragon age origins for it.

Since it appears that they will release games that need fixing regardless of whether we can fix them ourselves, I think we should keep asking for mod support.

I don't know, fallout 4 is getting some backlash from players and reviews evident by being Bethesda's lowest rated game.
Maybe Bethesda will try next time.

i get not liking actually doing them. I don't get how their mere presence is a problem. You don't need the Power. Unless you can't stop yourself whoring Influence points?

Truthfully, I would like if they were removed in total. I've played enough recent games with unlimited regenerating fetch quests and their appearance grinds my gears because usually the other quests in said games aren't all that good. Plus I'm a completions, that giant list of quests I haven't done irritates me by just being there. If there was a way that I could delete them or just make them fail then I wouldn't mind as much or if they resolved themselves after a while by NPC intervention then that would be cool.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Apropos of nothing, but the Interesting NPCs mod actually saved Skyrim for me.

No it's not a sex mod

What really held my interest in Skyrim was Blender and Nifskope. Modifying armour designs was a ton of fun. I still do it, even though I've stopped playing the game.

[Ariella]

I don't remember Witcher (any of them) needing day one DLC or, an unmoddable engine or overworrying about pirates and they still sold well and were critically acclaimed by both critics *and* fans.

This is when I fell over and laughed.

The first Witcher was build with AURORA, a licensed Bioware engine. Witcher 2 was a hot mess PC wise. There was no tutorial, the combat scaling sucked. Lip flaps weren't localized for language a bunch of other things. All these got fix in a big patch that came out alongside the console edition, which had everything.

[Mr.House]

I don't remember Witcher (any of them) needing day one DLC or, an unmoddable engine or overworrying about pirates and they still sold well and were critically acclaimed by both critics *and* fans.

 

TW2 was horrible on its PC launch.

[Zekka]

This is when I fell over and laughed.

The first Witcher was build with AURORA, a licensed Bioware engine. Witcher 2 was a hot mess PC wise. There was no tutorial, the combat scaling sucked. Lip flaps weren't localized for language a bunch of other things. All these got fix in a big patch that came out alongside the console edition, which had everything.

Very funny how gamers easily forget poor practices by developers when they were smaller and after they give them free stuff.

[Ariella]

Oh and not to have the same side quest over and over.

I have to save Tenpines Bluff from the Corvega assembly plant raiders. Again.

And more quests like Give Sheffield a NukaCola.

Ignore the stains, sarcasm is really hard to get out of the carpet.

[Iakus]

TW2 was horrible on its PC launch.

Witcher 1 was essentially unplayable at launch.

[FKA_Servo]

Witcher 1 was essentially unplayable at launch.

 

I have an opinion regarding its current playability as well.

[In Exile]

Frostbite is all in house, the reason why mod support is gone is because Frostbite was made with the intent to stop hacking and modding, not because of third party stuff.

There is no financial issues, this is all because EA hates modding and used a engine that purposely is extremely hard to mod.

That's not necessarily true. Frostbite could require critical middle ware that EA can cheaply license for its devs but that would be very expensive to proliferate generally to consumers. An engine isn't a single thing - it's just an amorphous blob of interlaced software.

[In Exile]

That's so sad.

It's something we should have all honed as children. No one should suck at it.

But it's also not quite so simple. I find what many people see as the imaginative position to be anti-imagination. Which is to say that I find the idea of asking me to imagine something so narrow and constrained by so many outside factors to be a sufficient intrusion into my ability to "imagine" that all joy I could get from doing so is gone.

[Quarian Master Race]

I was surprised to find a full sex mod for origins.

 

I almost linked that Skyrim sexmod site, but I don't really want to inflict that on anyone else.

my position of indifference to mods is suddenly one of absolute support for EA's position....

 

you bring it on yourselves, gamer community.

[pdusen]

I don't know, fallout 4 is getting some backlash from players and reviews evident by being Bethesda's lowest rated game.
Maybe Bethesda will try next time.

 

Why do you keep bringing this up as if good games don't get terrible ratings for stupid reasons all the time?

 

Seriously, online ratings mean absolutely nothing to me anymore.

[AresKeith]

Why do you keep bringing this up as if good games don't get terrible ratings for stupid reasons all the time?

 

Seriously, online ratings mean absolutely nothing to me anymore.

 

They stopped having any meaning when people started to take Metacritic serious lol