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[Valdrane78]

Why waste the space on the XB One?  Honestly, I don't see the point of DL'ing 360 games on the One.  The One only has so much space and I can tell you, it goes quickly.  I've already had to remove around a dozen games off my One because of space.  It wouldn't be a problem if you could play the 360 games from the disc, but they also require you DL the game onto the One to play.  Save your space for a game you can't also play on the 360.

[Deathjester929]

Why waste the space on the XB One?  Honestly, I don't see the point of DL'ing 360 games on the One.  The One only has so much space and I can tell you, it goes quickly.  I've already had to remove around a dozen games off my One because of space.  It wouldn't be a problem if you could play the 360 games from the disc, but they also require you DL the game onto the One to play.  Save your space for a game you can't also play on the 360.

 

You can buy external HD's for very cheap now and some are actually faster than the 5xxx RPM drive in the XB1/PS4. That is the one big plus it has over the PS4. On the PS4 you have to open the thing  up and install a new drive. Add to that a 100ish dollar (U.S) external has 3-4 times the size as the standard XB1 drive.

 

No I do not have any horse in this race and I will never buy either console as a PC Gamer. Just saying that space on a XB1? Not a big deal at all .

 

Check PC Part Picker for the lowest price on the external hard drive once you find a model. Will show you all the online vendors like Newegg, NCIX, Amazon etc. You can also change the countries on it.

 

Anyways happy gaming. 

[N-7]

Mass effect must have mass effect for xbox one. Eheh ehaa heaa withdraws o.O <~ crazy eye lol

[AlanC9]

Why waste the space on the XB One?  Honestly, I don't see the point of DL'ing 360 games on the One.  The One only has so much space and I can tell you, it goes quickly.  I've already had to remove around a dozen games off my One because of space.  It wouldn't be a problem if you could play the 360 games from the disc, but they also require you DL the game onto the One to play.  Save your space for a game you can't also play on the 360.

I don't quite get this. I's not like you can't just DL and delete stuff at will, right? If I'm going to play a 30+ hour game, there's no problem with letting it DL for a few hours while I'm not using the thing anyway.

[Deathjester929]

http://wccftech.com/...-compatibility/

 

Possible exciting news for people who want this on Xbox One. Looks like in early 2016 we might have the first multiple disc game work with backwards compatibility. 

 

This means that the Mass Effect games past 1 that were more than one disc might be possible now. Still will require a "port" in a way, so maybe by Summer? Not a console player, but thought this may be good news for some of you.

[LudoPunk]

The discourse on this thread was gr8. We need more threads that get derailed like this imo.

//constantly late to the party

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Go to Xbox.com and to backward compatibility and vote. Mass Effect 2 and 3 have over 60,000 votes at this time. The more votes the better. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Go to Xbox.com and to backward compatibility and vote. Mass Effect 2 and 3 have over 60,000 votes at this time. The more votes the better. 

Not really. They know people want them, but they can't do anything until they can address the problems that arise with games with multiple disks. Though it sounds like they're getting closer to figuring a solution out. 

[ZipZap2000]

It will cost you less to buy a used 360 you can play all 3 games on than buying storage space for an Xbox1.


I checked before Christmas.

[Killroy]

It will cost you less to buy a used 360 you can play all 3 games on than buying storage space for an Xbox1.


I checked before Christmas.

 

You can buy a nice, highly rated 1TB external HDD for your XB1 for ~$50. And not take up an additional HDMI input on your TV or space in your entertainment center/TV stand. 

[ZipZap2000]

You can buy a nice, highly rated 1TB external HDD for your XB1 for ~$50. And not take up an additional HDMI input on your TV or space in your entertainment center/TV stand.

I can get a whole xbox for $50 and did. Came with a free game but I didn't want it.

Dunno where you are but $50 in store sounds super suss.

Edit: So $50 all 3 games no DL and optional freebies.

[Novak]

Xbox 360 and PS3 utilized an entirely different hardware set and games were coded for exactly that. PS3 was even worse than the xbox because of their cell processor architecture which used 7 cores one to allocate resources and the other 6 to handle specific processing tasks. Which made it very powerful (in fact more powerful than modern intel CPU's, the Army bought about 400 of PS3 to rip out their processors and use them for certain calculations) with about 220 gigaflops when working on matrix calculations. But that **** made it really really a pain in the ass to develop and code for. 

The xbox 360  was a little better it had a 3 core 3.2 ghz power-pc based cpu designed by IBM. Which meant both were not running on the commonly x86 instruction set which is standard for pretty much every desktop and notebook computers. GPU's in both were a little more similar but still different with the PS3 still utilizing dedicated shader pipelines unlike the new unified shader pipelines. 

 

Anyway, now that the consoles are much closer to a PC architecture with their x86 instruction sets and based on GCN architecture by amd, that also means they moved away from the last gen console architecture and doesn't have that much in common with them anymore. So what does that have to do with anything? Well let's first start with the issue of emulators. Since Emulators basically translate input and instructions sets there is a lot of processing to do even when performing simple tasks since the processing units have to translate everything in the old input sets which might result in dozens of processes even when a native platform would only need one. So you have a crap load of processes to run. 

Now you might ask why does ME1 work then. Well ME1 needed a lot less horsepower to run to begin with so the processor is able to handle the game even with all the overhead from emulating it. That's why you can easily use smartphones and such to emulate old Gameboy color games since the actual processing required is so little and the overhead can easily be handled by the CPU. With the more demanding ME2 and ME3 this was probably not possible anymore (I don't know for sure because this is all proprietary information which I can't access). 

 

The second way to run an older game on a newer set of hardware is through the use of compatibility layers. Which in essence is only providing the necessary dependencies for running a certain application. In a Windows OS those a typically .dll files which give certain instructions on how to handle information coming and and what to do with it. A compatibility layer works much in the sense a windows xp applications works in something like windows 7. Which in that sense is called the legacy support (one of the reasons why windows when installed has gotten so big while linux and OS X stayed relatively small, they don't support that from the get go) and provides all the older .dll dependencies to successfully run an executable. The .exe files only search for the required .dll and check versions and such and redirect information inputs etc.

 

Given the nature of newly designed consoles I'm leaning towards emulation and not so much a compatibility layer since the different architectures are bond to give you a lot of trouble since it's not just a software difference which can be solved by simply shoving the required files in the system but actually the available instructions given by the hardware provided. 

In the case of the consoles it probably would be easier to make the PC versions of the games run on the consoles than making the old console software run on the new ones. 

[Deebo305]

You can buy a nice, highly rated 1TB external HDD for your XB1 for ~$50. And not take up an additional HDMI input on your TV or space in your entertainment center/TV stand. 

Even less if you use eBay, got mine for $20

 

I say just get the ME Trilogy with all 3 games and simply be patient

[Killroy]

I can get a whole xbox for $50 and did. Came with a free game but I didn't want it.

But that's not cheaper. That's the same price. And also an unreliable used console.

Dunno where you are but $50 in store sounds super suss.

...what? Go to Amazon.

Edit: So $50 all 3 games no DL and optional freebies.

...what?

[ZipZap2000]

But that's not cheaper. That's the same price. And also an unreliable used console.


...what? Go to Amazon.


...what?

Its not unreliable its newly refurbished and now you're adding delivery times to your purchase.

I've yet to see one in store for $50 au closest was $69 I say that because i asked around trying to find 360 storage (Checking to see if a $30 4gig +storage would be cheaper.)

They don't sell those so I was directed towards current gen. In all its expensive glory.

Not a one for $50.

[Killroy]

Its not unreliable its newly refurbished and now you're adding delivery times to your purchase.

I've yet to see one in store for $50 au closest was $69 I say that because i asked around trying to find 360 storage (Checking to see if a $30 4gig +storage would be cheaper.)

They don't sell those so I was directed towards current gen. In all its expensive glory.

Not a one for $50.

Uhhhh, who cares if you have to wait a few days for delivery? You're trying to move the goalposts. I can order one for less than $50 on amazon and have it my hands two days later. And you can't find a single HDD for $50 but you can find a refurbished 360 for $50? I call BS. They start at $70 at GameStop, not even refurbished.

[ZipZap2000]

Uhhhh, who cares if you have to wait a few days for delivery? You're trying to move the goalposts. I can order one for less than $50 on amazon and have it my hands two days later. And you can't find a single HDD for $50 but you can find a refurbished 360 for $50? I call BS. They start at $70 at GameStop, not even refurbished.

They don't even have gamestop here.

And a 50c phone call to a store will get you the locations of sales in your city. Believe it or not used game stores were overstocked with xbox 360 consoles at that time of year. $80au before Xmas post Christmas boxing day sale $50au.

Was a good deal I also upgraded my sons library and found brand new PS4 versions of

Skylanders Swapforce everything included $10au (Target)

Lego Batman $10au (BigW)

Minecraft $15au (Kmart)


It isn't difficult to do if you know what you're doing. Money saved is money earned and all that.

[Killroy]

And yet you can't figure out online shopping?

[Fortlowe]

Meeeeeeeehhhh. Figured we'd be playing these games on XB1 by now. The two disc thing must be a real *****. 

[Deebo305]

Meeeeeeeehhhh. Figured we'd be playing these games on XB1 by now. The two disc thing must be a real *****.

For Mass Effect 2 & 3 its especially weird since some portions had you switch disc from 1st to 2nd then back again. I believe the Suicide Mission had you put back in the 1st disc if I remember correctly

[Osena109]

I  bought Mass effect  trilogy on Ps3 for 9 dollars all digital. what I don't understand why is there no digital mass effect trilogy on the xbox 360?

[Vespasian 91]

Why waste the space on the XB One?  Honestly, I don't see the point of DL'ing 360 games on the One.  The One only has so much space and I can tell you, it goes quickly.  I've already had to remove around a dozen games off my One because of space.  It wouldn't be a problem if you could play the 360 games from the disc, but they also require you DL the game onto the One to play.  Save your space for a game you can't also play on the 360.

Like others said get an external hard drive, got a 2tb hooked up to mine.

[spinachdiaper]

Well they already have made at least one multi-disc game backwards compatible (The Witcher 2),  but If it's too much of a hassle for Multi-disc 360 games I hope MS just pulls a fast one and ports modified PC versions in their place.

[ExelArtz]

What about dlc for mass effect 3 would I be able to play it because I have the reckoner-knight armor and all other dlc armors and can I get the EC and The other dlc like the one that lets me play me3 right away by going through me1&2 And choosing what I did during them, cousin broke my me1 disc

[Maples01]

Well, I digitally downloaded all 3 to my PC, and for those saying the new consoles are like the PC, then there shouldn't be a problem, the 2 disk excuse has gotten old, my Witcher 2 is 2 disk, yet it is backward compatible.