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[Hanako Ikezawa]

I literally said in my post that he is technically a terrorist, but it does not bear the meaning of modern use of the word in this context. I already explained this, but it seems since the post turned out wrong many ignored it. Oh well.

People in stadium are not the responsible organization for oppressing people, the chantry is. The people in stadium having fun had nothing to with anyone's suffering. The Chantry made sure Anders suffered for every year of his life. I literally cannot name a mage who suffered more than Anders under the hands of the system. I wouldn't be lying if I said the Chantry had it coming. But one can never justify bombing a stadium. You hate someone for who they are and torment them for all of their life, they will eventually blow up in your face, quite literally in Anders' case. Again this does not apply to a stadium and in general modern use of the word Terrorism.

 

Anders' was more of a war crime than anything else.

Really? I can think of a lot of mages who have suffered more than Anders has easily. Pretty much any mage in the Kirkwall Circle comes to mind. Compared to them, life in the Ferelden Circle was easy, and most of the suffering Anders got was because he acted up. 

 

A terrorist is defined as a person who employs the use of terrorism, which is a kind of warfare tactic that dates back thousands of years. There is no modern connotation. Throughout history all the people who employed that tactic against the same kinds of targets were seen as terrorists, same people using guerrilla tactics being seen as guerrillas. 

[berelinde]

I think this is because of the veil. With the veil, spirits are generally not able to properly manifest in the physical world on their own without becoming a demon. The only way for a spirit to safely manifest is to take the body of a physical being (like in the case of Avvars). 

 

Also, regarding the Redcliffe future in In Hushed Whispers, which has been brought up a few times, the veracity of this future is highly questionable, because the whole quest is arguably an illusion created by the fade (http://forum.bioware...ck-of-the-fade/).

The Librarians in the Crossroads library were driven mad by the mortals they encountered, so it's likely that spirits' vulnerability to corruption isn't going to go away simply because the Veil comes down. You quote a thesis written by yourself as proof that Redcliffe was an illusion, but as always, I'm going to go by what the game actually shows us, especially since the world we see in Redcliffe is highly similar to the Raw Fade we experience after entering the rift at Adamant. Demons everywhere. Yes, you have one helpful Fade entity, Justinia or a spirit who manifests as Justinia to provide a frame of reference, but by and large, everyone you meet in the Fade is a demon. One could argue that the portion of the Fade the party enters is influenced by and corrupted by Nightmare and the atrocities at Adamant. They would be absolutely right! But that proves my point: the Fade and its denizens reflect the mortal world. The mortal world has changed, and so has the Fade. Combining a world corrupted by politics and ambition with its Fade reflection is not going to be an improvement.

 

You can't unscramble an egg. Solas may now regret creating the Veil, but the world he hopes to restore is gone. 

[Lulupab]

Really? I can think of a lot of mages who have suffered more than Anders has easily. Pretty much any mage in the Kirkwall Circle comes to mind. Compared to them, life in the Ferelden Circle was easy, and most of the suffering Anders got was because he acted up. 

 

A terrorist is just a person who employs the use of terrorism, which is a kind of warfare that dates back thousands of years. There is no modern connotation. Throughout history all the people who employed that tactic against the same kinds of targets were seen as terrorists, same people using guerrilla tactics being seen as guerrillas. 

 

Dragged from Anderfels to Ferelden.

Spent almost ten years in solitary. Do you know how HORRIBLE that is? to speak only with a cat all those years?

Then proceeding to send spies and agents to get him even when he joined Grey wardens.

 

Nope you cannot beat that, not with some nameless mage who apparently lived in Kirkwall.

 

There is in fact a modern connotation. Not sure how you can miss it. Modern terrorism acts to instill fear in people to make them think their governments cannot protect them and it almost always targets innocent people who have NOTHING to do with anything related to these incidents. Not to mention they are almost always suicidal because... nevermind.

[Sable Rhapsody]

You can't unscramble an egg. Solas may now regret creating the Veil, but the world he hopes to restore is gone. 

 

But you can unboil one!

 

All Solas needs is a little science to recover those pre-Veil amino acids 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Dragged from Anderfels to Ferelden.

Spent almost ten years in solitary. Do you know how HORRIBLE that is? to speak only with a cat all those years?

Then proceeding to send spies and agents to get him even when he joined Grey wardens.

It was one year in solitary confinement, not ten. And that only happened after repeated escape attempts. As I said, most of the suffering Anders received was self-inflicted because of his behavior. Meanwhile let's compare that to Ser Alrik's victims, innocent people who did nothing wrong yet were raped and made Tranquil because he fancied them. Yeah, I'm going to go with the latter as having it worse. 

[Cobra's_back]

Again, "destroying" the world is figurative and metaphorical. It doesn't necessarily mean what you think it means. And nowhere does he say returning the world into raw chaos (clearly, not possible, since the fade itself was created from raw chaos). 

Sorry I don't think that is what he meant. He will tell his love interest and friend that you have to die. I played it four times all with such high approvals the game stop giving me points for him. When you ask why we have to die? He states, It would be easy for me to tell you because i like you so much but i can't. 

[Almostfaceman]

Solas: I am not Corypheus. I take no joy in this. But the return of my people means the end of yours. 

 

Solas: I hope this gives your people some final peace. 

 

He uses these exact lines for a Dalish Inquisitor the same he would for a human, dwarf or qunari.

 

His new plan, whatever it may be, involves destruction of the current world and end of all of its mortal inhabitants so that he bring back his people. Sure he mentions restoration but he makes a point of stating that he means to restore his people, not the elves of today. And while yes, he did try to connect to the Dalish and Sera that was when he still trying to figure out whether he'd go ahead with his plan and if their were any worth in modern elves. He comes to the conclusion if your friends with him that there is, but that doesn't change his course of action. He just feels bad about it now.

 

But you know what, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your right in that Solas plans on uplifting his followers to super elf status at the expense of all the other inhabitants of Thedas. That's still freaking awful and monstrous! Corypheus wanted to do the same thing for his Venatori so that he could bring back the ancient days of Tevinter, but I stopped him because his plan was insane and harmed everyone that wasn't one of his people. The only difference between Solas and Corypheus is that at least Solas has the decency to feel bad about what he's doing. And look, I feel bad for Solas on some level and want his people to be restored people and for elves to be in a better position in Thedas, but regardless the extinction of every other on Thedas is to high of a price. 

 

To your last point about elves possibly being restored if the Veil is collapsed without Solas I'd point towards the bad future in Redcliffe where the Veil was all but coming down and the result was reality falling apart and Sera most definitely not suddenly having magical powers or immortality. 

 

Uh... I didn't say it's not awful for Solas's plan as-is to come to fruition. Millions of people kicking the bucket is bad. 

 

As with the "bad future"... you don't see Solas with super-powers either. That's because there's not a complete sundering of the Veil and not a restoration of the "natural" state of Thedas. There's just giant rips... controlled by Corypants by the way... letting loose spirits in a really bad way. Apples and oranges. 

[Lulupab]

It was one year in solitary confinement, not ten. And that only happened after repeated escape attempts. As I said, most of the suffering Anders received was self-inflicted because of his behavior. Meanwhile let's compare that to Ser Alrik's victims, innocent people who did nothing wrong yet were raped and made Tranquil because he fancied them. Yeah, I'm going to go with the latter as having it worse. 

 

He was sent to solitary every time he escaped, sometimes more than one year.

 

So? He acted up, as he had every right to. Its not just his personal suffering. Its seeing the suffering of his fellow mages and not being able to do anything. The Tranquil cannot save themselves, as you well know.

[Almostfaceman]

You can't unscramble an egg. Solas may now regret creating the Veil, but the world he hopes to restore is gone. 

 

If you mean "the society" when you say "the world" - yes. 

 

If you mean the true state of nature... well then that's going to be restored when the artificial state held in place by the Veil is released. 

[ComedicSociopathy]

Uh... I didn't say it's not awful for Solas's plan as-is to come to fruition. Millions of people kicking the bucket is bad. 

 

As with the "bad future"... you don't see Solas with super-powers either. That's because there's not a complete sundering of the Veil and not a restoration of the "natural" state of Thedas. There's just giant rips... controlled by Corypants by the way... letting loose spirits in a really bad way. Apples and oranges. 

 

No, what you said is that you believe that Solas means to restore the modern elves to their glory and I just refuted that claim using dialogue from the game. 

[Almostfaceman]

No, what you said is that you believe that Solas means to restore the modern elves to their glory and I just refuted that claim using dialogue from the game. 

 

No, I said Solas will restore their true natural state. Whether or not glory follows depends on a lot of things. 

[Almostfaceman]

Solas: I am not Corypheus. I take no joy in this. But the return of my people means the end of yours. 

 

Solas: I hope this gives your people some final peace. 

 

He uses these exact lines for a Dalish Inquisitor the same he would for a human, dwarf or qunari.

 

 

This doesn't refute my point at all. "your people" in the context of a dwarf, human, qunari, or a "modern" elf simply means anyone he doesn't see as on his side. You'll notice he doesn't even bother to ask the Inquisitor, elven or not, to join him. Bioware very deliberately made the Inquisitor a character who wouldn't be okay with millions of people dying to restore the elves. 

 

Bioware did the same thing with Shepard... you couldn't play him as a villain no matter how much you wanted to do so. 

[Former_Fiend]

Three reasons, two of them meta and one of them not.

 

For the not meta reason, well he's trying to kill pretty much everyone and is already responsible for the deaths of a hell of a lot of people. I've gone on at length about this in other threads so I won't take up a lot of space with it here.

 

For the meta reasons... well, first of all I'm irked that I'm supposed to feel more sympathy for Solas than I was for Corypheus when they're exactly the same in all the ways that matter. Corypheus had less remorse, less guilt, didn't apologize, but at the end of the day what he was doing was, in every meaningful way, exactly what Solas is trying to do now. He was trying to restore his homeland to it's former glory at the expense of everyone else. I have no more sympathy for Solas than I did for Corypheus. If anything, I have less.

 

The second meta reason is actually completely unrelated to Solas himself or any of his actions. It's his position on the Grey Wardens and what that means on the meta level. I've ranted elsewhere about my absolute disdain for the rout they're going with the Wardens and the Old Gods and the Blight. If that plotline is going to be what I think it is - and pretty much everyone agrees that it is - I am going to lose my ****. Solas has the unfortunate position of being the mouth piece for that plotline, so he gets a fair bit of hatred by proxy from me for that. I'm also not particularly fond of his arguments against the Qun, but that's a minor thing compared to everything else.

 

Ultimately they missed every mark they could with me to get me to sympathize with Solas at all. I see how others can find him sympathetic, but I cannot find it in me to sympathize with him at all. And it's not that I'm incapable of sympathizing with morally compromised characters. Loghain is my favorite character in the franchise. I'm a huge fan of Oghren, Sten, Zevran, Morrigan, Merrill, Isabela, Blackwall, Bull, the Arishok. In the ME franchise I'm a huge fan of Miranda, Jack, Thane, Zaeed, and Mordin. All of these characters have done very morally questionable to out and out evil things, and I love them not in spite of that, but often because of it. Because of the complexity of their morality, because of their flawed, broken natures. 

 

With Solas.... I just want to stab him in the gut, spit on him as he lays there bleeding to death, and walk away as he curses my name in impotent anger. Honestly I give Bioware credit because they managed to get a very visceral reaction out of me with Solas in regards to how much I just want to kill him. 

[Aeratus]

The Librarians in the Crossroads library were driven mad by the mortals they encountered, so it's likely that spirits' vulnerability to corruption isn't going to go away simply because the Veil comes down. You quote a thesis written by yourself as proof that Redcliffe was an illusion, but as always, I'm going to go by what the game actually shows us, especially since the world we see in Redcliffe is highly similar to the Raw Fade we experience after entering the rift at Adamant. Demons everywhere. Yes, you have one helpful Fade entity, Justinia or a spirit who manifests as Justinia to provide a frame of reference, but by and large, everyone you meet in the Fade is a demon. One could argue that the portion of the Fade the party enters is influenced by and corrupted by Nightmare and the atrocities at Adamant. They would be absolutely right! But that proves my point: the Fade and its denizens reflect the mortal world. The mortal world has changed, and so has the Fade. Combining a world corrupted by politics and ambition with its Fade reflection is not going to be an improvement.

 

You can't unscramble an egg. Solas may now regret creating the Veil, but the world he hopes to restore is gone. 

 

Everyone you meet in the fade is a demon, just like how everyone you meet in the Hinterlands is hostile. It's due to the nature of the game being a combat-oriented game that each area presents you with a flood of enemies (rather than friendlies). 

 

Even the fade itself is not necessarily a hostile environment. For example, in the Solas romance, he takes you to a Haven-reenactment in the fade. 

 

And even if the Redcliffe scene were realistic, my response would also be:

 

As with the "bad future"... you don't see Solas with super-powers either. That's because there's not a complete sundering of the Veil and not a restoration of the "natural" state of Thedas. There's just giant rips... controlled by Corypants by the way... letting loose spirits in a really bad way. Apples and oranges. 

 

Removing the veil isn't the same as having Cory poking holes in it. The breaches may permit demons to physically step through, but does not necessarily integrate the essence of the fade with the essence of the real world. I posit that the sprit in the fade need the essence of the real world in order to refrain from becoming demons.

 

Furthermore, the nightmare demon is intentionally sending demons and bad stuff through the fade. What comes through the breaches isn't representative of the entire population of spirits/demons in the fade.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

He was sent to solitary every time he escaped, sometimes more than one year.

No, only his second-to-last attempt got him sent to solitary confinement for a year. 

 

From his page on the DA wiki: 

Anders is a spirit healer. Upon arriving at the Circle, he refused to speak and came to be known as "Anders" due to the fact that his family was from the Anderfels.When he started to exhibit magical abilities and set a barn on fire, his father grew afraid of him. At the age of twelve, he was handcuffed and taken by the templars to the Circle Tower in Ferelden. The only personal possession he was allowed to keep was a pillow hand-embroidered by his mother. Anders despised the Circle and compared it to a prison. His first escape attempt was made six months after arriving there. When asked why he escaped, he tearfully replied that he had simply wanted to go home. He made at least seven attempts, each time being re-captured. Yet, First Enchanter Irving believed that Anders, however reckless, posed no true threat. Anders's next-to-last escape earned him a year of solitary confinement, in which the only company he had most days was the tower's mouser named Mr. Wiggums. According to Anders, the cat became possessed by a rage demon and took out three templars. The final time Anders managed to run away was prior to Uldred's uprising.

 

So? He acted up, as he had every right to. Its not just his personal suffering. Its seeing the suffering of his fellow mages and not being able to do anything. The Tranquil cannot save themselves, as you well know.

Yes, he has the right to act up, just like everybody else. But like everybody else, there are consequences for every action. That's how civilization works. Also, it was his actions that led to the mages suffering more, like for example the mages in Ferelden's Circle losing yard privileges because of his repeated escape attempts or the mages in Kirkwall's Circle being exterminated because he killed hundreds of innocent people in the hopes to spark a war. Among all the mages who have suffered, Anders has gotten off easy. 

 

But I'm done. This thread is about Solas not Anders. 

[ComedicSociopathy]

This doesn't refute my point at all. "your people" in the context of a dwarf, human, qunari, or a "modern" elf simply means anyone he doesn't see as on his side. You'll notice he doesn't even bother to ask the Inquisitor, elven or not, to join him. Bioware very deliberately made the Inquisitor a character who wouldn't be okay with millions of people dying to restore the elves. 

 

Bioware did the same thing with Shepard... you couldn't play him as a villain no matter how much you wanted to do so. 

 

...

 

Then why would they give a Dalish Inquisitor the dialogue option to join Solas? He shots you down, but the option was still there for you to pick. Said Dalish Inquisitor even says that their willing to sacrifice themselves to let the ancient elves return even if that meant the loss of every friend they'll ever known which I'd think would include members of their clan. 

[Medhia_Nox]

No, I said Solas will restore their true natural state. Whether or not glory follows depends on a lot of things. 

 

The true natural state where they hunted humans, enslaved their own kind, killed titans, slaughtered dwarves and possibly imprisoned the Old Gods while creating psudo-gods of their own that may actually have created the darkspawn through their own carelessness?  You mean that natural state? 

Solas is a mad idiot for wanting the elves to be returned to that. 

 

I never EVER thought I'd say this... but the Dalish are the BETTER elves (though hilariously they seem addicted to following the same self-destructive power mongering path as their ancestors).

[CardButton]

I will admit I probably am in the minority in that I do really believe that despite how similar they appear the Modern Elves and their Ancient counterparts have something intrinsically different between them (and not just Modern Elves simple removal from the Fade).  When Abelas says things like "You are NOT my people" I'm taking him literally on this, rather than translating it into something like simple elitism (after all he is sporting Valleslin himself).  

 

As such I'll be a bit more forgiving of Solas if he actually is trying to save the remainder of the Ancient Elvhen (if they even exist) and less so if he's trying to do something to or with the Modern Elves.  While I don't agree with what he is doing, I will find him a bit more sympathetic if the reason he feels he has to bring down the Veil is that he thinks that if he doesn't it is akin to dooming the remainder of his species to extinction.  That's a hell of a hard decision to make, especially for someone who already blames himself for the destruction of their world.

 

I also take Solas literally when he says he wants to bring back the world of the Ancient Elvhen.  My assumption (for how little its worth) is that he's not trying to bring back empire, or even Elvhen sovereignty (even if that is a byproduct of everyone else dying from the Veil's removal), but rather he is trying to remake a world that he deems hospitable for the remainder of his people.  The Thedas connected to the Fade where they won't have to worry about the quickening. 

[Abyss108]

The true natural state where they hunted humans, enslaved their own kind, killed titans, slaughtered dwarves and possibly imprisoned the Old Gods while creating psudo-gods of their own that may actually have created the darkspawn through their own carelessness?  You mean that natural state? 

Solas is a mad idiot for wanting the elves to be returned to that. 

 

I never EVER thought I'd say this... but the Dalish are the BETTER elves (though hilariously they seem addicted to following the same self-destructive power mongering path as their ancestors).

 

Not sure you can really blame ancient elves as a species for any of this, when it was all done by their 7-9 leaders who magically enslaved the rest of them.

[Aeratus]

Not sure you can really blame ancient elves as a species for any of this, when it was all done by their 7-9 leaders who magically enslaved the rest of them.

 

Not to mention, Solas was the one who cured all the flaws of ancient elven civilization by banishing the Evanuris. 

[Ashagar]

Who are only banished because of the veil which in Solas's view destroyed his people leaving only lingering groups in the remote places of Thadas like Abelas's group and the others that Solas mentioned which are likely the people he mentioned he's bringing their world back for. The thing is once the veil goes down the Evanuris and any supporters that were with them will be back and they will have had thousands of years to plan what they are going to do to Solas and everyone else for that matter.

[CardButton]

Who are only banished because of the veil which in Solas's view destroyed his people leaving only lingering groups in the remote places of Thadas like Abelas's group and the others that Solas mentioned which are likely the people he mentioned he's bringing their world back for. The thing is once the veil goes down the Evanuris and any supporters that were with them will be back and they will have had thousands of years to plan what they are going to do to Solas and everyone else for that matter.

Well, unless of course there are other pocket dimensions like the Shattered Library or the Crossroads where in which his people remain trapped and dormant.  Or if there is any legitimacy to the idea that perhaps the "Black City" is actually Arlathan and he used the entire city as a trap for the Evanuris when he put up the Veil (which is still a long shot idea, but interesting if its true ... plus regardless of Black or Gold I reall doubt that city was ever the seat of the Maker).  If either is the case there is really no telling just how many Ancient Elvhen are lingering around "masked in a mirror, hiding, hurting".

 

Plus considering how much damage the removal to the Fade had on the Elven populations left in Thedas, who knows what kind of damage the removal of Thedas could have had Elves if they were physically trapped in the Fade?  

 

But again this is all guess-work atm. 

[berelinde]

 

But you can unboil one!

 

All Solas needs is a little science to recover those pre-Veil amino acids 

 

Yeah, but would anybody want to eat an egg saturated with urea and spun on a centrifuge?

 

I'm not in absolute earnest here (and neither are you, I suspect). I was just geeking out.

 

If you mean "the society" when you say "the world" - yes. 

 

If you mean the true state of nature... well then that's going to be restored when the artificial state held in place by the Veil is released. 

No, I meant "world." The world Solas knew has changed. He's the one who changed it, but once he gave it a push, it kept on changing. It now contains things like red lyrium and a socio-political infrastructure that shapes reality as if it were a natural phenomenon, but even if it didn't have either of those things, it would not be the same as the world he knew. As anyone who has ever worn a cast for a broken limb can tell you, things don't just spring back to normal the moment you cut the cast off.

 

I was actually thinking about this on my drive home. Solas tells the inquisitor a story about a spirit he encountered in the Fade who had forgotten its own identity. "I've forgotten," the spirit said, "there remains no word for what I was." Inertia is a very real thing, and Thedas seems to have its own equivalent of the second law of thermodynamics ("The entropy of a closed system always increases over time.") Ultimately, it doesn't matter whether the changes were natural or artificial, the changes were permanent.

 

 

 

What comes through the breaches isn't representative of the entire population of spirits/demons in the fade.

 

Is there a bouncer at the rifts telling spirits they aren't demonic enough to get through? Or is it simply a case of both spirits and demons getting through, but spirits becoming corrupted on contact with the corporeal world?

 

The Breach didn't drive them mad. Remember Cole? He predated the Breach. He entered the world to help, but what did he do? He killed a bunch of mages. He meant well, but that doesn't make those mages any more alive. He didn't understand the world. He was confused. He knew he was killing people, but he thought he was helping.

 

Cole is a spirit of compassion, and his intentions were completely above reproach. How will more ambiguous spirits react? We've already had a brush with Justice's failure to adapt, and I don't imagine Valor or Zeal would do much better. If the Veil is no more, there will be nothing to prevent spirits of every description from dropping into the world, and there won't be a patient guide to help them adjust. Spirits don't adapt to changes very well, Solas tells us. He says they don't grow, that they don't understand emotions, they embody them. Plus, the natural state for a spirit is what Solas describes as "a peaceful semi-existence." Change to their environment is likely to be damaging.

 

To summarize, however well or poorly both ancient and modern races might fare in a merged world, spirits will probably fare far, far worse.

 

In the end, which would weigh heavier on Solas's conscience? The knowledge that he was responsible for the destruction of the elvhen or the knowledge that he was responsible for the destruction of the elvhen, modern peoples, and spiritkind? Then he really will die alone.

[Aeratus]

Who are only banished because of the veil which in Solas's view destroyed his people leaving only lingering groups in the remote places of Thadas like Abelas's group and the others that Solas mentioned which are likely the people he mentioned he's bringing their world back for. The thing is once the veil goes down the Evanuris and any supporters that were with them will be back and they will have had thousands of years to plan what they are going to do to Solas and everyone else for that matter.

 

I'm totally down for a dramatic showdown between the gods. 

 

Plus, it is what Mythal wants, I think. Mythal wants her vengeance on the Evanuris, and is allying with Solas to achieve her goal. 

[CardButton]

The Breach didn't drive them mad. Remember Cole? He predated the Breach. He entered the world to help, but what did he do? He killed a bunch of mages. He meant well, but that doesn't make those mages any more alive. He didn't understand the world. He was confused. He knew he was killing people, but he thought he was helping.

 

Cole is a spirit of compassion, and his intentions were completely above reproach. How will more ambiguous spirits react? We've already had a brush with Justice's failure to adapt, and I don't imagine Valor or Zeal would do much better. If the Veil is no more, there will be nothing to prevent spirits of every description from dropping into the world, and there won't be a patient guide to help them adjust. Spirits don't adapt to changes very well, Solas tells us. He says they don't grow, that they don't understand emotions, they embody them. Plus, the natural state for a spirit is what Solas describes as "a peaceful semi-existence." Change to their environment is likely to be damaging.

 

To summarize, however well or poorly both ancient and modern races might fare in a merged world, spirits will probably fare far, far worse.

 

In the end, which would weigh heavier on Solas's conscience? The knowledge that he was responsible for the destruction of the elvhen or the knowledge that he was responsible for the destruction of the elvhen, modern peoples, and spiritkind? Then he really will die alone.

Yeah, this is kind of why I get the feeling considering how big the Veil decision actually is  ... if we the players get to help in making it, it it will boil down to two relatively similar endings for the Veil, but very different endings for Solas himself.  Save his life, give him an alternative, or butcher him wholesale and watch him squirm, it is rather apparent that the Veil is weakening with or without his presence.  It may be taking a long ass time, but the formation of weak spots and tears in the Veil prove that its not an eternal thing and will eventually collapse on its own without the proper upkeep.

 

Regardless of how drastic the Solas decision is, I see the Veil decision being let it continue to decay on its own unimpeded, or give it a more stable decay (more evenly across its entirety).  Essentially what this will do is give a time table for the end of the "Dragon Age" and the start of a new Age (but still allow for plenty of time for Bioware to continue adventures within it) and give time for the denizens of both worlds (The Fade and Thedas) to more gradually get used to becoming one again.