The "slumber" doesn't necessarily have to be in a specific body. The essence of Fen'Harel could have "slumbered" through the ages in the fade until it found the right body at the right time for all we know. It's all speculation at this point.
He knows the important things like Ostagar from sleeping at the battlefield. He learned about Hawke from reading Varrics book he admitted to reading a book but never which one, I assume its the tale of the champion, and others.
But honestly he doesn't know much when it comes to day to day things. He asks Varric "Do the wardens allow Qunari into their ranks" and he comments on Cassandra's abilities and how interesting they are. He learned what he needed to and while with the Inquisition he learns more and more. Afterall he's surprised at meeting Abelas at mythals temple and while at the winter palace takes advantage of his "manservent" status to learn about the nobles of Orlais.
Plus I bet his agents have filled him in, he woke up a year before Inquisition so I assumed he learned what he needed to.
How did he learn so quickly.
Solas is immortal is he not? He won the prize....
"I know everything!..."
Just to clarify the Solas/Fen'Harel thing brought up the last few posts, I'm fairly sure when he says "I was Solas first. Fen'Harel came later." he means he took on the moniker of Fen'Harel at a later point in his life. Its like saying "I was Bruce Wayne first. Batman came later." He was still always Solas. He explains as much. Its a name he was apparently called by his enemies/the evanuris as an insult that he turned into a "badge of pride". There isn't an actual separate entity named Fen'Harel that merged with Solas. Its always been just him.
How did he learn so quickly.
Dear Maker, it's impossible to get everyone to pay attention. Some only bother reading the title, while others... just half the title it seems.
It's you who doesn't seem to be paying attention because several others have posited the (very valid) theory that Solas kept informed through the Fade while in Uthenera.
http://dragonage.wik...m/wiki/Uthenera
Keep in mind that Solas is like Flemeth, he's a mortal carrying the spirit of an ancient being. He wasn't always Fen'harel and he says as much "Fen'harel came later". So when Fen'Harel merged with Solas the way Mythal merged with Flemeth, he gained access to Solas's memories and experiences and learned as Solas learned from that point forward.
No, he's always been Solas, same body. The title was added later, not a different body. Mythal was killed, that's the only reason she "merged" with Flemeth.
He read the Dragon Age wiki.
I don't think there's any reason to think Solas lied about traveling to multiple ruins and such and sleeping there. After all, he was awake for a year. People move. Maybe he got a murky general history as he slept, and traveled around once he was awake to places his followers said were important to get a more accurate version? Travel times might not even matter. In Trespasser he says he took the eluvian network back under his control, but does he say he did this after the events of Inquisition?
So "thousand(s?) year slumber + field trips + dedicated agents" would be my guess.
He says "dark and dreaming sleep", not "dark and dreamless". I misheard it the first time around, because dreamless is what you expect someone to say.I thought he was in a "dreamless" slumber until he was awoken?
Something that did strike me when I was replaying the introduction at the weekend and that was his reaction to the red lyrium deposits at the Shrine. Varric is really surprised to see them there and half whispers to Cassandra about them because, of course, at this point he thinks he's been keeping knowledge of red lyrium to himself (clearly didn't include it in his book about Hawke), so you wouldn't think that Solas would know about it either, if he was just a simple apostate, or even through his watching from the Fade. However, he immediately suggests that may be the magic involved in the explosion corrupted the lyrium at the site.
This was interesting on two counts; first that he didn't initially query what Varric was talking about and then that he offered a plausible explanation for its existence but only if he was aware that red lyrium is corrupted lyrium. When I've been through that part before it didn't really register with me but after Trespasser and the information we discover in the Deep Roads about the connection of Mythal, Fen'Harel and the evanuris generally to its early history, it seems another instance of Solas knowing so much more about the origins of the Blight and red lyrium than he ever let on.
Something that did strike me when I was replaying the introduction at the weekend and that was his reaction to the red lyrium deposits at the Shrine. Varric is really surprised to see them there and half whispers to Cassandra about them because, of course, at this point he thinks he's been keeping knowledge of red lyrium to himself (clearly didn't include it in his book about Hawke), so you wouldn't think that Solas would know about it either, if he was just a simple apostate, or even through his watching from the Fade. However, he immediately suggests that may be the magic involved in the explosion corrupted the lyrium at the site.
This was interesting on two counts; first that he didn't initially query what Varric was talking about and then that he offered a plausible explanation for its existence but only if he was aware that red lyrium is corrupted lyrium. When I've been through that part before it didn't really register with me but after Trespasser and the information we discover in the Deep Roads about the connection of Mythal, Fen'Harel and the evanuris generally to its early history, it seems another instance of Solas knowing so much more about the origins of the Blight and red lyrium than he ever let on.
You have a point. I mean, its in the moment enough that Solas saying what he says works and doesn't seem suspicious. You can kind of tell that red lyrium is bad just from Varric's tone as he talks to Cass. And lyrium is supposed to be blue, not red, so its been changed obviously. Changed in a bad way = corrupted. So I think it was a reasonable enough comment that Solas couldn't be called on it. But now we do know its likely not his first time seeing the stuff. So the comment gets an extra layer.
Solas:
Another idea is that is he got a lot of information from Felassan. He says to the Inquisitor that his agent (that we know from Masked Empire is Felassan) had the task of recovering the control of the eluvians from Briala. That would have been his mission at the end but he was around for 20 years at least prior to the events in DAI. That would have given him plenty of time to find out the current situation in southern Thedas and pass the information on to Solas via the Fade. When he first met Briala she was running away from the Orlesian Court and trying to find the Dalish. Whilst Felassan may have genuinely thought she would be better off returning to Celene's side, it does strike me that in encouraging her to do so, he was acquiring himself a perfect agent inside the Orlesian Court. It is confirmed in Masked Empire that Briala certainly did pass on information to him, because he passed it on to the Dalish clan we encounter in the book.
Felassan is a dreamer so can enter the Fade at will. So sometime between encountering Imshael and reaching the control point for the eluvians, he contacted Solas and told him what was going on. He was ordered to take control himself or at least get the means to recover control later. However, Felassan decided to disobey orders and stopped Briala from telling him the password, so Fen'Harel killed him. According to Cole this was not for the crime of disloyalty but for seeing Briala and her elves as People.
I assume that Solas could tell from the Fade when his orb was nearing full power and this is why he probably woke Felassan from uthenera and sent him out on his fact finding mission. Even if Felassan didn't know exactly what Solas was planning when he awoke, he certainly knew he was going to do so because he hinted as much to Imshael to get him to back off and leave his party alone. Then when Solas did wake up, he probably went into Ferelden first, down south near Ostagar and as well as listening to the spirits there, he also visited Flemeth's old hut.
The rest of his information he probably did get from the Fade, since he mentions about a Qunari cook in one of his tales and I doubt he was ever in Par Vollen. We know from Feynriel that there seems no limit to the range of a dreamer when contacting other people's minds.
There's a plothole here - or Solas is simply lying (cause he lies about everything else).
You can't just travel the Fade and leave your body behind. Solas says he's slept in ancient crypts... ruins... you name it so that he could explore those areas.
So - he was likely awake... but, if he was awake... then why doesn't he have the power to use his orb?
Yes, they could "solve" this plot hole by saying his servants moved his body... seems lame to me though.
He had the knowledge to do so, but lacked the minimal power. In his own words, he was too weak.
What baffles me is that he could've asked for Flemeth's help. But would she have agreed to do it? After all, once fully activated, the orb's power would've destroyed the world...
He had the knowledge to do so, but lacked the minimal power. In his own words, he was too weak.
What baffles me is that he could've asked for Flemeth's help. But would she have agreed to do it? After all, once fully activated, the orb's power would've destroyed the world...
The game obviously doesn't let us talk to Solas about Flemythal specifically but he did sound genuinely surprised in the temple when he realised Mythal lived.
And he did hint that he'd been to Flemeth's hut so he knew about the Witch of the Wilds but probably not that she's a combination of Flemeth and Mythal.
Maybe he did go looking for Flemeth planning to use her to unlock the orb and when he couldn't find her decided to use Cory instead.
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