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[AlanC9]

No, it was a big disappointment in every aspect for me. Most of the LI options are terrible and unfair,

Unfair? What do you mean by that?

[GoldenGail3]

Unfair? What do you mean by that?

He's upset that Cullen isn't a Bi option. Thats basically it.

[Andrew Lucas]

He's upset that Cullen isn't a Bi option. Thats basically it.

Notice how he highlights the romance as being the major part of the disappointment.

Sometimes I wonder if people actually play these games.

[Al Foley]

Notice how he highlights the romance as being the major part of the disappointment.

Sometimes I wonder if people actually play these games.

Given the criticism leveled at things like DA I and TFA and GoT and Doctor Who I just think that sometimes people don't pay attention more then they don't actually consume said entertainment.  Or they go in with some weird pre concieved notion and then make the narrative fit their facts instead of their facts fit the narratie. 

[KaiserShep]

Well, to be fair, Doctor Who's been a hot mess for a while. 

[AlanC9]

You mean, since forever?

[actionhero112]

Main complaints

-Halamshiral ties into the books which need to be read for the area to have real significance to the player. Games should not rely on outside information other than previous games in the series. 

 

-Massive bugs when the game was released. Took 6 months for the game to truly work properly. Made a Bethesda game look perfect.

 

-No mod support. 

 

-Shards/Bottles/Mosaics. This isn't a platformer, you can encourage players to explore your world with compelling stories rather than pointless collectibles. 

 

-Tactics system removal. Giving a player less control is never a good thing.

 

-PC version is a port. I have a mouse. Why do I have to be within a certain range to interact with things. Why can't I click on things and have my character run over to interact with them. 

 

-Vanilla game had the majority of it's best loot locked behind RNG. Required farming that was not fun. 

[MzChaos]

Hawke put it best, "Could be better, could be worse."

[GoldenGail3]

Notice how he highlights the romance as being the major part of the disappointment.

Sometimes I wonder if people actually play these games.

They think of them as dating sims, I suppose. Sometimes I think the main plot isn't important compare to the romances in game...

[Tidus]

IMHO I fully believe a lot of people rush through a game not knowing what is really going on since their main goal is a speed run or see how many they can kill. One really needs to slow down and listen to what is going on regardless how many times they have beaten a game.

 

As a example. I played and beaten DA:O and DA:A several times and I still find something new.

[Battlebloodmage]

Notice how he highlights the romance as being the major part of the disappointment.

Sometimes I wonder if people actually play these games.

I never highlighted it as the major part of the disappointment but one of the disappointments while playing the game. It was a list in no particular order so get off your high horse. The thread asking for what I think about the game, so I list the parts that have affected my enjoyment that related to me and no one else. 

[Catilina]

I really hate the shard gathering. Mainly because those placed in stupid  hard to reach places. This is not a ****** super mario, that human (elf, dwarf, qunari) jump like a goat ... simply time-wasting nonsense.

 

Did I mention that I hate a lot of rock… and the map, that does not show the gateway?

[Midnight Bliss]

Notice how he highlights the romance as being the major part of the disappointment.

Sometimes I wonder if people actually play these games.

To be fair all but two of the DAI romances were pretty bad. And one of those two not many people like, soooo...

[Cyberstrike nTo]

I avoid the spoilers forum since i ve still yet to play the dlcs.
I am currently on my 2nd playthrough ; this time with all the DLCs.
Bioware has proven to me that the DLCs really enhance the game, every title was way different with them.
So far with the addition of trials from Trespasser the game itself has elevated for me (level 10).
Half XP, level scaling and tougher enemies make this game best of this gen for me only just behind from the witcher3.
Revisiting it the second time feels FANTASTIC. I am in love!!!!
I dare say that i cannot look back to previous dragon age titles. Sure there is a not good sidequest design but reading the codex and picking the quests with an ingame inquisitor logic and not just following the quest icons in the map (the way is SHOULD be played) makes the game totaly worth it.

I just entered crestwood and this map clearly shows what DA:I would be if there was more time:
interesting sidestory, the great damn-flood-deflood situation, the dragon, the flooded caves, mayor missing and NPCs that actually react to your presence and speak. Sadly the next zones i will visit willnot be of that quality.
But still this works to its advantage as crestwood really shines!

Anyway i was wondering: whats the consensus on Da:I. now that the game is finished?
Do you love it? 
Where do you stack this game?
Is this a "bioware" game? 

Pesonally i love this game.

 

I feel the same way. Is it perfect? No, but nothing ever is. But it's much better than a lot of people say it is and it's a lot of fun to play. 

[Catilina]

All in all, I could say, like the game, except for the rocks and the map that does not show the gateway. And the gathering filler quests. Those i hate, so much.

[vbibbi]

To be fair all but two of the DAI romances were pretty bad. And one of those two not many people like, soooo...

I'll bite, which two romances were good? And which one of those do many people not like?

[Battlebloodmage]

I'll bite, which two romances were good? And which one of those do many people not like?

That sounds like a personal opinion. I don't like any of the options given to me. Personally, I like Cullen and Cassandra romance while dislike the rest. Each have their own problem. It's not reflecting anyone's opinions but my own. I personally don't like Dorian because it's generic and has been done millions of times, and I wish the first gay companion wouldn't be revolved around sexuality or have to feel bad about who he is instead of just being a part of him, Iron Bull forces BDSM relationship on you and you can't say no or anything else or else the relationship will break off, I also want a more romantic and fluffy feel instead of a more jokey type, Cassandra is overall very satisfying for me and my canon relationship but I wish they had included a marriage scene. it's annoying how all the male inquisitors can't have any marriage on-screen. I don't know much about Sera, so I can't say, but it's cool she could get married. Josephine is too ambiguous for my liking, Blackwall romance is a bit bland and the relationship is just not very in-depth in term of scenes as compared to other romances, anyway, it just wasn't to my liking, especially how he acts like a doormat all the time. Vivienne threatens to kick his ass and he just takes it. Solas is the one I have the most problem with when they gated gameplay contents and story contents behind his romance. You can only remove the mark if you romance him and information about the slave brand can only learn if you romance him. I just don't feel like it's a good way to implement a romance. It should be an optional content, and they shouldn't gated something important behind a romance At least, offer it in friendship path as well. I also have a problem with the distribution just like with ME3, but that's another topic entirely.

[AFA]

They think of them as dating sims, I suppose. Sometimes I think the main plot isn't important compare to the romances in game...

 

The romances never really bothered me, but to be honest, having hetero male options be a scarred-faced amazon in her 40s and a Disney Princess was not a  bright idea from a marketing perspective. Bioware set themselves up for the butthurt for the vocal minority on that one. And on the other side, hetero women can get race-gated unless they are running elves.

 

It is one of those odd design choices that just kind of piles up as you go along through the game.

[Derrame]

yes, it's a great game, i'm playing no with all dlc and it's awesome and doing things differently and see what happens

[Midnight Bliss]

I'll bite, which two romances were good? And which one of those do many people not like?

Cass & IB. And I think people would probably disagree with me about Bull, since outside of the ride or die bullrider fans his romance seems to be rather unpopular judging by comments on here and reddit.

 

The others.. Well,

 

Solas' was unnecessarily short and had no sex scene.

Josie's felt like something from another game, had no sex scene, and lacked content. (Banters related to your romance, the final goodbyes in trespasser which were the best romance moments in the game, IMO. Or up there with the best ones, if not the best)

Blackwall's was monopolized by the reveal and had like barely any content outside of that, plus the choice between a almost sexist and creepy sex scene or not getting to have sex at all until that terrible scene in Trespasser.

Sera's niche appearance and general weirdness. (Okay, this one I guess some people might have really dug?)

Dorian's stereotype personality, predictable forced pseudo breakup ending that most romances between gay men include.

Cullen is an NPC when he should have been a follower, lacks final goodbyes in Trespasser and has no banter at all so it ends up in a vacuum.

 

Bull and Cass, love or hate them, at least were things I've never seen before (a tough female who isn't some cheesy manish dork/female Kisa. And a BDSM relationship that isn't creepy/weird/perverted/jokeish), and both accomplished what they set out to do and accomplished it well.

[Andrew Lucas]

I never highlighted it as the major part of the disappointment but one of the disappointments while playing the game. It was a list in no particular order so get off your high horse. The thread asking for what I think about the game, so I list the parts that have affected my enjoyment that related to me and no one else.

Oh sure, for every grave flaws that DAI has, you just randomly chose the classy romance one.

K m8.

[Battlebloodmage]

Oh sure, for every grave flaws that DAI has, you just randomly chose the classy romance one.

K m8.

And, you just randomly forgot all the other stuffs I mentioned in that post and just focus on the one tiny line about the romance while the majority of the post is about something else entirely. Sound more like it has to do with you than me. 

 

K m8.

[KaiserShep]

After finishing Trespasser, I like this game a whole lot more, and I hope someone shivs Teagan.

This is easily my favorite character ensemble across the series thus far, and my favorite realization of the whole DAverse, especially since there's a greater focus on the history of magic, which I generally enjoy.

[vbibbi]

That sounds like a personal opinion. I don't like any of the options given to me. Personally, I like Cullen and Cassandra romance while dislike the rest. Each have their own problem. It's not reflecting anyone's opinions but my own. I personally don't like Dorian because it's generic and has been done millions of times, and I wish the first gay companion wouldn't be revolved around sexuality or have to feel bad about who he is instead of just being a part of him, Iron Bull forces BDSM relationship on you and you can't say no or anything else or else the relationship will break off, I also want a more romantic and fluffy feel instead of a more jokey type, Cassandra is overall very satisfying for me and my canon relationship but I wish they had included a marriage scene. it's annoying how all the male inquisitors can't have any marriage on-screen. I don't know much about Sera, so I can't say, but it's cool she could get married. Josephine is too ambiguous for my liking, Blackwall romance is a bit bland and the relationship is just not very in-depth in term of scenes as compared to other romances, anyway, it just wasn't to my liking, especially how he acts like a doormat all the time. Vivienne threatens to kick his ass and he just takes it. Solas is the one I have the most problem with when they gated gameplay contents and story contents behind his romance. You can only remove the mark if you romance him and information about the slave brand can only learn if you romance him. I just don't feel like it's a good way to implement a romance. It should be an optional content, and they shouldn't gated something important behind a romance At least, offer it in friendship path as well. I also have a problem with the distribution just like with ME3, but that's another topic entirely.

As I post below, I definitely like Cass' romance the best. And I'm a gay male.

 

I like Cullen's romance, but when stepping back from it and examining Cullen within the greater DA context, it's a little troubling. His character isn't consistent between games, so if we consider him from an overall perspective, his past behavior and actions are troubling, to say the least. From a DAI-only perspective he's fine, but I can't help but feel he's trying to whitewash his involvement in Kirkwall's Circle abuses. At best, he is guilty of gross neglect of his duties as second in command to the Templar Order there.

 

I do agree that Dorian was a bit stereotypical of a romance, so it was not my favorite. As m/m romances go, I preferred Anders or Fenris.

 

Also agree on all your points with Solas and Blackwall.

 

Cass & IB. And I think people would probably disagree with me about Bull, since outside of the ride or die bullrider fans his romance seems to be rather unpopular judging by comments on here and reddit.

 

The others.. Well,

 

Solas' was unnecessarily short and had no sex scene.

Josie's felt like something from another game, had no sex scene, and lacked content. (Banters related to your romance, the final goodbyes in trespasser which were the best romance moments in the game, IMO. Or up there with the best ones, if not the best)

Blackwall's was monopolized by the reveal and had like barely any content outside of that, plus the choice between a almost sexist and creepy sex scene or not getting to have sex at all until that terrible scene in Trespasser.

Sera's niche appearance and general weirdness. (Okay, this one I guess some people might have really dug?)

Dorian's stereotype personality, predictable forced pseudo breakup ending that most romances between gay men include.

Cullen is an NPC when he should have been a follower, lacks final goodbyes in Trespasser and has no banter at all so it ends up in a vacuum.

 

Bull and Cass, love or hate them, at least were things I've never seen before (a tough female who isn't some cheesy manish dork/female Kisa. And a BDSM relationship that isn't creepy/weird/perverted/jokeish), and both accomplished what they set out to do and accomplished it well.

Okay thanks. Interesting. I would agree that Cass is probably the most popular romance, followed by Solas, if going by these boards. And IB is one of the least popular, so it's interesting that you listed him. I guess if your qualifications are producing romances unlike previous romances in Bio games or any other video game, it makes sense. I personally don't like the lack of agency the PC has in it and that Bull dictates everything. But in a BDSM context that makes sense.

 

I think Cass is probably my favorite romance. First, because she is one of the few companions who feels plot important, similar to Alistair/Morrigan and Anders/Isabela. Not that being plot important makes a romance better than the others (Leliana was my fave DAO romance), but it helps to provide context for the romance within the story, rather than being able to separate the romance from the game and still have it function the same way. I could pull Leli and Zevran's romances from the context of the Blight and they would still work. Less so for Alistair or Morrigan.

 

Also, she is just one of the best written characters in DAI, if not the best. She is a realistic, fully rounded person, and her inner conflict with faith and duty resonates with the major themes of the game. And it's refreshing to have a devout religious person be open minded and rational about her faith rather than a bigot or dangerous zealot, which is common in games. She is one of the most "good" characters I can think of in the DA universe, and having her as a friend or lover gives my PCs hope for Thedas.

 

It would have been nice if a non-Divine Cass could have married the PC. Maybe with more development time that could have happened, but if they only had time for two romances to end in marriage, it makes sense not to include her since she has diverging outcomes.

[Obliviousmiss]

Cullen is an NPC when he should have been a follower, lacks final goodbyes in Trespasser and has no banter at all so it ends up in a vacuum.

 

 

Um.....when you romance Cullen in Trespasser, you can marry him.... that's goodbye enough for me. There's banter at the war table with the other advisers teasing him. Also, he comes along on a mission if you do "Before the Dawn" quest to the fullest. 

 

Anyway, I found it fulfilling. Sorry you didn't.