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What are your thoughts on the Grey wardens?


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#126
kimgoold

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My Hero of Ferelden never wanted to be a Grey Warden. They have done despicable things in the past in the name of the greater good. Their tactics are foolishly rigid. They lack proper oversight. Defeat the Darkspawn at any cost is a stupid strategy. They need to find better ways to defeat the taint, and they need to be much less secretive.

 

Grey Wardens are not good for much other than surviving the taint and slaying an archdemon.

 

My Hero did not want to be a Warden, but since he is one he figured he may as well improve it. He established the Silver Order to work with and along side the Grey Wardens. They exist to protect the Grey Wardens of Ferelden from themselves and others. They offer a third party perspective. A balancing force to identify and stop any corruption in their ranks. At the same time they respect the individuals who sacrifice for the Grey Warden service. Had the Silver Order been present in more places than just Amaranthine, then perhaps the blood magic atrocities would not have taken place in Orlais.

 

He also had Avernus conduct his research ethically, which shows he is for the advancement of knowledge and magic, but also for traditional moral standards.

 

He does not use the Joining on anyone unless it is necessary. He spared Velanna and Sigrun the Joining, but let them help the Wardens anyway. And now he searches for the cure.

 

He built up Vigil's Keep to its maximum defense, but chose to save Amaranthine when faced with the decision. He believes that Grey Wardens exist to protect the people, not their own self-interests.

 

He's basically trying to turn a wretched organization into a noble one from the inside out.

 

I agree with his sentiments.

My HoF did much the same, except she allowed Velana and Sigrun the joining, as well as Oahren and Nathaniel. She also took in Justice to protect people by having it in Warden custody. I think the whole Anders/Vengeance thing occurred after she left to cure the calling! she would never have allowed Anders to do that.


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#127
Illegitimus

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They are empty vessels,standing on a box and screaming that it isn't so, does not make it so. They are empty in the sense they have no SOULS,gaining sentience like the Disciples were granted does not mean you gain a soul.   

 

Since they don't have any way to detect a soul or it's absence that is merely speculation.  



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MrObnoxiousUK

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Since they don't have any way to detect a soul or it's absence that is merely speculation.  

This codex entry it begs to differ.

When the first Blight began, many brave men and women threw themselves at Dumat, the first archdemon, trying to strike him down. But no matter the numbers, no matter their strength, he would always return. This was proof, some said, of his divine power.
 
But the Grey Wardens soon learned otherwise. Their tainted blood bound them to the archdemon, and they could hear it, feel it, as it died and was born anew, its spirit drawn to possess the nearest tainted creature. The darkspawn were mindless, soulless, empty shells of flesh that could be bent and remade in the dragon's image. But a man... a man's soul was not so malleable. When a Warden's hand struck a fatal blow against Dumat, the Old God's spirit was drawn not to a darkspawn but to the man who had slain him. In that moment, the souls of both the Warden and the archdemon were utterly destroyed. And the dragon rose no more. The Blight was over.

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