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[Synthetic Turian]

 

Best. Villain. Ever.

[KaiserShep]

Nah, Harbinger sucks. I'm glad it's dead.

[SardaukarElite]

The Harbinger love always confuses me. He nonsensically taunts you by proxy for all of 2, then becomes a cutscene turret in 3. He never actually does anything interesting.

 

Sure there was potential, a deep voiced intimidating space cuttlefish could make a great villain, but they never delivered. 

[Synthetic Turian]

The Harbinger love always confuses me. He nonsensically taunts you by proxy for all of 2, then becomes a cutscene turret in 3. He never actually does anything interesting.

 

Sure there was potential, a deep voiced intimidating space cuttlefish could make a great villain, but they never delivered. 

 

I don't know. There's just something about his arrogance and evil that I find, somewhat, captivating.

[SporkFu]

No. New shiny villains can taunt us all they like as long as they are not reapers.

[KaiserShep]

Harbinger was a gag in ME2 though. The taunting just totally ruined its presence.

[Synthetic Turian]

Harbinger was a gag in ME2 though. The taunting just totally ruined its presence.

 

I'm curious as to who you think is the better villain in the Mass Effect trilogy?

[themikefest]

Harbinger was excellent. My femshep enjoyed hearing him talk smack to her. Along comes ME3, and he's reduced to a cameo like the ME2 characters

[KaiserShep]

I'm curious as to who you think is the better villain in the Mass Effect trilogy?

I don't think that Mass Effect really did villains particularly well. There was one character that had a background that could have provided Shepard with enough story to be a villain, but was nothing more than a side mission baddie: Elanos Haliat. Of course, he was ultimately ruined by having a human model over what should have been a turian. The Shadow Broker would be my pick.

[SporkFu]

Harbinger was a gag in ME2 though. The taunting just totally ruined its presence.

It worked for ME2. Shep became an action hero, so he needed a counterpart who could deliver a good one-liner too.

[AresKeith]

I'll miss his voice

[SardaukarElite]

I don't think that Mass Effect really did villains particularly well. 

 

That. I found Vasir interesting but underdeveloped. I wouldn't say any of the ME villians were good. 

[SporkFu]

I thought Saren was alright, until the end when he became Saren-bot.

[Synthetic Turian]

I don't think that Mass Effect really did villains particularly well. There was one character that had a background that could have provided Shepard with enough story to be a villain, but was nothing more than a side mission baddie: Elanos Haliat. Of course, he was ultimately ruined by having a human model over what should have been a turian. The Shadow Broker would be my pick.

 

You mean this overly ambitious thug?

 

 

Lol!

 

The Shadow Broker was indeed formidable. More mysterious to me (leading up to his reveal) than villainous, but I understand your opinion.

 

I still to this day, see the Shadow Broker as nothing more than a highly informed business man. Versus a villain with goals to dominate the entire galaxy.

[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

WHY WOULD YOU MISS HARBINGER?!?!? DANGEROUS!! REAPER LEADER!! TOO BIG TO BURN!! GLAD HE'S GONE!! AMPOMPEEDA WILL HAVE BRAND NEW VILLAIN OR VILLAINS! GRRRAAAAAAAAAAGHH!!! JUST YOU WAIT! MIGHT EVEN BE VORCHA! WINK! WINK!

[KaiserShep]

Harbinger wasn't trying to dominate the whole galaxy. It already did that. It was just a pawn in the end, though.

[CYRAX470]

I loved Harbinger and was so excited to see what he was going to do in ME3. And then it happened...*sigh* oh well. I was so into all his taunts and the evil presence he carried. I hope whatever villains are in Andromeda can be as cool, and not be replaced by something totally stupid.

[Kierro Ren]

In my main playthrough, Harbinger (was his real name ever mentioned?) was killed. My second story, Harbinger has been dethroned, and now serves Shephard his tea... or wtfever Reaper Shephard drinks.

[Drone223]

Harbinger was more of a school yard bully than an actual villain its hard to take him seriously.  

[RoboticWater]

I always thought Harbinger was a massive waste of potential. Here we have a Reaper with a fairly decent catch phrase who just loves to work his way into people's heads. ME2 could have set him up as all bark and ME3 followed up with a surprising bite.

 

I think it would have been nice to hear his famous "assuming direct control," on the mars mission and have Shepard start looking around for that patented fiery Collector only to find a yellow-eyed Vega beating Liara half to death while screaming in pain but then again, I've always been a fan of Dead Space's over the top mind-frack style horror.  

[Synthetic Turian]

Yeah, it's unfortunate that he is basically nowhere to be found in ME3 until the end. I mean, sure, there's the indoctrination theory, but theoretically, couldn't any random reaper be capable of indoctrination? Even dead reapers are capable of it.

[Mr.House]

The Harbinger love always confuses me. He nonsensically taunts you by proxy for all of 2, then becomes a cutscene turret in 3. He never actually does anything interesting.

 

Sure there was potential, a deep voiced intimidating space cuttlefish could make a great villain, but they never delivered. 

Because it was clear that Bioware was building him up to face of the Reapers. Yes Harbinger was critised for his his role in ME2, but a proper writer improves if major plot points where not hot at firstand keeps going with what they where building up. Not dropping it all for something even worse that makes no goddamn sense and contradicts all build up, even in its own dam story (see Leviathan)

 

However with Mac being a giant pretentious hack, expecting anything was far fetched.

[CYRAX470]

Eh, while I will always be displeased with Harbinger being totally removed from the game. Atleast his personality wasn't ruined by all that Catalyst crap. Better he do and say nothing at all then spout that verbal diahrrea about preserving organics by killing them so they don't get destroyed by synthetics.

[Former_Fiend]

No, I spent all of ME3 missing Harbinger, it was such a non-entity in that game. I'm over it.

[angol fear]

 verbal diahrrea about preserving organics by killing them so they don't get destroyed by synthetics.

 

Maybe if you play Mass Effect 3, you'll see that it's not what it's all about.

 

 

Not dropping it all for something even worse that makes no goddamn sense and contradicts all build up, even in its own dam story (see Leviathan)

 

It makes sense for those who can understand what is a paradox. But I agree with what you are implicitly saying : not everyone can understand how the ending isn't a real contradiction.