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How effective is your Inquisitor after Trespasser?


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My Inquisitors are still being woken up at night from the pain from the cut nerves, but both are looking forward to the armchair time. I suppose they might adopt basic prosethics - arm extension things - even the dual-welding rogue, but I'll leave that up to the people outside the game world who decide these things.

 

About putting prosetics (?) on amputated limbs:

Most people don't know this, but the stump end of an amputated limb is quite sensitive and will always be.  If you take any kind of impact directly on the end, the pain can send you reeling. (I know this because I lost a barely noticeable part of my body (not that part) Also don't ask me to send you pictures, I know there are people into that kind of thing but I want no part of it). At the same time, you have to not codle that stump -- I have seen pictures where the nerve ends erupt thru the skin of  a stump because a person failed to harden the end (rub it with sandpaper and the like).  If you want to put a shield or a cross-bow on an arm you have to develop a way to spread and absorb the impact. (Having said that, I did talk to a guy who used his amputated thumb to great effect in a fight, but it was by accident -- he didn't mean to poke the other guy in the eye.)


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Demona Adaar never had any issue with blood magic (and won't until Bioware hijacks her in a future game). It's a means to an end. She'll have a new arm in no time.



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My Mage is cool, especially since he's a rift mage. Most of his moves don't even require a staff.



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My Lavellan is an archer. I think she took th new development better than I did. She got pretty good at throwing knives since becoming an assassin though, so she's not defenseless.

 

I hope she gets a magical prosthesis or something though. She had a wonderful little collection of bows and the idea of never firing one again is too depressing.



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Honestly, I dunno if I'm gonna headcanon Nasir as still having the mark but, as in my headcanon it had been spreading all over his body and causing him agonizing pain (which in the base game every time he/she used it the Inq. experienced a feeling like 'my nerves are on fire'), and still suffering from said pain and everything...

 

or if I'm going to have him def. be armless as a result of Solas taking it back, and eventually he gets a metal prosthetic arm to replace it. So he'd be the Fullmetal Dwarf. Also give him a Lee Everett moment at some point.

 

Either way I want Nasir to still be handicapped.

 

....maybe I could have Nasir have residual energy left inside of him from the Anchor that allows him to tap into the powers he gained from it, sort of. At the very least, Aegis of the Rift.

 

I dunno it involves a lot of my thoughts on the Anchor as we understand it so meh...

 

Either way Nasir's still a badass.

 

The Inquisitor's gonna be the new Black Knight.

 

People can do whatever they want with their head-canons -- that's the whole point, right? -- but I sort of want to discourage you, and others, from coming up with head-canons that aren't likely to be carried through to a further DA game. Think of how many people were pissed at what was done with the Warden "disappearing" and so forth. No matter what they come up with for the Inquisitor; whether they are in the next game, or not; whether they have some sort of prosthetic, or not; whether they are mentioned by Dorian (if he is in the next game), or not, what they are said to be doing; there are bound to be players disappointed with whatever scenario Bioware comes up with. Our Inquisitor is no longer ours, just as both the Warden and Hawke are no longer ours, and we have no control over their fate.


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About putting prosetics (?) on amputated limbs:
Most people don't know this, but the stump end of an amputated limb is quite sensitive and will always be.  If you take any kind of impact directly on the end, the pain can send you reeling. (I know this because I lost a barely noticeable part of my body (not that part) Also don't ask me to send you pictures, I know there are people into that kind of thing but I want no part of it). At the same time, you have to not codle that stump -- I have seen pictures where the nerve ends erupt thru the skin of  a stump because a person failed to harden the end (rub it with sandpaper and the like).  If you want to put a shield or a cross-bow on an arm you have to develop a way to spread and absorb the impact.


I was discussing this just the other day. Because of these issues I think my guy would only wear one at times where having the extra limb would be helpful, such as getting dressed. I tried to tie my shoes with one hand the other day and it was quite frustrating. I'd think having an extra limb to hold down laces, even one without movable fingers, would be preferable to nothing at all. But he would likely just forgo it most of the time.

I honestly think that too many players are looking at a prosthesis as an easy fix for the problem, especially those that want the Inquisitor to return, when that is not the case. Even now with considerably more advanced prosthesis technology than will surely be available (barring the cop-out of magic) in the game, they (usually) have to be custom made, can be painful to use, and so forth. Then there are issues regarding phantom limbs, or phantom pain, in addition to the physiological issues of losing a limb in the first place.

 

But I suppose it also depends on how the limb was removed. Surely there is a difference between a limb that was blown off in an explosion from an IED and one that was surgically removed, or even one that was surgically removed in the controlled environment of a hospital versus battlefield triage. With that in mind, I think there is currently room for head-canon to have a role in the player's RP and how they deal with it. As I mentioned in this thread, it's not explicitly shown how the lower arm is removed; whether it disintegrated after Solas removed the Anchor, or was dead and black and had to be removed after the Inquisitor returned to the Winter Palace.



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My Mage Female Trevelyan is fine. She's off with Cullen right now, so yeah just fine..

My Male Mage Trevelyan hates himself for losing the mark (the mark made him feel better then the lowly circle Mage he once was). He is currently sitting with Cass as she rebuilds the Seekers. His love is Cassandra. But overall, he's physically capable of killing people with his fake arm if he so wishes. His fake arm is capable of using magic.

My Male Rogue Lavellen is taking the loss of his arm hard. He can no longer shot arrows at enemies which was a passion of his for almost all of his life, as he was a hunter. His romance Is Dorian. He's not very effective any more, although his fake arm helps, he will never be able to shoot arrows at people with the same brilliancy as he was did.

My Female Mage Lavellen is also still compent. Just depressed and sad feeling, after being dumped for the last time by Solas.

My Male Warrior Trevelyan (another Cass romance) hates Solas with a passion, for giving him a gift that blows up in his face. He isn't compent any longer, but hates feeling helpless. Hes off with Cass, most likely getting married to her.

My Male Mage Lavellen (Yep, another Cass romance) isn't taking anything well. He feels stupid for letting Solas get into his head and hates himself for it. He hates Solas for being steps ahead of himself, and hates himself for not being more prepared for Orlais and Ferelden trying to disband the Inquisiton. He is overall fine, but is most likely depressed becuase of Solas. He's compent in battle still, and he knows this as well. He is an aethestic, believing in no god. So he's mentally okay (just hates being used as a puppet by Solas)

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My Knight Enchanter is not that affected, being that she can still use her spirit blade with or without her arm. My archer and 2 handed warrior are probably finding good prosthetics. 

They are currently looking for the same person who made this for this guy tcg-series5-083-full.jpg


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#34
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I figure since Champion training is similar to Chevalier training, and Chevalier training involves all sorts of combat training to the point where Chevaliers can fight with a towel, Lord Chancer taught my Inquisitor how to fight with one hand.



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My Knight Enchanter is not that affected, being that she can still use her spirit blade with or without her arm. My archer and 2 handed warrior are probably finding good prosthetics. 

They are currently looking for the same person who made this for this guy 

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Forgot to mention my female Lavellan who romanced Solas.    She is the one Inquisitor who isn't very effective after Trespasser.   This has nothing to do with the loss of the mark or her arm but everything to do with the fact of finding out the truth about Solas.    She is still in a state of denial that he really means to destroy her world (and her along with it).   It doesn't help that he keeps appearing in her dreams.   Luckily she put the Inquisition at the disposal of Divine Cassandra, before dropping into deep depression.   Varric has taken her back with him to the Freemarches and ensured she got back to her clan; everyone is hopeful that a spell back with them might pull her out of it.   Dorian is doing his bit as well; calling her up on a regular basis to cheer her up with his wit and charm.    Meanwhile everyone else is covering for her and the official word is that the Inquisitor is in semi-retirement.



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^ Well... that's depressing. Poor thing. If that were somehow canon and the characters were able to react accordingly, and if Dorian and the Inquisitor are both in the next game, given how loyal Dorian is, I don't imagine he would look too kindly on Solas.



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Dorian doesn't look too kindly on Solas.    When she yelled "we have to save Solas", Dorian disapproved.    If it wasn't enough that we had just discovered that he gave the orb to Corypheus (if you believe the qunari lady which everyone apparently does) and that he has been working for Fen'Harel ever since joining us (because we may not yet have figured that one out), he knows just how badly he hurt his best friend.   I'm sure he realises she still loves him at that point but he just knows it is not going to end well.    Another occasion when Dorian hates to be proved right.


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As long as they can think and can commnicate in some way, my Inquisitors are fine.

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I was discussing this just the other day. Because of these issues I think my guy would only wear one at times where having the extra limb would be helpful, such as getting dressed. I tried to tie my shoes with one hand the other day and it was quite frustrating. I'd think having an extra limb to hold down laces, even one without movable fingers, would be preferable to nothing at all. But he would likely just forgo it most of the time.

I honestly think that too many players are looking at a prosthesis as an easy fix for the problem, especially those that want the Inquisitor to return, when that is not the case. Even now with considerably more advanced prosthesis technology than will surely be available (barring the cop-out of magic) in the game, they (usually) have to be custom made, can be painful to use, and so forth. Then there are issues regarding phantom limbs, or phantom pain, in addition to the physiological issues of losing a limb in the first place.

 

 

I was thinking of a smooth wooden stump strapped on the upper arm. This is just to make it a bit easier to hold things down, like say, papers on the desk, holding down part of  a garment. Eating, well, someone will have to cut up the food into smaller portions or prepared in such manner. I think for footwear, it'll mostly be straps / buckles, not laces (I noticed the boots in the game, I didn't see much of laces). A trusted aide to help with dressing, perhaps even washing the back, etc, if so inclined. But washing hard to reach places can be done if someone makes a long handle brush. The wooden stump can also be used as a means of defense and even offense. Riding? One side of the reins can be wound loosely on the stump but main control will be with the right hand. The saddle will have to be redesigned. If it doesn't have a pommel, it needs one.

 

All this since I don't think the inquisitor is one to just sit back just because of the lost of a limb and will adapt and be just as active as before.



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I think for footwear, it'll mostly be straps / buckles, not laces (I noticed the boots in the game, I didn't see much of laces).


Hah the boots that are with the Skyhold attire have a long set of laces, and then there will also be smallclothes to lace closed, most likely. There are some other armor bits here and there with ties, but those can be changed. I was thinking that he'd have to get another pair of boots afterward...

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I used to be an adventurer like you,until the  dread wolf got my arm.
It's a good  Dalish tale, to tell to the hunters and the children around the campfire.

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Riding shouldn't be any trouble at all, even without a high pommel.   A well trained horse can just respond to the legs; it doesn't even need a bridle.   I should know, I tried it once for a bet, and won.     Really experienced trainers can get the horse to do show jumping without a bridle and western riding is a doddle, although I'll admit the saddle is a bit of a help there.    So just riding across country, like we've been doing in game, should be no problem at all.



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^ Well you do see people steering horses single-handed all the time in westerns. I'd think that getting on would be the most annoying to re-learn and deal with.



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They are currently looking for the same person who made this for this guy tcg-series5-083-full.jpg


I named my Qunari Inquisitor Grommash when DAI released in anticipation for the WoD release. In hindsight, perhaps I should've named him Kargath instead :lol:
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Dwarven sword and board warrior, and while his defense is stunted as you say I like to think that you can still strap a shield on that stump and it'll be better than nothing. For when he can't let his Gestapo agents Inquisition lackeys to do all the legwork, anyway.



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Really hoping for Dagna to work miracles, even if my Lavellan is a mage, so she should be ok.

 

Maybe something like this (Source) spoiler for size

 

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Knight Enchanter. So the Spirit Blade arm is gone. 

Adventuring days are probably over, as she said. 

 

I mean, she's still a capable mage, but the bulk of her combat prowess is probably gone. 



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Thales Trevalyan is not taking it well. All the adjustments to daily life are a challenge he isn't always sure he can conquer. While traveling with Sera as a Red Jenny, he uses the crossbow prosthesis very sparingly. Sera has to repeatedly teach him how to use it and anyway, Thales would rather rely on his magic. The two of them move about Thedas at a steady pace, Thales making contacts--Fellow Red Jennies and those outside of the organization who he and Sera can personally vet and count on for aid in the fight against Solas. Yet even as he committed to saving the world again, Thales feels like a lesser man. The highlight of his day is using the messaging crystal to talk to Dorian. As Thales is Dorian's strength, so is Dorian his.  



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He'll be fine:

 

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